I have been told that the 08s will not be street legal but the 09s will be for sure. Too much $ to homogolate a bike that is only going to be around for one more year.
Hi guys,
I am new on the site, and I been reading many articles so far, I am working to open a Husaberg dealership in Florida, and putting together a website too, I will all let know once I finish it, I never thought that was so much work put all together..... Well my questions for the experts here is if Maxima Oils are good for Husaberg bikes and which one, this is the one my dealer offers, and until I do not pick up on sales is what I will have for a while.
Cheers,
Gus
I am new on the site, and I been reading many articles so far, I am working to open a Husaberg dealership in Florida, and putting together a website too, I will all let know once I finish it, I never thought that was so much work put all together..... Well my questions for the experts here is if Maxima Oils are good for Husaberg bikes and which one, this is the one my dealer offers, and until I do not pick up on sales is what I will have for a while.
Cheers,
Gus
Joined Jun 2004
412 Posts | 17+
australia
Ah, I recall in some markets the model was different. I heard in australian the 03 australian bike was actually a slight changed 02. everyone else got the real 03. Now I believe australia will get the 08 in december and that is late these days....but maybe it is the real 08 with the new frame, motor, etc. maybe other markets wil get an 07 and half bike....who knows. As for oil, I think just a good fully synthetic. In california or australia try and get a 15/60 so it does not strain the starter clutch when cold, but is protective when hot. I used castrol r synthetic for a long time and it was good.
berg rider since...1992 (not 82 sorry). I was just waiting for this new bike and have left the 06 and 07 in anticipation.
Remember the isde is in november do you think the racing team will go to the track with an 07.5 or the real 08. Mind you I suspect that the new motor will be much better, but I think I may be better with a kickstart and electric instead of the only electric start 08 bike??
This new bmw Joel Smets is testing looks good?
berg rider since...1992 (not 82 sorry). I was just waiting for this new bike and have left the 06 and 07 in anticipation.
Remember the isde is in november do you think the racing team will go to the track with an 07.5 or the real 08. Mind you I suspect that the new motor will be much better, but I think I may be better with a kickstart and electric instead of the only electric start 08 bike??
This new bmw Joel Smets is testing looks good?
Not Easy To Improve On Perfection
There's not much to fix or improve on the 05 and newer Husabergs except for, the SM rear tire rubbing on the exhaust, bold new graphics or a beautiful aluminum gas tank. It's fun to nitpick improvements but our bikes are basically on the top of their game from the get go.
Fuel Injection is the next big thing. Hopefully for 2009. KTM must first have their street legal party with their new bikes before Husaberg. I can't imagine any flat side pumper carb bikes like ours passing a modern and strict DOT emissions test. We can sneak in a license plate here and there but FI is just about the only way these bikes have a shot at passing the effing California/USA emissions approval process for automatic street legality and that will be the key to selling more bikes to the public.
First year fuel injection on Husaberg will be interesting. There always seems to be first model year weirdness with FI systems. New FI Husabergs from the factory will probably come with a ****** stock software map to pass emission testing and make the government happy. Usually nothing that can't be fixed with some know how, FI software and a laptop. Just a new version of removing the intake restrictor and the throttle stop screw.
Do we really want a new bike frame with the FI bikes too? Pros-Cons of our current Steel ChroMoly frames versus the new type Aluminum frames?
There's not much to fix or improve on the 05 and newer Husabergs except for, the SM rear tire rubbing on the exhaust, bold new graphics or a beautiful aluminum gas tank. It's fun to nitpick improvements but our bikes are basically on the top of their game from the get go.
Fuel Injection is the next big thing. Hopefully for 2009. KTM must first have their street legal party with their new bikes before Husaberg. I can't imagine any flat side pumper carb bikes like ours passing a modern and strict DOT emissions test. We can sneak in a license plate here and there but FI is just about the only way these bikes have a shot at passing the effing California/USA emissions approval process for automatic street legality and that will be the key to selling more bikes to the public.
First year fuel injection on Husaberg will be interesting. There always seems to be first model year weirdness with FI systems. New FI Husabergs from the factory will probably come with a ****** stock software map to pass emission testing and make the government happy. Usually nothing that can't be fixed with some know how, FI software and a laptop. Just a new version of removing the intake restrictor and the throttle stop screw.
Do we really want a new bike frame with the FI bikes too? Pros-Cons of our current Steel ChroMoly frames versus the new type Aluminum frames?
RE: Not Easy To Improve On Perfection
You bring up some good points, STG. We have had the same frame since 00 with a change in rake for 03. Yet many people say that our bike feels more like KTMs all the time, HAHHAHA, and they are the ones making the ergonomic changes. Also good point about the FI, we'll see if they can really make it work or if it'll have to be played with.
As far as the Factory team, they will run what they know, so will ride 08 model bikes in Chile. THey'll be built in August to be shipped in time for shipping. Will we see them running them in the 08 WECs, no idea. We may have some news about the after the WEC here in NA and certainly after the ISDE in CHile.
You bring up some good points, STG. We have had the same frame since 00 with a change in rake for 03. Yet many people say that our bike feels more like KTMs all the time, HAHHAHA, and they are the ones making the ergonomic changes. Also good point about the FI, we'll see if they can really make it work or if it'll have to be played with.
As far as the Factory team, they will run what they know, so will ride 08 model bikes in Chile. THey'll be built in August to be shipped in time for shipping. Will we see them running them in the 08 WECs, no idea. We may have some news about the after the WEC here in NA and certainly after the ISDE in CHile.
Both KTM and TM has new bikes coming out for 2008, neither are racing them in high profile competition (such as WEC) yet as they are not proven. I suppose there is the possibility of a support rider testing them in WEC or the ISDE, but not someone that is trying to gather team or individual points.
makes sense TM. I know that David Knight has been testing the new XC since last fall, but again, behind closed doors and not in competition.
I think the only reason you ride a prototype in competition is for marketing purposes, as BMW is doing. History has proven this can also be devastating as Cannondale can atest.
I think the only reason you ride a prototype in competition is for marketing purposes, as BMW is doing. History has proven this can also be devastating as Cannondale can atest.
I have been confirmed by Mexico Husaberg and KTM dealer that the new bike, engine, frame etc is for 2009, No changes for 08 like we all seen on the pictures, just new colours, but expect completely different bike on 09.
Is Husaberg getting a 250 model for 2009, any info? I don´t like alum frames, easy to bend and hard to weld anything on.
I am attending to ISDE and hope to post some news from there.
I am attending to ISDE and hope to post some news from there.
Joined Jun 2004
412 Posts | 17+
australia
my understandingi in no 250 for the new model. I understand the response to be that we have a 250 meaning... ktm.
I was talking to Roland at the WEC last year and he told me that KTM will not let HSB bring out a 250.
I get the impression that the 250F KTM was designed in Sweden.
I get the impression that the 250F KTM was designed in Sweden.
Joined Jun 2004
412 Posts | 17+
australia
I get the same impression. I note that the finger follower approach to valves that is on the 250 is the method for the new berg motor. I have been wondering what the new hsb motor will be like and how close to the 250 design. Do you know whether the new ktm 450 motor is the same design as the 250? I still think the H USA sticker is suggesting the USA will bet the last run of the old design and maybe with some luck other markets, with the different season etc will get the new bike. This means it will be fully tested in the real world before the USA gets it and dirt bike magazine gets as chance to find any flaws?
I will be ready by 09 for a new ride.
I like the chassis the way it is myself. For the type of riding/racing that I do it is stable at speed, yet will still cut to the inside whenever you want it to.
If memory serves......... I saw in a brochure a while back, that something to the effect of.... somewhere in a hidden shed lies a radical new motor with the intake on the front of the motor, the exhaust out the back etc....
i'm looking forward to fuel injection, and the versatility of operation that FI will bring, and hopefully street legal as well. I just hope that "they" get the off idle performance right, as it has been my experience that FI is kind of abrupt in transitioning from closed throttle to small throttle openings.
I like the chassis the way it is myself. For the type of riding/racing that I do it is stable at speed, yet will still cut to the inside whenever you want it to.
If memory serves......... I saw in a brochure a while back, that something to the effect of.... somewhere in a hidden shed lies a radical new motor with the intake on the front of the motor, the exhaust out the back etc....
i'm looking forward to fuel injection, and the versatility of operation that FI will bring, and hopefully street legal as well. I just hope that "they" get the off idle performance right, as it has been my experience that FI is kind of abrupt in transitioning from closed throttle to small throttle openings.
Joined Nov 2005
159 Posts | 0+
Moto in 09?
Has anybody herd if we will get the FC version in 09?
If Husaberg made a 350FC with a five or six speed with current technolagy it would rip!
The same bike needs only offroad valving and some weight on the flywheel and a little tweak to the ignition and you have an FE.
Who cares about a 250 when you can have a 350 in the same chassis?
I would buy one of each!
Has anybody herd if we will get the FC version in 09?
If Husaberg made a 350FC with a five or six speed with current technolagy it would rip!
The same bike needs only offroad valving and some weight on the flywheel and a little tweak to the ignition and you have an FE.
Who cares about a 250 when you can have a 350 in the same chassis?
I would buy one of each!
Joined Dec 2005
1K Posts | 0+
australia
motor cycle companies have fuel injection sorted , the injection on my GSXR 1000 is faultless.
fuel injection on dirt bikes in general should be a blessing and not a curse .
fuel injection on dirt bikes in general should be a blessing and not a curse .
Joined Jun 2004
412 Posts | 17+
australia
Joined Jun 2005
449 Posts | 1+
Kings Farth
What other brand is as mythical? No other are as mad and capable at the same time and still alive.
Scott, rumor says that hbg DID develop a 250. And that it was so superior to the new ktm 250 it was not allowed to live.
The other rumor is about another new larger motor, displacement uncertain but conceptualized as a ducati v2 but with the upper cylinder removed to make a more horizontal cylinder single or like a speedway motor to lower the center of gravity.
(or Suzuki K50!)
Scott, rumor says that hbg DID develop a 250. And that it was so superior to the new ktm 250 it was not allowed to live.
The other rumor is about another new larger motor, displacement uncertain but conceptualized as a ducati v2 but with the upper cylinder removed to make a more horizontal cylinder single or like a speedway motor to lower the center of gravity.
(or Suzuki K50!)
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