I found a brand new 04 berg on a showroom floor...

So today I went looking to see if i could find an 07 to look at in person. In my travels I found my self in Modesto CA at D&H cycles. They had no '07's BUT they did have two 04's both FE450's and a few FS's (they were in the back and looked like 04's don't know what size)

One 04 was brand new and the other was a demo bike with a rekluse installed.

The owner stated he had had the new 04 for 980 days!! 8O 8O . and was ready to deal! I don't know what that means but it may make some one happy.

I don't now how many "new" 04's there are left out there, but someone who is looking for an upgrade may do very well if they are looking for a 450. he stated he will not get any 07's until he sells the 04's he has. hell at the rate he is going he will be looking at 08's..

my dealer has a lot of 06 models , he says they have to sell 1st before he gets the 07 .

i really like the 07 look and when they arrive i will get one . [ starting to need a berg fix ] .

'mid west' over here in the UK are advertising '04 450s in FS and FE also the same for '05s but also the 550FE and (this is all off the top of my head) an FS or two.

this is the worst advert you could possibly have, it says more than all the bull! it doesn't matter how a dealer or importer dresses it up - when you see that you have to say that husaberg have got something wrong? and so what is it they've got wrong?
poor model range?
poor reliability?
poor customer relations?
poor brand image?

me? i think that they've simply got too many things still going wrong with them up to and including '06. they also screwed up gettiung rid of the 400 and the 501. but then supermoto is 450 and 650 so what is a man to do?

well maybe it should have read:
FE400
FS450
FC450

they've also quietly forgotten their MX range which couldn't possibly continue without another 6 BHP and a factory development programme that was at the CUTTING EDGE. you let your MX go today and you let your enduro and trail go tomorrow.

husaberg had a reputation for powerful, brilliant handling, expensive exotica that was fragile. so let me think which part of that reputation you'd try and keep and which part you'd try and get rid off?

if they're not careful they're going to blow it completely! i think they need to get away from KTM again and BREATHE in the air elsewhere!

i'd like to know the sales figures world wide for the years 2003 to 2006! i'm afraid it will make very sad reading. whilst i don't believe that husey's are unreliable you have to compare them to other manufactureres AS WE STAND and right now they're 'unreliable' again!

regards

Taffy

whosahberg said:

my dealer has a lot of 06 models , he says they have to sell 1st before he gets the 07 .

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What do you mean by "a lot" ?
In france (55 millions of people), only 6 Zaberg FE model 06 are been sold in 06, but 300 samples of 04 and 05 sold during 2006 .... big, big sale for the 04 and 05 models (35% off) .... the enduro bikes are too expensive, so you keep your old bike or you stop enduro :evil:

Taffy must have woke up with a hangover or the weather over there has got em' down. Your more than welcome to buy another brand and torment the memebers of that brands unofficial ethusiasts website.

Taffy said:

They also screwed up getting rid of the 400
Taffy

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DITTO! This last summer I rode my 03 Fe400E and loved it! The old 02FX470E is still running fine and is a great bike. But an E button that work every time was very nice. I felt that I was riding a lot faster with 400 and wasn’t as tired after the ride? I hate to say it but when it comes to time to replace the 400 I might be going orange just because they still sell a 400

Just for kicks what did they want for the 04 FE450?

k-dub

these are the last three posts you've done:

k-dub

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Forum: Dealer & Distributor Discussion Posted: Dec 16, 2006 - 03:06 PM Subject: I found a brand new 04 berg on a showroom floor...
Taffy must have woke up with a hangover or the weather over there has got em' down. Your more than welcome to buy another brand and torment the memebers of that brands unofficial ethusiasts website.
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k-dub

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Forum: Other Posted: Dec 13, 2006 - 09:25 PM Subject: RE: Black Rims
Okay, I misjudged your response. I'm used to Taffy's BS. If this was the way to go why spend the loot on Black excels laced to silver talons? Or are they rattle can specials with talon stickers on sto ...
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Forum: Other Posted: Dec 13, 2006 - 08:38 PM Subject: RE: Black Rims
You boys on that side of the pond are always good for a smart *** comment. Taffy, its your turn. Any Aussies with a silver tongue?

now the first two comments were in YOUR thread and YOUR topic and i didn't even make a post! you also had a go at another brit and blamed him for being from the same country as me!

keep your comments constructive or pull my leg but don't start slagging me off! if you don't like what i've written then tell me i'm wrong and pull it apart - if you can!

if you have a real problem with it though, remember that i'll be here to torment you all the way and the 4-months you've been here will seem like 4 years pretty soon.

have a noice day

regards

Taffy

taffy,taffy,taffy.......I love you man.....but......
Your signature pretty much sums up your first response to this thread.
Someone posts that dealer over here has a few 04 bikes left over that he is ready to deal with, and all of the sudden it's Chicken Little and the apocalypse.
1) If You put a Ferrari dealership in Podunk, it's probably not a very sound business decision. Your going to sit on your inventory, and maybe wont be able to give it away at any price to the locals.
2) The bikes are too expensive, especially for someone who is not an enthusiast.
3) Husaberg is more reliable than ever. Reliability and parts availability has grown in leaps and bounds since 04.
4) Why wouldn't you drop your MX line when your competitors spend more money on R&D and race support in a season then the total net worth of your company. I guaranty that a very small percentage of Husabergs customer demographic race MX. Even if they mounted a successful MX effort, they would not be capable of meeting the new supply and demand. I can see why the abandonment of MX may have been a very sound business decision of theirs. You need to focus on your customer base.

I personally see a steady and ongoing improvement towards all of the issues that have plagued this brand over the years. Are they perfect.....hell no. Is there still room for improvement....you bet. Is the sky falling? Not likely.

Sorry for the thread hijack risky.

70marlin said:

Just for kicks what did they want for the 04 FE450?

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Well, this is the reason i did not by my 550 from them.

They have a 2004 fe450 that they have had for 980 days and the sticker still read like 7600+fees. no wonder they can't sell the bikes! but I don't know what he would be willing to take. he saids he was willing to deal.. whatever that means. I would think at this point a dealer with multiple 04 stock still on the floor would seriously consider have to take a loss and recoup at least some of the expense. it is getting to the point now that people who are looking for bergs usually have the resources to get the latest and greatest. and buying a 3 year old bike even if it is "new" is not what most people want to do. especially when they can go and buy a New model for a bit more.

But there must be some one out there who is looking to get out from under there legacy bike and wanting to go to the 04 and up and this may be the ticket if you can talk it out of him.

BTW if you call of investigate you want to talk to Dave- he is the owner and the one who can make the deal. don't bother with the other sales guys, they no nothing about the berg. Dave rides the SM at the track days in stockton and loves the bikes.

I guess this place sells a lot of KTM and suzuki but they are stuggling with the bergs..


edit, I would think that if you are going to DEMO a bike that is no longer making a Mx model, your would demo the 550, the "all arounder" rather than the 450 which is the size people would be looking at to race Mx, The 450 is a great bike but i don't think it wins many completions against people who are in the market for a 450.

berger said:

1) If You put a Ferrari dealership in Podunk, it's probably not a very sound business decision. Your going to sit on your inventory, and maybe wont be able to give it away at any price to the locals.

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soooo what are you saying?... I used to live in the town just outside of Podunk! sheeezzz

D&H is actually the ONLY dealer to sell bergs fro LA to the bay area... and he services a LARGE demographic area. ther actually is a lot of money in this area, many people from the bay are fled to the modesto area. but you are right, i ride in the hills of this area all up and down the central valley and have yet to see an other berg.

hey Brett, a while back you stated that Clawson motorsports in Fresno was going to be a dealer. what happened?

Thats what wrong with Ferrari now isn't it,first they set up dealers in Podunk but of course the real problrms are that they have
Poor model range
Poor reliaibility
Poor customer relations
Poor brand image
I also think they really messed up by dropping the model 4000 and 5001.
And what about terminatingg their rally car team,what were they thinking? If they are not careful they are going to blow it.I for one would like to know the sales numbers from 2003-2006....
I wonder if this ferrari dealer in Podunk will take a few new 04 Bergs on trade?

$7600 +fees is a steep asking price for an 04 FE450.

The trick to making deals happen is to approach the seller with something more in your pockets than some loose change and lint.

When you're serious about trying to make a deal pay the seller a visit and try flashing $6k in cash. Unless you have a letter of credit from some bank then cash is king when working to strike a real deal.

If you guy's want all of the models, reliability,customer relations and brand image, just start riding Honda's!! Heck, they are even cheaper.

Oh, but wait....they blow up too....and they will be the first one's to go tell you too bad!! They do have alot of models so I guess it's OK :thumb:
Yup, Honda's all around, 3 cheers for Honda....unless you want a purpose built SM bike. Then you will have to go to boutique brand with limited models. If you get one of thoses crappy Husaberg bikes you get a one year warranty in the U.S., who want's that.

ThierryG said:

whosahberg said:

my dealer has a lot of 06 models , he says they have to sell 1st before he gets the 07 .

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What do you mean by "a lot" ?
In france (55 millions of people), only 6 Zaberg FE model 06 are been sold in 06, but 300 samples of 04 and 05 sold during 2006 .... big, big sale for the 04 and 05 models (35% off) .... the enduro bikes are too expensive, so you keep your old bike or you stop enduro :evil:[/quote


by a lot i mean 10 bikes , and as i have said in previous posts we will NOT get any discount on the 06 models . they are not selling so i have to wait as the 07 models wont be released untill they sell most of the 06 . if there is 10 on the floor how many are in the warehouse ???


my old bike went chernobyl and nearly mailed me over the bars in the process , so i chose to stop enduro .

I would start at $4000.00 . Would rather move the dead wood than wait for it to become a collectors item if it were me .

Husabergler said:

I would start at $4000.00 . Would rather move the dead wood than wait for it to become a collectors item if it were me .

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That is what i was thinking... I bet a bit of cash in his face for that bike and it would go like wildfire

I agree with supertireguy, I bet you could get that bike for under $6k

would tend to agree with taffy.

only bit i would add is that there are also deals being done in the uk on 04/05 yam wrs that have not been sold. so it is not only husaberg that is suffering.

unfortuanlty yam dealers will still buy in the new models as they know they are going to sell. where as husaberg dealers, for what ever reasons, have not got the same certainty.

Definately dealers around me with left over yamahas 2 and 4 stroke all the way back to 2002 suzuki's too . Priced from about 2400.00 and up but nobody wants them .

risky1 said:

D&H is actually the ONLY dealer to sell bergs fro LA to the bay area... and he services a LARGE demographic area. ther actually is a lot of money in this area, many people from the bay are fled to the modesto area. but you are right, i ride in the hills of this area all up and down the central valley and have yet to see an other berg.

hey Brett, a while back you stated that Clawson motorsports in Fresno was going to be a dealer. what happened?

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Please keep in mind that in a discussion like this, I must be as diplomatic as possible
Dave (DH Cycles) is a great guy and he loves Husaberg, but no one else in the shop knows anything about the brand. I've tried to promote interest on the part of the sales staff (that's spelled: "Ben Franklin"), but I received a lukewarm response. DH Cycles is located in an ideal geographic area for our brand, but Husaberg sales success eludes them.

Regarding the shop in Fresno, I was there in May 2006 and they were hot to trot. However, their order never materialized. That happens, but we'll keep trying.

Cheers,

Brett