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08 Bergs ?

RE: I intend to!

To each their own Mark.

Admittedly, I am biased. I rode bergs out of choice because they work better for my intended use.

Joakim rides a 450 in the junior class where you can any bike you like. Jacob Stapleton rides a TM 125. Bjorne rides the 496 in the E3 class.
 
Re: I intend to!

mark550fc said:
... I am not all over the place but have over 130 races on Husabergs and my opinion has been earned. People that do not push a bike to its limits once in a while just have a less accurate opinion.
How could they possibly know if they dont?
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I'm not getting your overall point in this thread. Perhaps you've earned your opinion, but what I've seen is a guy who also touts his college degree but can't seem to handle basic spelling and sentence structure. I'm not picking on your spelling, but on the other hand it does make me wonder how you apply whatever you've learned from all your experience.

You say you love your Husaberg, but the only specifics you discuss, whether perception or fact, are negative. That's fine of course, especially since the market offers lots of other choices. Let's say for the sake of discussion that you're correct about the limited future of Husaberg. I still don't see any salient point in your posts, because I can see only two legitimate concerns and you've not even hinted at either of them. One concern would be about parts availability for your supposedly beloved FC550, and the other might be the value of KTM stock.

Here's the bottom line... I think your naysaying about Husaberg's future is wrong. But even if you're right, why do you care so much?
 
Re: Now its 09?

mark550fc said:
The 550 has much more of a top heavy feel than a modern 450 because it is! .
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this is just a silly thing to say. have you ridden a wr450 lately? or ktm525? these are considered class leading bikes and both are considerably more sluggish feeling (and slower feeling) than a 550 to me.

and who really cares about power anyway? it's 95% irrelevant to offroad racing. some of the fastest guys are on 250 2-strokes and even 250 4-strokes. more power would definitely not make me any faster. probably make me slower. probably make you slower too.
 
Re: I intend to!

Satex said:
mark550fc said:
... I am not all over the place but have over 130 races on Husabergs and my opinion has been earned. People that do not push a bike to its limits once in a while just have a less accurate opinion.
How could they possibly know if they dont?
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I'm not getting your overall point in this thread. Perhaps you've earned your opinion, but what I've seen is a guy who also touts his college degree but can't seem to handle basic spelling and sentence structure. I'm not picking on your spelling, but on the other hand it does make me wonder how you apply whatever you've learned from all your experience.

You say you love your Husaberg, but the only specifics you discuss, whether perception or fact, are negative. That's fine of course, especially since the market offers lots of other choices. Let's say for the sake of discussion that you're correct about the limited future of Husaberg. I still don't see any salient point in your posts, because I can see only two legitimate concerns and you've not even hinted at either of them. One concern would be about parts availability for your supposedly beloved FC550, and the other might be the value of KTM stock.

Here's the bottom line... I think your naysaying about Husaberg's future is wrong. But even if you're right, why do you care so much?
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Satex,
He's slamming me personally there, which is fine. Never met the dude nor has he seen me ride, so I'm not sure how he passed judgement there. Maybe whoever gave him those wacked dyno numbers gave him a scouting report on my riding ability. :D
 
You do not make a veracious argument Mark. Your arguments are made with sweeping generalities and no published facts. You are surrounded here by a wealth of competition experience, from ISDE levels on down. I would not presume to "school" the folks here given your "vast" off-road experience. And telling them they are blinded by "brand loyalty" is just silly. And the icing on the cake, saying that you have "earned" your opinion? Are you kidding me?

When expressing views in a public forum you better have your facts straight, if not somebody is going to call you on it.

If you are unhappy with your Husaberg get a honda.
 
Ya John that's right I saw you in Moab training wheels on your Berg..... I know who you were riding with, I know first hand you got skillzzz buddy!

Ron
 
ok so i know its not right to jump in here BUT......

i hate all of you with 00 and newer bergs cuz i dont have one!!!

mark550fc seriously dude if you dont like your bike ill take it.....i dont have alot of money but id gladly sell my left nut to own a new one...help a brother out man!!!!
 
Resale Value?

What does the buying consumer say?
Lets see you might get 3k for an 06 Fe 450 if your lucky? (People know the bike is slow)
John: Your an *** for sure because you turned this thread into an argument as you have done in the past. The facts are the facts about the FC 450 AND THAT WAS THE FOCUS OF THE THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You started talking about FE 450 and 550s and making it personal. I have an opinion like anybody else and am entitled to it. Funny thing the guy that has a new 06 Fe 450 said the the same dam things about his bike.

Why do you think they even made the Fc 470? Well let me inform you on why they did it!
Husaberg did this because this was the only way they could make it close to a Jap 450.
Even at that it still got waxed. Hell Husaberg knows this why dont you with your great riding skills?

One of the best over 40 experts in the US named Ed Mc Coy stated the FC 450 was a dog as well. He rode the FC 550 and could never get close to the level he did on his Yam 450. He would almost always finish 1st on his Yam consistantly. After he went with the Bergs it never happened again. (moto)

I was at the Cycle News test of the big four strokes and the best the Berg 550 ever got was 5th down the start. This was with multiple riders and trys against 450s and some bigger bikes. What do you think would have happened if they sent the Fc 450? Husaberg new it would be a major discrace.(so they never sent a 450)

Why cant you just bring up facts about the 08 bikes?
Because there are none---ok we will get new stickers-------------Wow!
Some people ride Moto and offroad and would like to see a Berg that can compete what is so wrong about that?
 
Re: Resale Value?

mark550fc said:
ridding skills?
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riding.

The lambs cry when you don't use spellcheck.

I love your commentary and hope to read much more of it in the very near future.

thanks,
json
 
Husababy

Facts: Husabeg FC 450 are not competitive and every test agreed!
Fact: FC models have been discontinued due to this fact!
Fact: Nobody in the US has won a major Moto race on one!
What facts are you calling me on in a public forum?
Ask Mr Lineweaver what he thinks about the FC 450 and see what he says?
Fact: Cycle News has a four stroke shoot out and Husaberg sends the 550 only and it still got 5th place in most areas tested.
Fact: Husaberg was ashamed to send the FC 450 for obvious reasons.
:D
 
Once again the humor factor is high, which I enjoy immensly ( I can't spell for schit either and I refuse to use spell check) Why don't you give up on Husaberg ? They obviously suck ,you are a far better rider and tester than anyone here. Just sell the thing for the mere pennies you can get for it ,or better yet burn it in the garage and file an insurance claim. Then you could buy your beloved 450R or better yet get the KX450 since it's got the most power and you obviouly need it to further your pro riding career. Thus leaving us to wallow in our mediocrity and denile, besides we have JWilly to keep us laughing instead of crying in our beer.
 
Hey, am I mistaken or didn't Mike Young win some Four Stroke MX Championship thingie?
And I do believe that here in the states... :D
 
Wow, talk about a thread gone awry. The dude is asking for info on the '08s hoping that Hbg will again produce a great 4t mx bike. My personal feeling is that it will cost too much $$$ for Hbg to design a dohc 450 mx bike that is competative. They make great enduro bikes and that is a safe place to spend R&D $$$.
I agree that the Japanese make some great bikes, especially the 4T's (they haul butt!). For those of you that have not ridden a Jap 4T, you owe it to yourself to do so. For me the cost of setting one up for the woods is just too much $$$. Honda makes a great 450 mx bike (as does Kawi) that would be an amazing woods bike if you had the bucks. Kawi makes a 250f that is to die for, but cost $$$ to maintain. All Yami 4Ts are great as well. Additionally, whereas 10 yrs ago the euro mfgs had an advantage using euro suspension components, the Japanese machinery has the upper hand now in performance (durability is still quite suspect though).

All that being said, I ride woods and I chose a Hbg as my "ultimate" machine (I think that for about $12,000 (making it woods civilized) I could make a crf450r that keeps my 'berg honest).
 
Thanks!

This guy can read and give accolades to the other brands. (a mature man!)
I love my FC 550 once again and only want to see a new design as this one is about seven years old.(tank mainly to fat was my beef) Mike Young did not win that on a 450 as I recall?
I believe that was a pumped 501 that was ready to explode at any moment, sacrificing reliability to win. (not positive on that one?) I appreciate a man that can read my comments and not turn it into a shooting match. I am moving on with this thread as some just want to get personal and argue. I hope we all get what we want in the end.
Good Luck guys! :roll:
 
RE: Thanks!

Well, what have we learned? That we have a total of two smart posters on the site; the original poster, and the one who can understand him.

:(.. I was banking on three.

thanks,
json
 
Re: Thanks!

mark550fc said:
I love my FC 550 once again and only want to see a new design as this one is about seven years old.(tank mainly to fat was my beef) Mike Young did not win that on a 450 as I recall?
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Mark, note that I use the 1.7 gal aluminum tank, it is very thin.
 
Mark
I understand that this is your opinion however you got your fact and figures off
since 1989 Husaberg has 19 world champion titles now that is in 18 years I don't think
that is bad it is outstanding,and most of them came out of factory thats no bigger than modern strip mall, but if husaberg is such bad bike these people from Sweden must of been the best talent scouts that I have ever seen, you have to win to get those world titles, Husaberg had more riders in last years WEC than mighty Yamaha ?
did you read last month dirt bike those dyno figures don't reflect your claimed 10-12hp
down on power, Husaberg had more power than Honda and Yamaha and thats not counting weight to hp ratio, if your are looking for magazine to to be unbiased source
for your comments look who has biggest ads in the magazine, the old saying "don't bite the hand that feeds you" comes to my mind, 2003 was the last year for the factory
motocross team so the FC model where not very current and only a reflection of past years development, if Husaberg engine is so dated why then is some of the design
features of the current husaberg engine show up in the new KTM 450 motocross
engine, why did KTM start to use casted swingarm, why did KTM increase leverage
ratio so it more close to Husaberg leverage ratio, sorry I don't see Husaberg as dated
talk about late to the dance where is that Suzuki 450 enduro I know the kawasaki has
been sighted but very few has seen one, and that makes Husaberg dated, how many
years did it take for Japanese make a enduro bike ?

VIKING
 
RE: Re: Thanks!

Mr. Schwim - I'm willing to let members openly voice their opinions, as long as they keep it civil. However, if you don't get a solid grip on your sarcasm, I will be forced to lock this thread once and for all... YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!
 
RE: Re: Thanks!

And there's our third smart poster.

Feeling better already.

thanks,
json
 

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