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Pro's and Con's of my new 570

Joined Jan 2009
45 Posts | 0+
McCall Idaho
2 rides and 140 miles later here is my quick opinion on the new berg. I'll start with what I don't like.

This is the noisiest motor I've ever set over, likely due to the 70 degree, closer to the ears. Frankly, it sounds like I'm stirring a bucket of bolts every time I hit the throttle.

Fuel economy is VERY disappointing. 30-32 mpg

A slab of marble would be more comfortable than this seat.

Loose rattling noise (Loose cam chain) started today. Loosened the 21mm nut until I heard the click and the noise went away. For how long is any ones guess?

Now for what I like.

Absent the fuel economy the FI is FANTASTIC, NO BOG, instant throttle response, chugs very well without dying. Twisting the throttle is pure pleasure! Starts flawlessly thus far!

Suspension right out of the box, everything at factory setting is far superior to any KTM I have ridden or owned, can't speak about Jap bikes because I havn't ridden any lately. I will spend the next few days playing with the clickers, but if it got no better I wouldn't be terribly disappointed with the way it is now.

This is by far and away the most agile 4 stroke I have ever ridden, it's just point and shoot, flick it from side to side like a 200. VERY IMPRESSED! I would go so far as to say it's more agile than the 300 KTM I sold, and turns WAY better!

This bike turns better than any bike I have ridden, the front tire is VERY planted, it never seems to want to wash out, I complained about that on every KTM I ever owned. Hburg got it right, no complaint at all. The rear tire breaks loose a little easier than a KTM 530, good throttle control and it's a non issue in my mind.

Brakes are very strong, you could make an argument that the front brake is a little to grabby, a light touch is necessary.

Odds and ends observations

Not a big deal but both the brake and shifter were too low for my taste, quickly remedied.

Your boots will quickly destroy the finish on the motor covers, frame, and some of the rear plastic.

The chain comes 1 link too long, unless you want to go up in sprocket size. The first time you adjust the chain you are at the back of the swingarm. Too long is easier to remedy than too short. Personally I think 13/50 would have been a better stock choice, but for trail riding I think 13/52 is about perfect, for faster riding 14/52 would be about right.
 
PRO"S AND COM"S OF YOUR NEW 570

The noises you hear are maybe just because your listing for them and the fuel economy is probably because it is brand new and everything is a bit tight.
My 570 is starting to loosen up and I dont hear any funny noises, and Iam starting to notice better fuel economy.
Maybe you should wait a while and get a few mor K's on the clock and check these problems then. ??????????????
 
RE: PRO"S AND COM"S OF YOUR NEW 570

Wierd, about the noise that is. My 450 is easily the quietest 'new generation' 4 stroke I have ever heard. Compared to my 08 450, which always sounded like a tin can full of marbles, it is silky smoot quiet. Even the timing chain thing has not been an issue...yet.

BRN2RDE
09 FE450
08 FE450
 
Hi Mrpwr
I own 09 my self, reading our post and kind of keeping things objective what I want to to know. what kind of review would give a first ride on a ktm ?

later VIKING
 
Viking

I have owned 5 KTM's, I never kept any of them for more than about 1 1/2 years. I never found a KTM that I liked that much, the four srtokes were/are very bog prone, the KTM suspension just doesn't work (MY opinion), and they never turned worth a damn. So, you are obviously wondering why I owned 5 of them. Well, if you don't want a bike with hard motocross suspension and a close 5 speed tranny your choices are pretty small. Plus, KTM never built an oil seal that didn't leak. Can't wait til the oil leaks show up on the new Burg.

Wow, can't believe you guys don't "hear" the Motor? Every time I hit the throttle it's like shaking a can full of bolts.

I may get accustomed to the motor noise, but this is not a motor I will enjoy listening too. It's a common thing for people to say that thier motor will perform better, get better mileage etc., after "X" mileage, I have never actually found this old wifes tale to be true. I have checked mileage on every new motor I have purchased, be it pickup, snowmobile, ATV, motorcycle, my experience has been that after about 100 miles nothing really changes. If this bike proves me wrong I will gladly accept the extra range. Once the bike has been out long enough for the tuners to do their thing someone might come up with a new program that brings the fuel economy back in line with the carb models. I consistently got in the low 40's on the 530, so I don't see why the fuel injection can't do at least as well.

When I read other reviews it always sounds like they were written by the manufacturer, I prefer to hear what doesn't work, as the faults often determine how well the machine functions overall.

Provided the motor proves reliable, I would have no problem stating that this is the best dirt bike I have ridden.
 
iv got the 450 & must admit not keen on the sound of it,,,it sounds bit quite tbh & bit like a cg125...its little bit clunky at times but probly coz im use to 2t
also i dnt like to much oil on the airfilter,it wouldnt start when i oiled it the same way as ise to do 2t

all the rest of the bike sofar is the nuts :tongue:
 
MrPwr
by the sound of it you like this bike more than the other bikes you owned
for those of us that have owned husaberg for a long time noises have not been our
concern but I can tell you this motor quiet compared to some previous motors
having the intake / air filter under the seat it is going to be more noisy than other bikes
the benefit of this placement is that air filter stay cleaner than other bikes
I have swung leg over few bikes no other bike comes close to this 09 husaberg

later VIKING
 
Hi Mrpwr,
Congrats on the fe570.
Your report is spot on, my thoughts exactly compared to the ktm.
I have had four ktms, the last one being a 530 and you are dead right, the back does break away a little sooner but the front more than makes up for it.

I know what you mean about the noise. On my first ride, i thought jeez this is giving me earache, but when you listen to both bikes, the 570 is no noisierthan the 530. The ktms all sound like a can of nails anyway.Must be the angle of motor feeding the noise up but by the third ride i never even thought about it, too busy enjoying the bike i guess.
Plastic rather than metal bashplate and foam helps to deaden it.

As far as chain length adjust, the swingarm and seat are the same as ktm , so no change there.

The only issue for a few seems to be the camchain tensioner and i am still unclear whether the odd initial rattle noise is anything to worry about. My 530 would do this then go away and was ok over 2000 miles. My 570 gave a slight rattle when started after 3 weeks from cold but the noise soon goes when warmed up. If i got a heavy constant ticking noise like the vid halfway through a ride then i would bung it back to the dealer and let him check it .
Oh, the fuel, yes it is poor mpg, i got 69 miles to a tank last ride and equivalent ride on ktm530 was 85 miles but the 530 does have a 0.5 litre more capacity.
So far, only 260 miles on my berg, but the best bike i have ever owned, its -10 ice & snow everywhere and i wanna get out aarrgh!

Keep us updated Mrpwr after a couple more rides.

Cheers,
Nick
 
HI Mrpwr,

Thanks for your write up with your new bike.

As far as the motor noise that you and fakesy hear, I imagine it's not nearly as quite as a 2t, or a KTM, but, the other Berg motors were very noisy due to the straight cut gears on the primary drive. The older motors have a very distinct sound and they were noisy, but, I wear earplugs all the time when I ride now anyway.

As far as the fuel mileage goes......... Down load the instruction manual for the user setting tool. I don't know much about this kind of thing, but, it appears to me from the limited reading I have done, that there is a pretty good chance that you could lean off the mix a bit in the lower rpm range or perhaps throttle positions. This would be especially true if you were to utilize the data collection function of the on board computer, so you could see where you could lean it off a bit. But, still have the power you want when you twist it on. So, with this in mind I think there is indeed a great possibility to have a good setting for at least better fuel economy and still have good instant power, and good power at either higher revs or larger throttle openings. I'm not sure how the mapping went, but, I think it might be based on rev range.

The mapping is always trying to maintain optimum A/F ratio of 14.7, and it has what it calls an acceleration feature in the mapping as well, I'm assuming to take the place of the ap. The reason the KTM's had bog problems are several fold, but, could have easily been corrected with a stiffer accelerator pump spring that they now offer in their hard parts. R&D racing makes one as well.

And I know what you mean about KTMs not feeling very planted in the front end, they always feel kind of light.

So did you run out of chain adjustment? Or did you just not like how far back the swing arm is/was? Reason I'm asking is I have about 200 miles on mine, and while the axle is back there, I haven't run out of adjustment, yet.

The main problem that I'm seeing here is that as I have just installed a 120/100 tire, there is not much room between the tire and the shock mud/dirt guard, and when I put my 14 counter on there will be less. And this is not unlike my other two Bergs.

For me the fuel economy is not that far off from my 550, actually in some situations it was the same, only problem is there is .3 gallons less in the 570. I can remember doing quite a few rides on the 550 of 60-65 miles out in the desert and only having a couple of liters left when I got back, that worked out to about 32mpg. Best I ever saw in the desert was about 35 mpg. The best I ever got was about 52mpg on the 550 but that was all roads on the White Rim ride I did in Moab.

Almost forgot........... Sounds like the 21mm nut fix cured your cam chain tensioner problem good news. I spoke with my mech friend again and he had a suggestion to help alleviate the start up rattle. Leave the bike at TDC on compression when you park it, this will help keep the strain off of the cam chain, and therefore should help the tensioner's oil from bleeding off in between rides.
 
Just got my new 450 4 weeks ago, just turned 300km. Lovin every bit of it, i had a 2007 wr250 and yes the berg seems noisier to ride but most of the noise is the induction sound because of the air filterpositioning, weak plastics could be an issue, snapped my sumpguard in two on a hard hit on some rocks.
the Berg rides lighter than the WR, more power and way more flickable, changing direction is a breeze
 
reading the newest offroad magazine here in gemany with a camparison of 4 enduros over 500ccm i was astonished the 570 has a 13/52 gearing.

Is it not very short for this engine?
Is the gear transmitting ratio so short?

The 550 comes out with 15/48....
 
fakesy said:
dale...whats this mean? leave the bike at TDC on compression when you park it

Put the bike in gear and roll it forward and listen for the intake stroke and then the motor will stop when it comes up on compression. Now either park the bike or put it on a stand until the next time you ride it.

This will put the cam in a position where the lobes are facing the top of the head, and thus there will be little strain on the cam chain, and therefore should help with pushing the oil out of the cam chain tensioner. And should help eliminate the rattle some have had on start up.
 
Update
220 miles 6.1 hr

The bike has now jumped out of 3rd gear 3-4 times, and it doesn't go back to second it gets stuck between gears and locks the bike up killing the motor. Anyone else experiencing this?

FI still works exceptionally well, but it did a small backfire climbing in second gear chugging thru a boulder patch. If it only backfarts once every 200 miles, I can live with that.

I have named this bike the "Artful Dodger". The last couple days I have been riding in an extremely rocky area and this bike turns (avoids rocks, threads the needle) better than ANY bike I have ridden, the front tire does what I want everytime. The suspension is soft enough to soak up the harsh stuff, which is what I like. Jumpers will probably complain that it's too soft, but I say it's about time the jumpers have to revalve/spring! IT'S ABOUT TIME A BIKE IS ACTUALLY SUSPENDED FOR TRAIL RIDING, RATHER THAN THE TRACK!!!!
 
Mine has back fired a few times in similar conditions. Maybe a total of 3 times and all in one day. No problems before or after. The one time it acually stalled the motor.
 
I thought the bike was stalling because it was slipping out of gear, or getting caught between gears. I was wrong! The FI is getting confused sometimes and the bike just flames out causing the bike to slide to a stop. On rare occasions it seems to get confused when you chop the throttle, then get back on it again hard. Can't say I'm pleased with this, but I still prefer the throttle response from the FI to the bog from a carb.

Anyone out there experimenting with the user tool? What have you found? Any big improvement in either fuel economy or performance?
 
The only problems I've had that resemble yours have been caused by my foot tapping the rear brake. Is it possible that is what is happening with you?

I adjusted my brake pedal down, and re adjusted the play in the throw, but, still have had a few moments where I've stalled the motor due to my foot mashing on the pedal. In such instance, in a loamy wash, I hit the brake and the motor stalled throwing me forward, and causing me to mash down harder on the pedal which prevented the bike from re starting and led to me taking a nice dirt nap.

I'm seriously thinking of cutting down the brake pedal tab to help keep this from happening.

Now that I have 15+ hours on it I have been riding it pretty hard here and there using the aggressive map and so far the FI has performed flawlessly. You haven't had any flash codes have you?

Is there a dealer near by where you could take it and have them run a diagnostic on the ECU?
 
Mrpwr said:
I thought the bike was stalling because it was slipping out of gear, or getting caught between gears. I was wrong! The FI is getting confused sometimes and the bike just flames out causing the bike to slide to a stop. On rare occasions it seems to get confused when you chop the throttle, then get back on it again hard. Can't say I'm pleased with this, but I still prefer the throttle response from the FI to the bog from a carb.

Agreed, I was racing tight woods interspersed with hill climbs and open sections today, first time in race mode on my 570.
It was ok in the morning but afternoon session it cut out on me 3 or 4 times, once on an incline and boy is this berg a heavy mutha to pick up!
To be fair the carb on my 530 ktm would pop and cut out when warmed up at certain times and the fi throttle response is so much better onthe berg i can live with it.
Could be a mixture issue that can be sorted out with user tool, too rich, too lean ?
I'm pretty sure i am faster on the 570 thro woods than my 530, dont have times, but it weaves between trees better and follows a truer line thro ruts without the front tucking in.
I still have an issue with the way the back end slides /steps out, its not predictable as other bikes ive had. It got better in the second half of the race, maybe i just need to get used to the extra power to the back wheel and adjust riding style.
 
Mrpwr said:
I thought the bike was stalling because it was slipping out of gear, or getting caught between gears. I was wrong! The FI is getting confused sometimes and the bike just flames out causing the bike to slide to a stop. On rare occasions it seems to get confused when you chop the throttle, then get back on it again hard. Can't say I'm pleased with this, but I still prefer the throttle response from the FI to the bog from a carb.

Anyone out there experimenting with the user tool? What have you found? Any big improvement in either fuel economy or performance?

I'd have to either agree with Dale on the sudden rear brake application. If you are sure that that is not possible, the go through the harness and make sure that all the connections are tight, clean, adn even add some dielectric grease. I've seen the battery terminals loose as well. I've had my 570 in both wide open ice racing situations and in very very tight, trials like situations and no stalling....except for the ones where my face is pasted on the front fender due to excessive weight transfer to the brake pedal...its a tough transition from the old bike to the new one when it comes to the rear brake :). perhaps an issue, cause it shouldn't happen otherwise.

cheers

fry
 
Greetings All!

I have also experienced back-firing (about once every half hour) - especially on a trailing throttle. The EFI has also been overwhelmed a few times by rapid changes in throttle position charging up and down gears, and seems to get confused sometimes. All my riding is done in thick desert sand (in the UAE, Abu Dhabi - Middle East) and a 'flame out' :devil: at speed is always disconcerting because the the drag the sand puts on the wheels. I daresay, as I have more hours on the bike I will come to anticipate where problems in the EFI might arise and 'ride around' them - or fall off. :violin:

Prasies of course for the great stability of the bike as it tracks through rutted sand (no dampner fitted) and its great torque for pulling up long dunes. This bike is much easier to ride than my old CRF and feels quicker. I hope that the bike will cope with the high temperatures here in the desert during the summer. We ride here (for 2-3 hours only) in temperatures of 40/45 degrees celcius, and so I hope that the cooling system (only one litre!) is up to the job. My old bike never had any problems in this area, but it did have a small expansion tank as part of the cooling system. Perhaps some of our Australian riders have experience of how the 570 copes with high temperatures?

I am new to this site, but now I own a 570 I will visit as often as I can because there is a huge amount of valuable information here (contributed by a good number of experts). Many thanks to you all for creating a well-spirited community.
 

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