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I am really curious here Taff,

What are you going to ride that's better?, Im' not being coy here, but hell!! I bought my berg in mid 06, it is an 05 model, when I got on it the first time after assembling it myself, i noted:

tons of power inder control, whih is a far cry from bikes I had previously ridden.

clean and (generally) simple engine, if KTM can put out what it does with a relatively simple SOHC 525, why (?) go and make things more complicated with a DOHC?? by all accounts all it has done is made an overly snappy bike with a higher c/g and tip weight.

I previously had a 2000 KX 125 (which was a far cry from a Hbg 550, but the C of G is way better on the berg than on even many small 2T's!

Look at what is in front of you, the Hbg requires some development, but crikey, whilst most are considering it as dated RE CrMo frame, SOHC, etc. but in reallity, it is still as competitive as any other isn't it?

Up to you, I'd buy another at this early stage in my Berg'hood.

friggen waterpump weep hole oil weep ***** me though!

azza
 
I think husaberg made many changes that started in 99 that where no good!!!! 1-pds not as good as the linkage 2- The '01 engine- big mistake. Go back to the '98 proven engine that is still competitive to this day.
The factory should go back to Sweden as far away from KTM as possible.
That's when they were great, when the Swedes built them.
We can see the effects of KTM today with thier bold new graphics!!
 
The "cost of character" has always been justification for having something a bit different than the mainstream...I like those other bikes and their reilability/lower cost, but not much character because even the neighbor's dog has one! If the KTM deal had not come around, we might not be talking here...we need to help keep our machines unique, not obsolete...understandable if one needs to move on, though. To heck with the specs, take her for a ride and then let's talk!
 
Azza

i haven't talked of DOHC, i doubt husaberg feel that they canm reliably get another 5-6bhp without recycling all their reliability problems! it is however, what they need just to catch up and as for getting ahead - wow!

i'm just talking about these bikes, now.

regards

Taffy
 
Taffy
That is a fairly comprehensive laundry list of short comings, and I'm sure there is more. The water pump seal has puzzled me as well. I gather that many of your comments are directed at the slow "fixing" of chronic problems or even why they went to production in the first place.
 
yes mate. look, we've all heard of ****-up companies and we'd like to think that rofors and mattighofen can get their act together but don't give them too much credit mate ok?

tyres that touch headers? come on. think how that could have happened! visualise the factory and how it made that mistake and you have to go "jeepers creepers!".

they're human and have their own share of idiots!

your cocnclusions of my assesment are about right. we are the guinnea pigs!

regards

Taffy
 
I recon the header clearance is easy, it's a result of the homogenisation with all the KTM parts, I note mr. KTM is only buying black frame paint now, so I doubt if there will be tripleclamps made for Hbg's own specs.

theres tons of niggly stuff to, like the back of the front fender rubbing on the downtube, and the tyre rubbing on said fender etc. and if Mr. KTM wasnt so tight, they'd put on the variable offset clamp that made it onto the FS-C and FS-E's and all of the Katooms, it would have been no probs.

Azza.
 
awilksch said:
I recon the header clearance is easy, it's a result of the homogenisation with all the KTM parts, I note mr. KTM is only buying black frame paint now, so I doubt if there will be tripleclamps made for Hbg's own specs.

theres tons of niggly stuff to, like the back of the front fender rubbing on the downtube, and the tyre rubbing on said fender etc. and if Mr. KTM wasnt so tight, they'd put on the variable offset clamp that made it onto the FS-C and FS-E's and all of the Katooms, it would have been no probs.

Azza.
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KTM and Husaberg don't have exactly the same triple clamps, offset is different, among a few other differences. They look the same, but when I tried to use a KTM under-bar steering stabilizer kit on my Husaberg, the differences became evident. Saying that the clearance problem is because Husaberg uses KTM parts is erroneous, because the parts are not the same.

Also, not all the KTM's got adjustable clamps, just the SX and XC line. The KTM's that sell the best, the exc's and the xcw's, still have the old cast clamps, non-adjustable 20mm offset.

My front fender does not rub against the downtube at all on my Husaberg, but it does on my KTM.
 
Ya know, Serivce honda in southern CA still makes the honda CR500, they have honda factory approval and support. and it is GREEN STICKER LEGAL!

http://www.servicehonda.com/06_500AFX.html

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Johnf3 said:
You thought Husaberg re-sale was bad...try reselling a 10K+ Open class two-stroke with engine technology from 1985 (no power valve, no plated cylinder). Talk about a polished turd.
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:lol: :lol: :roll: :roll: I am on your team with that one... are the rotax stuff from ATK more modern?

how about the 500cc 2smokes used in MOTO GP? can't you throw one of them suckers in a dirt frame?
 
Now hang on fella's...

Just because it doesn't have a power valve and cylinder coating doesn't mean diddly. I for one prefer the stone axe simplicity of the CR5 engine to the power valved KX5 and like the ability to scuff a cylinder and simply have it have bored and reuse it.

Not having a power valve to service or chew up if you spit a ring is ok with me.

In my mind these features of the CR5 make the bike more desireable not less. If you want lots of power in a very durable format there is probably not a better example out there.

If you are spending that kind of money on a bike, chances are you are going to plow alot more into it and keep it for awhile - durability and simplicity counts for something....

My 2 bits

Mark
 
risky1 said:
Johnf3 said:
You thought Husaberg re-sale was bad...try reselling a 10K+ Open class two-stroke with engine technology from 1985 (no power valve, no plated cylinder). Talk about a polished turd.
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:lol: :lol: :roll: :roll: I am on your team with that one... are the rotax stuff from ATK more modern?

how about the 500cc 2smokes used in MOTO GP? can't you throw one of them suckers in a dirt frame?
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Come on Risky, there haven't been two strokes in MotoGp for the last several years. Next year they are dropping the displacement to 800cc for the four strokes. Early testing shows them to be the fastest GP bikes yet.

Rossi, Pedrosa, Hayden and all the others are saying that the new smaller GP bikes are much easier to ride, and handle much better.

Switching back to the CR500, even in the late 80's, early 90's, when the Japanese last updated their 500cc two stroke motocrossers, the 250cc two stokes were already posting faster lap times and were much easier to ride than any 500cc two stroke. That is basically why they were left to die a slow death.

I rode a KX500 for many years until the advent of the modern, racing four stroke ala Husaberg and KTM. There is absolutely no way I would go back to one of those things, I don't care how much polished and anodized aluminum is on it.
 
chilledspode said:
Now hang on fella's...

Just because it doesn't have a power valve and cylinder coating doesn't mean diddly. I for one prefer the stone axe simplicity of the CR5 engine to the power valved KX5 and like the ability to scuff a cylinder and simply have it have bored and reuse it.

Not having a power valve to service or chew up if you spit a ring is ok with me.

In my mind these features of the CR5 make the bike more desireable not less. If you want lots of power in a very durable format there is probably not a better example out there.

If you are spending that kind of money on a bike, chances are you are going to plow alot more into it and keep it for awhile - durability and simplicity counts for something....

My 2 bits

Mark
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You're right, it counts for 10-12k. Your saying you still want an iron cylinder? I believe you would be in the minority, by far. Bottom line is that most any 250 or 450 motocross bike will eat a CR500AF on a motocross track, as far as lap times.

Now if you want to impress the guys at the campground by winning lots of dragraces with a blinged out CR500, then you're right, that's your bike.
 
Johnf3

Actually, I have never liked motocross, personally.... and for all its faults the AF500 would be a neat bike to have for a play bike that could do a lot of things albeit some of them not all that well :)

I like 2S's because I can drown em and still ride out. I tend to buy bikes and hang on to them for years so longevity of design and parts supplies becomes a factor. My 92 CR5 was an awful bike and I would never buy another like it, but the AF500 is probably an interesting bike to ride. I hope I get to try one some day.... My 300exc is more than enough bike for my middle age trail riding :)

Cheers

Mark
 
Johnf3 said:
risky1 said:
Johnf3 said:
You thought Husaberg re-sale was bad...try reselling a 10K+ Open class two-stroke with engine technology from 1985 (no power valve, no plated cylinder). Talk about a polished turd.
Click to expand...

:lol: :lol: :roll: :roll: I am on your team with that one... are the rotax stuff from ATK more modern?

how about the 500cc 2smokes used in MOTO GP? can't you throw one of them suckers in a dirt frame?
Click to expand...

Come on Risky, there haven't been two strokes in MotoGp for the last several years. Next year they are dropping the displacement to 800cc for the four strokes. Early testing shows them to be the fastest GP bikes yet.

Rossi, Pedrosa, Hayden and all the others are saying that the new smaller GP bikes are much easier to ride, and handle much better.

Switching back to the CR500, even in the late 80's, early 90's, when the Japanese last updated their 500cc two stroke motocrossers, the 250cc two stokes were already posting faster lap times and were much easier to ride than any 500cc two stroke. That is basically why they were left to die a slow death.

I rode a KX500 for many years until the advent of the modern, racing four stroke ala Husaberg and KTM. There is absolutely no way I would go back to one of those things, I don't care how much polished and anodized aluminum is on it.
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I know that they began with the 4 strokes back in 02-03 (i think) in GP, but i was just imagining what brutal beast one of those motors would be like on a nice sandy loam trail.....

don't they say it is only ten percent bike... and don't "they" say that a bigger bike makes poor riders look better then they are anyway? :oops: (refering to myself only of course)
 
chilledspode said:
Johnf3

Actually, I have never liked motocross, personally.... and for all its faults the AF500 would be a neat bike to have for a play bike that could do a lot of things albeit some of them not all that well :)

I like 2S's because I can drown em and still ride out. I tend to buy bikes and hang on to them for years so longevity of design and parts supplies becomes a factor. My 92 CR5 was an awful bike and I would never buy another like it, but the AF500 is probably an interesting bike to ride. I hope I get to try one some day.... My 300exc is more than enough bike for my middle age trail riding :)

Cheers

Mark
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It's all good. When I saw that blinged out blue-framed CR, it just struck a nerve I guess. I can't stand bling for no other point than looks. It's like whipped cream on $hit.

I guess if your bound and determined to ride a 500 two-stroke, that'd be the way to go.
 

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