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New info on 09 Husabergs

Celly76 said:
...Some dealers have taken part at trainings for the coming injection system. Originally HBG wanted to sell the bike in 08 but KTM has no injection on their bikes, so they forced HBG to wait one more year...
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Ahhh, the voice of reason. The first time I've seen someone actually hit the nail on the head!

The FI is the easy part. Getting your dealers onboard isn't. I'd say this is perhaps the primary reason we are seeing the delay.

Any company can come out with a bike that is revolutionary. But, without support (from the dealers), it will fail. Can anyone confirm that this would be what happened at Cannondale???

Luckily, in our circumstance, KTM is bigger and more capable of making it happen. They have a vested interest in the logical evolution of the offroad market.

GasGas has been doing it for years, but we ain't talking about Gasgas, so I digress...

Let us be patient, my friends, patient.

-Parsko
 
Celly76 said:
@bendberg

I would say i do have humor but didn´t realise your irony.

But let me put some more oil in the fire. Some dealers have taken part at trainings for the coming injection system. Originally HBG wanted to sell the bike in 08 but KTM has no injection on their bikes, so they forced HBG to wait one more year. Money rules the world. They are going to show the finished bike to the public in august 2008 i was told. Not talking about a prototype. The dealer i talked to wasn´t happy about the injection. He currently is looking for spare parts to remove the injection from the new KTM LC 4 690 to give this engine more torque and power.
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I preview an overflow of Keihin FCR-MX carburetors orders :D
 
ned37 said:
Ned, gas is expensive in Europe, and parking your vehicle can be complicated or expensive.
Now, you have to be nice because it seems to me his mini van is French made.
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nice? my god nic, you euros have got to get your priorities straight :lol:
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In America, cars are big, wide and sturdy. Houses are built with plaster, paper maché and the only lumber is what they also use to make safety matches.

In Europe, cars are tiny but sturdy enough to pass through the most demanding crash test assessment program in the world. They don't look like much and don't display much social status (except if you drive a Benz). But the houses are built with bricks, cement, mortar and the wood is oak, spruce and pine, from the center of the stem, and built for centuries.

Actually the house I grew up in was 400 years old, the walls were so thick, it retained heat in the winter and kept the house cool in the summer. When a 100 mph storm hit it (one of the biggest storms recorded in history), we lost 3 roof tiles. All the trees were down in my back yard (one of them was 200 years old), except for the one protected by the house.

Indeed, the priorities are different.
 
This is slightly off topic, but the new GasGas 4T trails bike is a flathead, thereby reducing high placed weight and cam chain. By laying the cyllinder down, this could make for a very low CG with centralized (fore / aft) mass. The downside is lack of HP. Think outside the box, if you ride the same bike as everyone else and take the same line, you are destined to finish in the same postion as you started in.

BTW, the rotary idea would drive the other mfgs and governing bodies nuts deciding how many cyllinders the bike was equal to and what weight criteria applies.
 
tm-enduro,

why does a horizontal motor produce different HP to an vert cylinder? I dont get it - yeah gyroscopic effect and its effect on the CofG, but HP output - why?

Azza.
 
awilksch said:
tm-enduro,

why does a horizontal motor produce different HP to an vert cylinder? I dont get it - yeah gyroscopic effect and its effect on the CofG, but HP output - why?

Azza.
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Sorry, my bad. I was referring to the advanatages/disadvantages of the flathead layout there.
 
tm-enduro said:
awilksch said:
tm-enduro,

why does a horizontal motor produce different HP to an vert cylinder? I dont get it - yeah gyroscopic effect and its effect on the CofG, but HP output - why?

Azza.
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Sorry, my bad. I was referring to the advantages/disadvantages of the flathead layout there.
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The advantages are many, for instance and they all ready say it, is the lower center of gravity on the bike, HP will remain exactly the same???

another thing I read it on this thread is about a rotary or wankel engine, it would be impossible they have many problems regarding thermodynamics thermal efficiency and thus the fuel economy, imagine that on a dirt bike.

There where many bikes like NSU´s, Hercules back on the 74 to 77´s and in 1976 Suzuki RE5 Rotary all of them with large engines and big radiators.
 
I picked up a copy of Supermoto magazine today and having just glanced through it the news section includes this;
'It's been confirmed that a fuel injected, reverse cylinder head 450 machine is undergoing final testing in pre-production guise. And the trick new engine is rumoured to be producing
more power and torque than the parent company KTM's own DOHC 450! our source also revealed that a high reving 250 thumper was also being tested.
The bike's unlikely to break cover until mid way through 2008 and may be released as an early 09 model'
2008 FS450/650 have neater graphics, blue anodised brake reservoir covers and oil filler cap, updated suspension settings and new front axle.

Some good content in this months magazine
 
Nice scoop Petorius, do you have a web link to that magazine or internet site.

The fire is well fueled now chaps!

Roll on 2009!

Azza.
 
well, thats no good - they all want a subscription... Petorius, do you want to PDF the files and post them under your other thread? - it'd be good to read, but I dont need a SM magazine to lead me astray!

Azza.
 
The previous quote is pretty much the item in it's entirety Mr Azza. There is a buyers guide also in the magazine but i may get ten years hard labour if scanned and posted. If you are interested however sent me a message. I assume you can do that here!

Regards,

Mark
 
I am shure they will do

Celly76 said:
Didn´t they mentione a 650 engine
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the complete range of engines, now for instance is new the 250, maybe they will do it, but that is direct competition against KTM, why would they do that??

I am really happy knowing that my friend the dealership of www.motoaltavista.com.mx told me exactly what the news are saying, hope everything is true!!!
 
Well it would be great if Husaberg started producing FC bikes again and one of them was 250, that would fo sure be my first buy :)
 

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