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Davo said:
That Black Box that houses the 2 x Yellow 20Amp Fuses is the Starter Relay.
If it is clicking when you hit the Starter Button it is a good sign.
There are 2 main big Terminals on it marked "B" and "M".
The "B" Should measure 12Volts all the time, it is from the Battery.
The "M" Should measure 12Volts when you hit the Starter Button. Try that and see what you find. If there is no 12V the problem is towards the Battery. If there is 12V on "M" the problem is towards the Starter Motor.

Check the Earth lead from the Battery too.

Check the Battery Terminals are not loose. Seem to have remembered reading that a few times on here.
Davo,

I wish I read your thread a few minutes earlier. I thought I would disconnect the negative battery lead to ensure the electronics reboot and ....waalllaaaaaa!!! It was VERY loose! I tightened it up and now it works like a bought one.

Now I will be brave and reconnect the map switch.

Thanx
 
No worries Fizz, Try 2 x Jim Beams and Coke before selecting Aggressive on the MAP Switch. It knocks the edge off the bike a bit and makes it feel a bit more suttle to ride :wink:
 
Davo said:
No worries Fizz, Try 2 x Jim Beams and Coke before selecting Aggressive on the MAP Switch. It knocks the edge off the bike a bit and makes it feel a bit more suttle to ride :wink:
You mean subtle like a flying mallet wrapped in a lemon-soaked paper napkin? :mrgreen:

I thought I'd wait until I get to the first 15hour oil change before I try the aggressive map on my 450 as you're supposed to keep it down to 75% throttle till then and I don't want to get carried away. I have to say though I'm hugely impressed with the engine even now. There's only one really big hill we get to do as most of the trails around here are fairly flat, but my old Husky 450 wouldn't get up it in second without a *lot* of clutch slip as it would just keep slowing down to a standstill, so I always ended up doing it in first and putting up with some wheelspin (it's a very loose surface with some small rocks and roots thrown in for good measure). Tried the FE in 1st and it spun most of the way but got there. By the next time we did it I'd realised just how much the FE will pull at low revs, so I stuck it in 2nd and it romped up with hardly any spin - the only problem was getting my weight forward enough to keep the front end down. Also found out now I can lift the front wheel on demand anywhere even while standing, which was often a struggle on the Husky. Yet it has real smooth control when you're gentle on the throttle so it's easy to ride when the going gets tricky - what a great motor! :bounce3:

Think I might take your advice on the Jim Beams before trying the aggressive setting though...
 
I put a power cable on the bike for connecting to my GPS and battery recharger. My GPS sucks the juice out of 2 AAA batteries in only a few hrs.
http://www.bluerim.com.au/powerlet/pkt- ... wg-24.html

I noticed also that the +ve battery connection was also (as well as -ve connection posted earlier) only finger tight. This could have left m stranded in serious trouble if I didnt see this in the comfort of my garage. :evil:

How good is the stator on these bikes ie electric grips etc etc gonna be OK?

Also put fork air bleeders on for 1 push air release.
 
fizz said:
I put a power cable on the bike for connecting to my GPS and battery recharger. My GPS sucks the juice out of 2 AAA batteries in only a few hrs.
http://www.bluerim.com.au/powerlet/pkt- ... wg-24.html

I noticed also that the +ve battery connection was also (as well as -ve connection posted earlier) only finger tight. This could have left m stranded in serious trouble if I didnt see this in the comfort of my garage. :evil:

How good is the stator on these bikes ie electric grips etc etc gonna be OK?

Also put fork air bleeders on for 1 push air release.

Just a thought.............

If you hook your gps up to one of the feeds from the fuse box then the unit will run on bike power when the motor is on. When the motor shuts off the power relay drops out and then the feed would, I imagine, go to the batteries. I don't know if this is a desirable solution for you but, it would keep you from discharging the battery if you inadvertently left your GPS on with the bike off.

The stator is rated at 210 watts, somewhere UHE member DAVO did a power consumption draw for all systems on the bike. Look up DAVO and all of his posts, then you can calculate how much power is left over.

Dale
 
At my last hare scramble which was this past Sunday, my 2nd on my new '09 FE450, after they played the National Anthem and when it's done everyone fires up their bikes to get them warmed up just before they start calling off the rows, I hit the E-start and NOTHING. I pressed it multiple times, rocked the bike back and forth, nothing, nada, zilch, zero - crap, my race is over before it even starts, I just drove 4 hours to line up at the start, then load up and head back home another 4 hours. :evil: Thinking I better solve this quick before the flag drops, I pulled the quick release seat pull - thank god for for that, no tools required - and did a quick once-over. I basically just jiggled the electrics in there, tried the E-start again, and it fired! I didn't really have time to diagnose any further, as long as it's working that's good enough for now. I put the seat back on, let it warm up a bit, and about 2 minutes later they were calling my row. Fortunately, the bike fired up at the dead engine start and generated no further drama during the race.

After I got home, I checked and sure enough both battery terminals were loose, but not sloppy loose. I hope that was the problem, it was definitely not a good feeling being on the start line, the seconds counting down and my bike unable to turn over or even click to show even meager signs of life.
 
Got around to checking my battery terminals today, and they were both loose. Not loose enough for the cable tags to move yet, but well on the way. Of course you don't want to tighten them up too much, but definitely a bit more than they were.

I wonder how many people have had problems because of these terminals being loose on their new bikes? At least thanks to this site there will be a few less than there would have been!
:cheers:
 
I have seen similar posts in the past of loose battery terminals on the LDC's on UHE.
 
Dont know if the vendor filled petrol to the top of the tank when I got the bike but here are some details of first tank of fuel:

Reserve light came on for the first time at 92kms. Filled up at 93kms and took 6.3 litres fuel, so this is 14.76km/litre. So range is 14.76km/Litre*8.5Litre tank = 125kms total. This was just riding around side streets trying to get to the second 3 hr break-in oil change, so assume twin\single track is gonna get much worse fuel economy; guess 100kms max on a tank single track and dual sporting?

Regards
Fizz
 
Done about 20 hours on my 450 and so far I keep getting mileage that would give me about 100 miles (160 km) to dry on a full tank doing a mixture of on and off road. The first tank was on quite a slow ride but the other ones have been quicker and the mileage actually improved. Even then though it was trail riding, not too technical and not full throttle for very much of the time so it's quite possible I'd only get 80 km too if I was tearing along!
 
I do like to keep the air flow thru the radiators, also I am a bit thin on top and like the feel of wind through my hair so I need a lot of wind !
 
Some more observations.

I have observed that the B&B Offroad pipe heat shield (http://www.bboffroad.com.au/450_570_2009+.htm) gets damn hot - I don't think it shields heat at all :angry: .

Those people that have the carbon fibre bling heat shield, how hot does it get?

I put on the B&B case saver and it is very well made, as is their bashplate and rear brake reservoir protector. :cheers:

I put on the 52 tooth rear sprocket today and new longer chain - had to remove 1 link from the chain first.

Regards
Fizz
 
berglsmerg said:
I do like to keep the air flow thru the radiators, also I am a bit thin on top and like the feel of wind through my hair so I need a lot of wind !
Honest officer, I needed to go that fast to keep air flowing through the radiators/my hair. And having the front wheel up that high is a special technique to channel the air effectively. :roll:
 
fizz said:
Those people that have the carbon fibre bling heat shield, how hot does it get?
Only tried it once briefly not long after I got the bike and it was hot to the touch but I'm sure not as hot as the pipe would have been! No signs yet of my over-the-boot pants melting on it anyway, and I'd think they're quite close to it when I'm sitting.
 
In the box of parts I got with the bike, there is a hollow round metal disk (the size of an Australian 20 cent piece) that is covered in perforated holes over its surface on both sides.

What is this thing? :roll:

Regards
Fizz
 
Just had a look in my box of bits that came with the bike and I can't see anything like that so either I didn't get one or it's already fitted to the bike somewhere. So now I'm curious to know what it is too - any chance of a picture?
 
petem said:
Just had a look in my box of bits that came with the bike and I can't see anything like that so either I didn't get one or it's already fitted to the bike somewhere. So now I'm curious to know what it is too - any chance of a picture?


Here are the back\front pictures of the mysterious disc in the box; what is it?

disk1of2.jpg

disk2of2.jpg


Regards
Fizz
 
Haven't seen one of those before. Maybe it goes in the exhaust somehow as an optional spark arrestor? (Just guessing wildly now!) Either that or it's for your bath, to stop things going down the plughole.
 

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