Replacement sub frame fuel tank is in the works!!!!
Just a heads up to all subframe tank owners - I had a major fuel leak. I had filled the tanks Wed night preparing for a big ride this weekend. My wife and I woke Thurs morning to a strong smell of gasoline in the house. When I went out to the garage I found a large fuel spill on the floor under the bike. If there had been a spark in the garage we would have a had a terrible fire.
I took the tank off and found the leak at the threaded fitting where the fuel line comes off the subframe tank. It looks like whatever compound was used on the threads is gasoline soluble. It was completely dissolved. I removed the fitting and wrapped it with teflon tape. No return of the leak overnight, but I'm not sure if the T-tape will hold up over the long term.
Anyways check your tanks guys. This could have been a real disaster.
Jay
I took the tank off and found the leak at the threaded fitting where the fuel line comes off the subframe tank. It looks like whatever compound was used on the threads is gasoline soluble. It was completely dissolved. I removed the fitting and wrapped it with teflon tape. No return of the leak overnight, but I'm not sure if the T-tape will hold up over the long term.
Anyways check your tanks guys. This could have been a real disaster.
Jay
WWJ said:
Wow Jay, sorry to hear that you had a problem. However, out of the 94 tanks out there and in use (except for Davo) no one else that I know of has had problems with leaks.
I've had my tank installed for about 6 weeks now no leaks anywhere.
Glad to hear that you got it sorted and are on your way.
Dale,
Give me a call when you can. We are interested in stocking a couple of the tanks. (304) 932-0437 or you can email me at [email protected]
Thanks Jamie
Give me a call when you can. We are interested in stocking a couple of the tanks. (304) 932-0437 or you can email me at [email protected]
Thanks Jamie
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In my experience teflon tape has stood up to gasoline.
Hey everyone, just another heads up on the subframe tank. I installed mine several weeks ago right before a multiday ride I had planned. The install went ok except i had some dificultly getting the top subframe support to line up. I think it is my bike though and not the subframe tank, as I had similar problems with the original. I filled it up and took it for a test drive and everything checked out. The next morning at the first break on my ride I noticed a significant fuel leak from my bike. Upon inspection it wasn't leaking from any connection point were I thought might be a problem, but it just kept on leaking. I finally traced it back to the vent hose. When I routed the vent hose down throught the airbox, it must have been touching the pipe in a spot that was not easy to see. My pipe melted a hole in the vent line and since the tank was still pretty full, fuel was in the vent line and leaking out. The pipe must not have gotten hot enough on the test ride to melt it all of the way through or the vent ine shifted. Luckly I was able to cut the line where it was melted and install the T from on top of the main tank, plug one leg of the T and run it along the air box and out the corner of the seat and it seamed to work just fine that way. Thankfully this allowed me to continue on an epic 2 day ride. So just be careful where you are routing the vent line and keep it away from the pipe. Otherwise it is a great product and it sure eases the mind to have the extra gallon on board.
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Dale and John,
I have been following the progress/development of your tank since February and realized then it would be a quality item which I and others would really want for our Bergs. On April 16th I asked our local Berg dealer if they would become a dealer for these and put in an order. I and nine other guys with Bergs were headed to Colorado from PA to enjoy the Rockies in the summer. I had until July to get my tank which I figured would be needed for the long days we expected and a perfect place to test the tank for others who would undoubtedly follow. Our dealer contacted you multiple times between April and July even going as far as getting an address in CO where you could drop ship the tank due to production delays. All that was understandable although disappointing. Colorado came and went. Many more attempts to secure the tank failed after our return from CO. I just can't figure out why you would not want a very strong contingent of avid Berg owners around Pgh to use your tank. Someone there had told our dealer that they were more than happy to have a dealer interest (months ago) and set up an open account to handle the order.
This is a copy of the dealer's most recent communication with sales at 70 Degree Racing which got no response;
We still want the tank from our April 16th order. I've been told others have their tanks, we're still wondering what's going on. I've heard that orders have #'s assigned to them, that they are prioritized with that #. I've heard that consumers orders will be filled 100% and no dealer orders will go out as long as consumers orders exist unfilled. Having said that, what's chances of a tank any time soon. Just an ETA. Thanks General Mike http://www.fivestarcycle.com
This is a copy of today's email from yet another request for the April 16th order.
Al, FYI, I'll give this one more try, today, I hate to give up, although it's long since reached a point of diminishing returns. This is the most recent communication I've been using. I'm going to wait until Monday. I'll get with you then, or you may try me anytime. Sure do appreciate your patience. TNX Gen. Mike
Is it possible to get a little help resolving this issue?
Thank you for your time and your dedication to this worthwhile project.
I have been following the progress/development of your tank since February and realized then it would be a quality item which I and others would really want for our Bergs. On April 16th I asked our local Berg dealer if they would become a dealer for these and put in an order. I and nine other guys with Bergs were headed to Colorado from PA to enjoy the Rockies in the summer. I had until July to get my tank which I figured would be needed for the long days we expected and a perfect place to test the tank for others who would undoubtedly follow. Our dealer contacted you multiple times between April and July even going as far as getting an address in CO where you could drop ship the tank due to production delays. All that was understandable although disappointing. Colorado came and went. Many more attempts to secure the tank failed after our return from CO. I just can't figure out why you would not want a very strong contingent of avid Berg owners around Pgh to use your tank. Someone there had told our dealer that they were more than happy to have a dealer interest (months ago) and set up an open account to handle the order.
This is a copy of the dealer's most recent communication with sales at 70 Degree Racing which got no response;
We still want the tank from our April 16th order. I've been told others have their tanks, we're still wondering what's going on. I've heard that orders have #'s assigned to them, that they are prioritized with that #. I've heard that consumers orders will be filled 100% and no dealer orders will go out as long as consumers orders exist unfilled. Having said that, what's chances of a tank any time soon. Just an ETA. Thanks General Mike http://www.fivestarcycle.com
This is a copy of today's email from yet another request for the April 16th order.
Al, FYI, I'll give this one more try, today, I hate to give up, although it's long since reached a point of diminishing returns. This is the most recent communication I've been using. I'm going to wait until Monday. I'll get with you then, or you may try me anytime. Sure do appreciate your patience. TNX Gen. Mike
Is it possible to get a little help resolving this issue?
Thank you for your time and your dedication to this worthwhile project.
cmsprofessor said:
To begin with, my apologies for you not getting some tanks for you and your friends. I would like to address one issue that is listed above first concerning the assigned numbers of people receiving their tanks.
Roughly 80 people pre paid for their tanks, meaning they went to our web site, to this page:
http://www.70degreeracing.com/contact.html Clicked on the buy this button for the 70 Degree racing tank, and completed the form and paid their money up front, some as far back as February, so all of those people who put money on the barrel head up front, got their tanks first. So my first suggestion is to go to this page on our web site and buy a tank.
And yes, we had many delays in producing this tank, there were a lot of technical hurdles to conquer in making the subframe fit just like the stock one, and making it function as a fuel tank. We were hoping to have the tanks ready for shipping by June at the latest but that came and went as you noted. However, the tanks are now in their second production run.
So for clarification purposes, am I replying to a dealer here or an individual? I don't know who Gen. Mike is, and I don't know who Al is either. I went to the web site you listed and I see the dealership is located in PA, but I don't know what PGH is either, so educating me on who these people are, and that acronym would be most appreciated.
Since you are having trouble getting through via email may I suggest you contact me at your earliest convenience on my cell phone @ 818-383-6035 ( I'm in the pacific time zone, please don't call me before 0900pst) so we can get this straightened out, and get you and your friends hooked up with our tanks. Or click on my alias name here at this site and use the email tag to send me an email.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Dale Covington
70 Degree Racing
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This is Al from Pittsburgh, PA and I talked with Dale last night as he drove out to meet his partner, John. I feel confident the order issue was a fluke and Dale assured me more tanks (mine also) will be in the pipeline very soon. Having done some of this kind of prototype design work myself I can say I continue to be impressed by Dale's dedication to a project spanning almost 40 weeks! Thanks again Dale for the work and the quick response to address my particular problem. I look forward to talking with John this week. I really look forward to installing the new tank.
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WWJ said:
Hi Jay sorry to hear that. I use liquid teflon on all threads and it is fully fuel resistant. It is always recommended to check for leaks after you fill the tank. If the fitting got moved during installation this might have allowed the leak to start. Thanks for your business and let us know if you need anything.
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Scout said:
Yes the oem fuel line runs fairly close to the exhaust pipe and the vent line as well. I zip tied my fuel line to the clutch line on the left side to keep the line off the engine and reduce the heat to the fuel. Once I installed the tank I ran the vent line through the same ziptie this will ensure it will notcontact the exhaust. Let me know if you would like another vent line. [email protected]
I got my first decent ride on my 2011 FE570 yesterday and discovered two things:
70 Degree racing tank now ordered!!
Greg
- The stock tank range is just 79 miles[/*:m:2v525e1o]
- The low fuel warning light doesn't work![/*:m:2v525e1o]
70 Degree racing tank now ordered!!
Greg
I have what appears to be a small leak from somewhere around the quick disconnect or possibly from the same fitting as the OP. I thought it was resolved when I disconnected then reconnected it, but possibly not. I guess I should pull the tank back off and check that fitting? My fuel range has been stellar with the new tank. I've been too busy riding and don't want to stop and pull the tank off for inspection!
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