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Timing Chain

Parsko

Parsko

Joined Mar 2003
582 Posts | 2+
Waterbury, Connecticut, USA
Hey Taffy,

How'd it go with the slotted cam sprocket? What kind of results did you find?

Also, I searched but could not find... I remember reading, possilby before the UHE server meltdown, that one could order a chain from any old industrial supplier. I can't find the right size though. I was doing a bit of leg work for the clan, knowing that I need replacing of mine soon as well. I remember reading the specs on here...

Any thoughts?

-Parsko

PS-Cryogenincally treating things. This is the process that is essentially the reverse of heat treating, right? One would cool in a liquid nitrogen bath, then slowly bring temp to room temp... Am I correct?
 
Parkso and Cryo

Parkso, I saw your PS on the post to TAFFY and wanted to comment. Cryogenic treatment in the field of metallurgy consists mostly of "tempering" operations that are intended to fully transform a hard material to an even harder condition. It does NOT undo a higher temperature heat treatment, (therefore not the "opposite" of heat treating). Hope that answers some of your questions. As far as the timing chain goes, I just recently read a post from someone who listed the chains and their sources, so it's here somewhere, (or on Thumpertalk). Best regards, BD
 
Cam chain --- 200.045.04 --- 110038PITCH:REN63 --- £0.14

from my info sheet. hope it means something-i think it should. the slotted camwheel was done and works perfectly. i have to say that dale's cam timing figures didn't stack up with 1mm of lift but were spot on for 'moment the dial guage moves'. i think the less said there the better.

however slotting the camwheel turned out to be a must as i had to move the timing gear on the crank one way, the camwheel the other (by a tooth) and sort the rest with the slotted camwheel.

at least i have the experience now for us all to fall back on when the next bloke tries the job.

Taffy
 
Hi Taffy, Dale & Co
After reading my eyes in a blur I came about this old post so I thought I give it live again!!

After I did my valves in TDC position I seemed to have a problem with the exhaust clearance. The clearance got too big, and valve noise went up as well. So I decided to open up the top and see what was going on there. What I saw is the cam is off by half tooth of the 90 degree described in the workshop manual and therefore making the internal de-comp too close to TDC and affecting my valve check. I did screwdriver in the sparkplug to confirm TDC markings on flywheel and crankcase. Pushed a rod in the timing chain tensioner a got three clicks there and cam sprocket and chain are looking ok. But there must be some ware in the chain or chain guides to affect his.

As I do not have any easy access for spares here in Dubai (Current dealer has given up!) I thought I would make an oval hole in the cam sprocket as mentioned in this post to time in the camshaft correct. I seem to be sure that you can only compensate half tooth on post 2000 models via gear settings at the clutch.

I just though I’d post this before I go ahead and see if any advice from you guys.

Best regards
Thor
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HB FE600 98
HD FB1340 96
KW ZX10 89
 

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well it'll be a piss of piss for you with an alloy sprocket. A DODDLE/A WALK IN THE PARK!

my only quick advice is to take out the cam and as you file away - keep putting the sprocket on the cam. if you aren't filing in an arc you'll notice that the hole you file doesn't match the threaded hole behind!

life's quicker this way....

regards

Taffy
 
"i have to say that dale's cam timing figures didn't stack up with 1mm of lift but were spot on for 'moment the dial guage moves'. i think the less said there the better"

Out of 100 camshafts you of all people would be the one. :lol: LOL

Gear Slotting:
Slotting the camshaft sprocket is a must in particularly when altering deck height, etc.
Make use of a rotary table and mill. (for most this means a trip to the local machinist)

Here is a picture of solid bushing / solid roller cam chain I purchase in bulk and distribute:
DSC05252.sized.jpg


One Dollar per Link including Master.

Dale
 
BOSS said:
66 link's of solid did chain sell's for 24.30 retail Just a thought.
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Hi Rick,
The new OEM chain is OK, I guess. The bulk I have was sourced during the dark period and of the highest quality. You know such to be true as you have purchased chain from me. :)


Chain.jpg

2004 OEM Chain Failure.

Dale
 
Yes dale that is true,but it's still in the bag that you sent it in.
Would it be worth anything to you? Shorty after the conversation I had with you
the oem did solid roller chain showed up,hopefully most of the dark day's
are behind us now! But thank's for the help :D
 
Yes I no about the problems with split roller chain & they should of too!
In 05 they introduced the new DiD chain & has been very good!
 
BOSS said:
Yes dale that is true,but it's still in the bag that you sent it in.
Would it be worth anything to you? Shorty after the conversation I had with you
the oem did solid roller chain showed up,hopefully most of the dark day's
are behind us now! But thank's for the help :D
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No need as I have plenty. However, you may want to hold onto it as the weather changes quick around here. :lol:
Dale
 
Not to hijack a thread or anything but the pic of the 600 head ,Dale
would 'nt thorshammer also be better served with the conical vale sprig's?
So as not to come into contact with the rockers witch I'm sure you have seen.
Albacore had a 98 501 that had said failure,just another thought.
 
Dale I'v got plenty & am aware of weather conditions!I'm also sure you
could not beat the price!Just sleep on it!
 
BOSS said:
Not to hijack a thread or anything but the pic of the 600 head ,Dale
would 'nt thorshammer also be better served with the conical vale sprig's?
So as not to come into contact with the rockers witch I'm sure you have seen.
Albacore had a 98 501 that had said failure,just another thought.
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Rick,
I thought you had a couple of "real" Husaberg race bikes from Austria?

Said bikes engines are equipped with dual springs, "Del-West" Titanium valves and Titanium reatainers.

In addition the camshaft has duration similar to my X2 profile requiring less spring pressure.

The OE conical spring nose pressure @ .420" lift is near 300 lbs. Like a Harley. :lol:

FYI:
I have yet to have a problem with OE race or my own dual spring kit.

As a matter of fact the conical spring with extreme nose pressure was introduced to dampen harmonics from the "snap open" OE camshafts.

Low Hour OE Conical Spring:
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Note:
The "real" race engines do not retain the axial balance unit. 8O

Your too funny.

Regards,
Dale
 
For the record:
I see where this thread is heading and shall stop posting. If anyone would like to play outside of the sandbox simply give me a call.

510 223-9052

Dale
 
Is it just luck then that keep's my berg together in a 12hr or 24hr race?
No x2 cams here no Del-west titanium there just solid everywere!!
You could use a little more of the sand box Dale!!!!
 
Taffy Dale & Json just to mention some names. I just want to thank you for the awesome site.
I have the timing gear sorted and, wow what a difference, I probably gained 5 BHP. The kick start and e-starts much easier now too.
The information provided is greatly appriciated. I would be still be struggling with the bike if it wasn't for you guys who put in so much time and effort for Husaberg riders around the world.

With Best Regards
Thor
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HD FB1340 96
KW ZX10 89
 

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nice to hear that some of the things we suggest really do work! feedback is rare.

so what did you actually do to it?

regards

Taffy
 
Glad to see that the children released the thread back to you only slightly worse for wear, Thor :)

Good deal that you've got it running. Please keep in mind that if you get in a bind for parts, we'll do what we can to help you out. It's not unheard of to send parts packages out to those with no dealer.

thanks,
json
 

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