Is the site healthy?

petem said:

cypher said:

Then this talk of some form of 'them and us' between the LDC group and the oldies. WTF is this aparthaid SA or what?

who really gives a fudge what bike people are riding, ok some of the questions for the new bikes are a bit no brainers but then some of the LDC people have never had any sort of Berg before. We should be saying hello not berating them for their lack of knowledge.

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:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

The real "them and us" ought to be reserved for things like dirt bikers vs those who'd like to close down all the places we ride. Struth, if we can't even manage to stick together within a group of people who own the same make of bike, then never mind the forum, we're all doomed in general, DOOMED I TELL YOU!

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Quite right, that's why I have been a member of the Blue Ribbon Coalition for many years now and contribute monthly to their legal action fund.

My FE570 does looks fine and dandy in my garage I can't see it getting sold for anything, I just took another look and I can't get behind where you are going "piece of crud" 8O 8O . They just look the part the new LDC's.
I am keen on a 08 450 but am broke after wacking $16K on the 570. More like $17K with the added bling and Subframe Tank. It's a little bit fancy now :wink:

hey, don't take any offence to the dribble i wrote the other night davo.
i done it all with a smile on my face.
if the splitcase model bergs were better,they would be racing them in world enduro,but they are not,so they can't be.
it's as simple as that.
i still recon they have gone 3 steps forward & 1 step back, but hey... thats better than going the other way around.
hey davo, 9 of us went over fraser island 2 weeks ago for a 2 day ride,it was fantastic,plenty of riding to be done over there.the taylor is still on, so make sure you bring the surf rod.you just gotta jag the right weather, :?: but hey... it never rains in sunny queensland,does it :roll:
give those backpackers a wide berth in those landcrusier troopcarriers.
mate they are shocking, 8O they get all cross rutted & out of control all the time.
i can't bear to watch them.its a wonder more arn't killed.
well,if i would have had a ldc berg,i wouldn't have had the problem of swallowing the carby slide plate when i was right at the tip of sandy cape then would i?
lay $hit on you sometime soon ..weed..
ps...i'm going over there again next week for a working holiday for a day job,but i think i could run into some problems & be forced to drag it out to 2 days :mrgreen:
lifes tough at the top :twisted:

Hi Weed,
I had a good laugh reading your post Sunday. Especially the bit about selling a 2010 for a 2001
Just realised today you live near Fraser. Lucky Bugga!
Yeah saw a few bogged Backpackers last time I was up there. That is always a great laugh. They have just got no idea and I can’t mention what country they are from it might ark up again on UHE :lol:
We all hope one another get bogged when we are there, so we can take the piss out of the make of car (Nissan Toyota rivalry thing).
I took the beach rod last time but never caught a fish either, seen plenty of Dolphins, stingrays and fish. My other mates that are going are toying with the idea of taking the bikes but I don't think it will eventuate, it's suppose to be a family holiday, plus I think mine might get nicked out front of Seaworld on the way home
It would be good to ride with you, Berglsmerg, Steve and Bushie and the other ozzies one day but I think we all live too far away from each other. Plus I wouldn't like to get hit by a rock out the back of Bushies Tyre, reckon that might put you in a coma for a couple of years

Good luck fixing your little trolley thing with wheels.
Davo.

I'll be over in QLD about this time sometime in the next 5 years or so.

My brother makes the trip over every year and runs his hayabusa1300/cr500/rmz250 hybrid in the Kungurri hillclimb near Mackay. he reckons my bike would be perfect for the hill, I reckon Weeds would kick arse too.

I just gotta build a house and all that boring stuff first and I'll toddle on over with my brother for a run up the hill and meet you guys for a Bush ride, Frazer sounds like my cup of tea.

If the hayabusas in front Davo forget about my roost the 700 is a wee lil kitten she only sprays out bum fluff compared to the 1300 :twisted:

this is a bit off the original subject,but while i got ya bushy...
just on the subject of that chain you broke.
the local bike shop recons,the the rk 520exw is the go for anything with a bit more hp than the average.
i had trouble with the regina's,the quality of the chain seems ok,it's just that some of the links seems to go stiff.
not long after that they will break at the stiff link.i done 1 on the 500 & another on my berg.
dunno i think its the grease they use between the links or the lack of it ,& that was the top of the range $180 regina.
i changed back to a d.i.d & got a pretty good run out of it,it was on its last legs and the split link broke,but still it was better than the regina.
i remember when the regina broke it nearly hit a mate who was following me.he ducked & thought it was a branch i flicked up.
that would be nice wouldn't it, being lassooed around the neck by a flying regina 8O
i've only done about 4 months on the rk so it's still not proven yet,but its suppose to be the duck nuts,costs about $180 aust
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hey Weed

the sites healthy it seems as long as the Aussies can keep up the banter... we can take it

I just got an RK EXW from rockymountain ATV we'll see how long it lasts

Reckon you're onto it with the dry kinks, lube is good. the link that broke was dry didn't come off just happened to see it looked funny when i put a new chain slider on the s arm and noticed the carnage from where its tried to mate with the clutch slave.

I ran a 50T rear with the first chain instead the 40 that I run now so its got more tension with the 40, if it happens again I''l go to a bigger rear again.

good to know someone else can break em whoda thought it be you eh? :twisted:

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i remember when the regina broke it nearly hit a mate who was following me.he ducked & thought it was a branch i flicked up.
that would be nice wouldn't it, being lassooed around the neck by a flying regina 8O

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The chain came off the bike in front of me at a track day years ago, and for a second I thought he'd run over a snake as it wriggled along the track.

Lassooed around the neck by a flying what? Oh sorry, I see now it says REgina.

a dry broken flying one at that

Hey Petem, you should ride in Australia we have the top 9 worlds most deadliest snakes. Some of them love laying on the tracks asleep soaking up the sun. You learn to move your legs off the pegs real quick when you run them over. Some of them would probably kill you quicker than being hit by the flying REgina (I'm not touching that joke ) chain.

bushmechanic said:

I'll be over in QLD about this time sometime in the next 5 years or so.

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5 Years till the next Oz Force ride? :?

Davo said:

5 Years till the next Oz Force ride? :?

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that sucks....
Going for a micro force ride on friday, two LDC's and a 07 sikfiddy, it has been pissing down with rain at home last night so firiday morning conditions will be near to perfect, throw a chunky new konbby into the mix and there will be power wheelies all over the shop 8). If jap bikes come along is it still a force ride or turkey shoot ? :twisted:

Davo said:

Hey Petem, you should ride in Australia we have the top 9 worlds most deadliest snakes. Some of them love laying on the tracks asleep soaking up the sun.

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Ahh that's nothing. You should try trail riding here in the UK - we have ramblers who can kill you instantly from half a mile away with a single withering glance. We've developed an anti-withering-glance technique though:
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Probably wouldn't recommend trying it at close range on a snake (specially if it's an assp).

Hey Petem, you should ride in Australia we have the top 9 worlds most deadliest snakes. Some of them love laying on the tracks asleep soaking up the sun. You learn to move your legs off the pegs real quick when you run them over. Some of them would probably kill you quicker than being hit by the flying REgina (I'm not touching that joke ) chain.

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just a bit more b.s seeing we have really gone off the subject.
just on the subject of snakes,short story,
generally i've never had a problem with snakes,i just do the usual thing & wheelstand with the leg up & i get over them before they have a chance to have a strike at me.
well, a couple of months ago i really got caught out,i was out front leading one of our rides.i was coming down this mountain side,jumping a series of woo boys, i was probably only doing about 40-50 klicks @ about 3-4 ft off the ground over this one,when i was just about to land smack bang on this coastal taipan.you ever tied to put your legs up as you are about to land over a jump? phuck man i didn't know what to do 8O
it must of done the pi$$ bolt ,cause when the wildman came through it was gone.
had me a bit worried but. :roll:
usually the taipans we get around here are real brown buggers, but this one was a real reddy looking thing.
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Off topic again, ah well.

I broke the original Regina in my 501. Lubing the cahain and it looked funny, closer look, and a pin had snapped like the pic. Have heard elsewhere that the Reginas are not ductile enough, don't wear/stretch much, then just break.

+1 on the EXW RK

Off to Hattah for 4 days on the 650 in the desert in the morning :bounce3:

Steve

I'm a lurker and have been since purchasing my 2005 FS650c. Simply the most fun I've ever had on two wheels. I've checked out the UHE's amazing posts on things to look out for, improve, change, etc. To date, I've seen no forum that comes close to this one. Reminds me, I need to make another donation.

Thanks folx, now, back to lurking.

dirty perverted git!
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welcome to UHE - I think? :shock: :shock:

regards

Taffy

Actually I pretty much quit coming here once I got my bike. Not because I lost interest or anything but because the site is too big and complex to find anything. I think there's way too many categories to really be useful. Tech should be divided into "pre 09" and "post 09" since that seems to be where folks (and the bikes) divide. There's not enough activity/people to really support the breadth so you probably have a lot of folks like me who find it's not worth it. Really, do we need an entire section for wheels? It's a dirt bike - there are two kinds. Cooling system? What the heck is Rally Point?

Basically it's like we're having a small birthday party in a stadium.

I recently got a Ducati Hypermotard and there's a single thread for the Hyper on the Ducati.ms forum. It's all that's needed and I can check activity really easily. Same for ADV - there's the KTM 950 forum and it's all in one place. Categories are like folders: in the physical world they help and in the digital world folders just get in the way because we have "search". The "find new posts" and "active topics" are poor substitutes.

Anyway, that's my take on things.

Gregor

sakurama said:

I recently got a Ducati Hypermotard and there's a single thread for the Hyper on the Ducati.ms forum. It's all that's needed and I can check activity really easily.

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There's a single thread with every post ever made about the bike? How many pages does that run to?

I guess it's ok if you're tracking what's added as you go along, but it's not helpful if you want to find something (I remember one thread which ran to over 300 pages, and people would often raise again something which had already been discussed because it was just too tedious to read back through the whole lot first to see if it was there). A single forum for each bike with multiple threads would make more sense.

Searching will only help if you know what to look for which not everyone does, for example people in different countries often have a different word for the same thing. Dividing the site into categories may not be a perfect solution (I don't think there is such a thing) but at least you can narrow it down by looking in the relevant area.

Having a thread for your specific bike has other limitations if that's all you read. For example if someone has a problem with, say, the front disk brake locking on with no warning and causing a crash, and they post about it in the thread for their bike which isn't the bike you ride so you're not reading that thread. However, both bikes use the same front disk setup so it could also happen to you. Maybe someone would think to copy it to all the bike threads where that disk is fitted, but then you end up with lots of duplicated entries, each of which can head off in a different direction as people reply to it differently on each thread.

Like I said, I'm not sure there is a perfect solution, but if there is I'm not convinced that having a single thread for each bike is it. Having separate sections for pre and post '09 might be useful, depending on how it was done (I'm assuming there would still be separate categories within each, e.g. mechanical, electrical, etc). Again there would probably be things which apply to both pre and post '09. Maybe as someone suggested, having a set of flags for each topic is the best answer, so you could mark it as pre '09, post '09, electrical, mechanical, etc. and any combination to cover things which fit in more than one category. I guess that would need a fair bit of development work though.

petem said:

There's a single thread with every post ever made about the bike? How many pages does that run to?

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I think he means category, Pete.

What I might do tonight is migrate all 108,000+ forum posts into a single forum category so we can find everything more easily.

thanks,
json

I was hoping he would come back and say he meant category rather than thread, but I have seen it all done on one thread so you never know. 8O

I look forward to seeing the new "simplified" single mega-category when you're finished, json! 8)

Actually I didn't understand his point about folders/categories getting in the way - surely if you're going to rely on the search facility to find what you want it won't matter whether the results are in multiple categories or not, you'll just pick them from the results list anyway. Having multiple categories means you can browse a category you're interested in if you want to approach it that way (and often find interesting things you weren't even looking for), or use the search facility if you prefer and ignore the categories. Seems like having it split into categories works for both types of user. Hmmmm. So on second thoughts, do you think it might be best to leave the forum posts where they are?

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BTW: I find the ""View unread posts" option really useful for checking what new posts have appeared, so I don't see it as a poor substitute for anything.

petem said:

Hmmmm. So on second thoughts, do you think it might be best to leave the forum posts where they are?

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You caused me to pause and for that I thank you. Upon further reflection, I've decided, we don't need less categories. We need more. I will use KTMT as a guide:



Borrowing some category ideas from them, I've come up with some potential category additions:

• Categories:
  Post in here if you don't know how to use the forum
  Riders who are dead
  Riders who are dying
  Riders we thought were dead but are feeling much better now
  Questions asked a lot
  Questions asked a few times
  Questions nobody has thought to ask yet
  Womens forum
  Mens forum
  Forum for men that are planning to become women
  Forum for women that are planning to become men
  Forum for only certain people to be able to use, but it's probably not you
  Forum to explain the category above this one

I've got more, but to be honest, sorting the threads is proving to be somewhat difficult.