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Yes, and their explanation in one of the above posts states that the starter will work in all situations...a bit scary if you ask me, however, with FI, this may be true....as long as some sort of ground doesn't come loose...although, if that were the case, it wouldn't start even with a kickstarter.bhbzx7 said:
They did alot of changes to reduce the weight, however, their claimed 109 kgs is the same as previous years????
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AJSB said:
True....I think their thought is, in extreme situations with high-heat, flooded carburation and tip overs, this is no longer an issue....no more "loading-up" so the right amount of fuel will always be on tap, even in extreme situations which in turn would allow the bike to start always...just keep your battery up-to-date and trickled??...I guess we'll find out.
I dont think the E-start only KTM is fuel injected, so the bike has many opportunities to not start within the first or second turn of the engine...
One of our demo bikes is a 2005 Sherco 4.5i (fuel injected 450). Except for us letting the battery lose charge by sitting a long time, the bike always fires with e-start...even after turning it up-side-down, or tight trail situations...the only time I've ever had to kick the bike is initial start up after it sits for 2-3 months with the bike not on a trickle charger...
It seems to me, the way bikes are heading, that we will just have to learn a new habit in dirt-biking...when you get home, plug the trickle charger in...
AJSB said:
I think the point of leaving the kick starter off is that the bike is electronically fuel injected. If your battery goes dead, having a kick starter wouldn't do you much good anyhow, as a charged battery is needed to run the FI system.
Why do people have so much trouble with this idea?
Two new pics of the engine mounted added to my gallery.
I have been promised that lots more pics will be added at fastbikes.se tonight. Click "Nyheter" (news). They also have pics of a bunch of other bikes from EICMA. Anyone want some text translated I'm your guy :wink:
I have been promised that lots more pics will be added at fastbikes.se tonight. Click "Nyheter" (news). They also have pics of a bunch of other bikes from EICMA. Anyone want some text translated I'm your guy :wink:
Jocke_D said:
While not a work of perfection like the Husaberg, this Benelli BX looks very interesting...
Wish I knew what the web page said. :wink:
http://fastbikes.se/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=256&Itemid=157
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PowerCell said:
True too
Haha, I didn't think you'd call for so soon :lol:fmoffroad said:
Well, here goes...
BX Enduro drivs av en vattenkyld stĺnka pĺ 505 kubik, konstruktionen är modern men lĺngt ifrĺn unik. Vi noterar ventiler av titan och elektronisk insprutning. Borr och slag är 104 X 59,5 millimeter och kompressionen är 11,5:1
BX Enduro is powered by a watercooled 505cc thumper with a modern but not unique design. We see titanium valves and EFI. Bore x stroke is 104 x 59.5mm with a CR of 11.5:1.
För en gĺngs skull anges även toppeffekt och maximalt vrid trots att det är frĺga om en racer. Motorn levererar hela 60,5 hästar vid 8 500 varv och 50 newton vid 5 750. En hydraulmanövrerad sjuskivig vĺtkoppling och en sexväxlad lĺda ska hjälpa till att föra kraften frĺn motorn till bakhjulet.
For once we get to know the max power and torque although we're talking about a race bike. The engine puts out a whopping 60.5hp @ 8500rpm and 50Nm @ 5750. A hydraulic operated seven disc clutch combined with a six speed box will help transfer the power from the engine to the rear wheel.
Elstart är standard liksom kick, sĺ det borde gĺ att fĺ snurr pĺ motorn i alla lägen, i varje fall sĺ länge den nio liter stora bränsletanken är fylld. BX Enduro väger 110 kilo torr.
Electric start is standard as well as a kicker, so you shouldn't't have any trouble starting the engine no matter the situation as long as the nine liter tank is filled. The BX enduro weighs 110kg dry.
BX Cross har i grunden samma motor som BX Enduro men här är borrningen 98 millimeter istället för 104 och det ger en cylindervolym av 449 kubik. Kompressionen är högre, närmare bestämt 12,5:1. Toppeffekten är imponerande 56 hästar och dessa levereras vid 9500 varv. Maximalt vridmoment är 45 newton vid 7 000.
The BX motocross basically has the same engine as the BX Enduro but the bore is 98mm instead of 104mm giving it a displacement of449cc. The CR is higher, 12.5:1 to be precise. The maximum power is an impressive 56 hp which are delivered at 9500rpm. Max torque is 45Nm @ 7000 rpm.
Istället för insprutning används förgasare i form av en Keihin FCR MX pĺ 41 millimeter. Kopplingen är likadan som pĺ BX Enduro, det innebär en hydrauliskt manövrerad sjuskivig vĺtkoppling. Andra skillnader är att BX Cross bara har kick som startsystem och att lĺdan är femväxlad. Bränsletanken rymmer nio liter precis som pĺ BX Enduro men torrvikten är tvĺ kilo lägre, mer exakt 108 kilo.
Instead of EFI the a carburetor is used in the shape of a Keihin FCR MX41. The clutch is the same as in the BX Enduro, which means a wet seven disc, hydraulic operated one. Other differences are that the BX Motocross just come with a kick start and a five speed box. The fuel tank has a nine liter capacity just as the BX enduro but the dry weight is two kg lower, more exactly 108kg.
In another article they write about the BX Sumo which has a 570cc version of the engine. This one puts out an unbelievable 67hp...
At 1000ps.net there has shown up another page of pics. Linkylinky...
PowerCell said:
What if the starter motor goes dead? Has worn its brushes? Or is broken (notice it is in the front, now)? A cable is disconnected? You fell and the start button was ripped off?
I don't see why adding a kicker option would be such a bad idea. Also one may decide to reduce the weight by replacing the battery with a smaller one and removing the starter.
cypher said:
Actually, many race cars do not have a starter... F1s have to be cranked.
We are talking about a bike is not only likely to be raced, but also fall and suffer minor damages, like a torn starter cable.
There are pros and cons in removing the kick start.
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LeFrog said:Actually, many race cars do not have a starter... F1s have to be cranked.
F1 Cars dont have kickstarters either
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