incredible or unbelievable deal?

RE: incredible or unbelievable

Got this from KTM today,Sounds like its been sent to everyone,One of those "Incase someone asks snd them this" reply

"Dear Mr Sale

Thank you for your email and your feedback. We are currently preparing our dealer network for the brand new 2009 models and this has unfortunately meant that the dealer network has temporarily been reduced from 6 to 3 dealers. I do not think it is appropriate to go in to the reasons why specific dealers have been terminated but I can assure you that these decisions have not been taken lightly. I can also assure you that Husaberg is an important part of the KTM business and we are fully committed to a positive future with Husaberg in the UK.

Thank you once again for your feedback.

Yours sincerely

Shaun "

In other words;

Mr Husaberg dealer. You were good enough to sell 2007/8 models but I regret to inform you that you are not good enough to sell our super whoopee wiz bang 2009 model. I am sure you understand. BTW you can keep and sell all the old parts you have in stock. No need to return them as our restocking fee just went up. We thank you for previous support but now please move out of the way.

I have known gary for a good number of years more than i care to remember.

I don't know anyone so enthusiastic, commited to the Husaberg product.
This is just another kick in the balls for Husaberg dealers who aren't lucky enough to have big posh clockwork orange bike show rooms/shops.

I know one Bubble its D.C.R.!!!

Regards the Big Posh Clockwork Orange Showrooms, the "Orange" dealers have to pay for the showrooms and all the "Orange" goodies inside!!



Brookester

Had an reply to my email to hubert Trunkenpolz Re the uk goings on.

i wont be posting the email but essentially, as we've already worked out, they wanted to start from scratch with the new bike not just ushering in a new model but a relaunch of the Husaberg brand, and it was felt that to meets the standards they want and have the ability to expand in the future the cuts that were made were required.

lets hope they've got it right.

Brookester.

:lol:

Yeah they might have to pay for there big posh showrooms and all there clockwork orange goodies inside, but your not telling me they don't do it off there own back without the help of KTM.

But as someone else has already said on this forum " Dear Mr Husaberg dealer thank you for all your help for promoting our product for the last few years and selling our bikes but your not posh enough to sell our new super whizz bang 09 bikes."

It just seems a bit under hand to drop smaller dealers like GGR just because KTM feel there not good enough.

gary is my dealer and i can't say enough kind words for him. he is very helpful, service is good and always has an anecdote for the parts you're buying.

but gary would perhaps say something of the following:

"i couldn't grow with DCR as the importer, used to put a deposit down and never see the bikes. no point in holding new stock because DCR was selling them cheaper than i could buy them. so i didn't sell used except off my p/ex and as for new, well only when i took an order."

it's a bit like playing musical chairs as a kid, nobody wants to move....

gary then decides he needs to make his living, so he takes husqvarna and sheco dealership. like SR offroad and others he finds he still has loyal following of husey owners but the problem is DCR, DCR, DCR.

he then decides to go for it and moves from a small rural unit into the middle of newbury and suddenly people who don't require a specialist machine come in for a spark plug.

it's profitable. that's all you have to say. it's profitable. so he follows the money...... husey's are now an even smaller part of his business.

suddenly he gets less than a weeks notice "you're going to have dealernet service for your parts and BTW DCR is no longer the importer - KTM are!

this is the summer of 2007.

so when the phuq in hell in all this was he supposed to be shifting husabergs? he couldn't? he'd been forced into another line of business!

so when the factory check his numbers they think he only wants to be a bit player and that isn't what they are looking for!

WRONG!!!

gary would like to develop his husaberg business 'organically' and without being undermined by somebody who has got the sack for undercutting everyone with cheap imports from holland. right to the end gary's business has been undermined by someone who on the one hand 'busts his balls' and on the other pulls the cork out the bottom of HIS OWN BOAT!

the sad truth is that it has done for all of them this way and nobody is the winner. it's like 'who invited DCR to spend 10s of thousands on racing et without an advertising campaign to take advantage of christian iddon and pastrani (sp?) etc winning?

if you race with the big boys you should at least have a decent showroom? especially in preston where, well, you know, well.....let's leave preston out of this but you get my drift!

as has been said before....heart o gold at DCR but really - business wise.....you have to question some of the things that happened.

regards

Taffy

Bubble i agree it is under hand to drop the smaller dealers but its fook all to do with the KTM dealers its KTM-Sportmotorcycles AG to blame!!

I hate to say it but Taffy made good points in the last post :crazy:

Lets hope KTM are making the right choices with the 09 Husaberg dealers, at the moment at most of the H and H`s or Enduro`s i race its a sea of "ORANGE" in the pits, it would be nice to see some Yellow and Blue mixed in there!!



Brookester

brookster, i never said it was ktm dealers - i just said ktm and yes i meant ktm mattighofen.

since the above i have spoken GG so first of all the above will remain un-edited and is MHO of things. he's very busy and still holds 15K worth of spares which won't match DCR but is a lot!

in the late 70s abd early eighties two or three companies set up importing ducati/guzzi/laverda etc spares. they became huge. bernie's spares 'n repairs became spares gb, newton equipment were in leytonestone high road but the biggest of the lot was moto cinelli which was run by hoss elm. hoss is an iraqi with arab connections. when coburn and hughes stopped importing the guzzi's and duke's there was a 4-way importership.

sports m/cycles, moto cinelli, italsport and another one. in the end hoss took it on using dosh from his arab connections. he sold out to ducati and made MINT!!!!!!

fact is as parallel importers you can do very nicely indeed, you can sell non-franchised gear and do anything you want for an even bigger profit!

i see a bright future for DCR and GGR if they want it.....

sorry to be double handed with DCR but then he is exactly that - the reason we're here and the reason we're here!

regards

Taffy

So will the KTM dealers be carrying the 2009
Bergs?

This is all kind of confusing..

Marky_Mark said:

So will the KTM dealers be carrying the 2009
Bergs?

This is all kind of confusing..

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we dont know.

trevor pope, who is a ktm dealer down south has taken on bergs.
midwest racing is still doing them
thinks theres 1 other.
then ktm uk are looking at appointing a couple more dealers. who they might be we don 't know, but i am not expecting to see ktm dealers in general stocking up on bergs

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So will the KTM dealers be carrying the 2009
Bergs?

This is all kind of confusing..

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the way you put it mark - it's very easy to answer. NO.

clearly the husaberg dealership will be offered out but then that has always been on the table. most dealers would rather die than go yellow.

i'm thinking lexus/toyota and mini/bmw....

regards

Taffy

Where's the ownership?

If all you can get is a three year agreement from KTM to sell Husaberg's is any dealer going to invest very much in the brand anyway?

I am not sure of the legal difference but I believe car dealerships and fast food restrauants and such are franchises that are owned and can be bought and sold. If you own the franchise then you are apt to invest in it in order to increase your return, day to day and also when you ultimately sell the franchise. The way I see it there is no incentive to invest in the Husaberg brand as you are only renting the right to sell the bikes for a very short period of time. If KTM truly wants to grow the brand then you must give the dealer an incentive to make a substantial investment and that will only come though ownership.

Perhaps if KTM were to start selling Husaberg franchises instead of freely handing out selling agreements the brand will start to gain some traction.

This problem of non-ownership may prove difficult for KTM as they seem to believe it will be easy to acquire new mega-dealers due to the 2009 model. KTM may be in for a rude awakening as these astute business people may just require a fractional ownership in Husaberg (a franchise) before they invest a dime. Then what?

When Ktm were first rumoured to be taking over the Husaberg network...
I spoke to the local KTM dealer near here. He told me that there was no chance of Husaberg machines being in any of the KTM shops/dealerships, but they would supply any spares etc! So who is going to sell them now? KTM know they are just not telling anyone!!!

RE: incredible or unbelievable

I'm new here, so forgive me if I upset you.
I cannot see the problem in selling 08 bikes off cheap, and giving a full years notice that the 09's are a completely different animal.You want the latest and greatest? Wait till 09. You want a bargain? Buy an 08. And as for Trevor pope? Probably the best ran KTM dealer in the country. Trust me on one thing, he will do this right. Unlike the last incumbent.

Well said mushcat,first sensible constructive post ive seen on here.
Popes are a hardcore dealer who dont just stock "clockwork orange goodies"
but,cranks,gears cylinders & all the little messy bits.
Spoke to them today & their first parts stock order has already arrived.
This should be the kick up the arse husaberg needed to move forward & grow.
but what do i know.

owner of a nice new shiney 08.

trio. think you kinda missed the point.

personnally im not particlarly botherd about them selling the bikes off and i dont think it will defakate the used market as the berg brand at the moment doesn't hold its price much anyway.

what is my concern is that ktm uk took the action of dismissing half the dealer network without so much of a press release to its customers.

the other issue is, if you keep your bike for a few years, like some people do, where you going to take it for parts and work to be done.

ktm uk are looking to relaunch the brand with the new bike so i cannot see any newly appointed dealers carrying much stock for the pre '09 bikes. Also where you going to part ex your older bike or have work done on it. i already know of some reputable non-Husaberg dealers who wont touch them with a barge pole and thats just to work on them never mind part exing them.

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mushcat said:

I'm new here

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Clearyl :wink:

mushcat said:

I cannot see the problem in selling 08 bikes off cheap, and giving a full years notice that the 09's are a completely different animal.

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Good for you! Somehow I doubt, however, that you'd be willing to put your money where your mouth is on that one. :wink:

mushcat said:

And as for Trevor pope? Probably the best ran KTM dealer in the country. Trust me on one thing, he will do this right. Unlike the last incumbent.

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And who are you exactly? 1 post and hiding behind a username, why should we trust you for toffie?

I don't think you've understood to point either. Nobody has an issue with Pope, nobody knows him when it comes to Husaberg, do they? The issue is in the handling of the situation by KTM.

Oh, I'm sorry, if I upset you, but why should we listen to a word you have to say? :wink:

All the best,
Simon

TRIO said:

Well said mushcat,first sensible constructive post ive seen on here.

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do i smell a conspiracy here or are each of them unlucky enough to fart at the same time??

mmmmmm?

agree 100% with both fraser and simon. you're on the money lads.....

regards

Taffy

Not quite as welcoming as the KTM forum on here is it? For your info I have an 08 650 enduro on the way from Trevor Pope, thought I'd give a Berg a go after 3 KTM's from him.
If it was full money I wouldn't have bought it.
Do I need to give my name rank and number before posting?