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maDDtraPPer

Joined Mar 2003
371 Posts | 2+
BC Canada
The Nazis at Transport Canada and ICBC are now clamping down on "offroad motorcycles" bieng on the road. Basically I am looking at my beautiful 2 Husabergs becoming off road only machines here shortly. Also the new Bergs can in no way shape or form be made road legal due to some stupid crap about RUM stickers.

So no 390 for me...possibly no Husabergs anymore either. I am a purist. I have motorycles and thats it. Not into the loading the bikes onto the trailer or truck to go do some riding unless the destination is ridiculously far away that is.

That leaves KTM as the only decent choice for a dirt bike I can take from the home to the dirt, and an amazing SM race bike that I have no track for 1000 miles to ride it on. Ya I am crying...is there any hope in hell that Husaberg is going to get those bikes certified for the road...not likely...crossing my fingers on this one but looks like the writing is on the wall.
 
i don't really understand why they are banning husabergs over there?
what is it ,that the nazis want?
what is their reasoning?
rum stickers? what?please explain??
you are not alone with this one.
we have our fair share of forever tightening governmental laws thats putting the squeeze on our beloved bikes & riding areas.
..weed..
 
RUM is the sticker they put on the fenders that states "Restricted Use Motorcycles". From my understanding what a manufacturer has to do to get rid of that is pay Transport Canada $50 000 and give them a bike to test (destroy) in order to get it certified for road use in Canada. That number is for each model as well. Not likely Husaberg will spend the money to do that. Going to be hard to sell $10 000 dirt bikes though. It's just a tax loophole that they are closing to try and get more money from manufacturers and in no way will make the roads a safer place by taking my Berg off the road.
 
So your government is going to make a law post de facto?

When the rules became tougher here, there was just a cut off date for new bikes but the ones already licensed were grandfathered in.

Better have a look at your constitution and if there is post de facto clause in there you and all the other people who are going to be affected by this should file a class action suit.

Most of the time there is a loop hole somewhere. Dig a bit deeper maybe you'll find one. There's even one here in the Peoples Republik of Kaleeforneeia.
 
There closing the loop hole. There is one way left. Strip the bike, get rid of all the factory stuff (serial numbers ect.) and then register the damn thing as a home built machine. Now isn't that the dumbest **** you've ever heard? My buddy just bought a BMW 450X because of the crack down.
 
maDDtraPPer said:
There closing the loop hole. There is one way left. Strip the bike, get rid of all the factory stuff (serial numbers ect.) and then register the darn thing as a home built machine. Now isn't that the dumbest stuff you've ever heard? My buddy just bought a BMW 450X because of the crack down.
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And of post de facto, what did you find?
 
They did this here in Ontario stopped the conversion plating of off road bikes. Pushed through buy the MFG.But anyone who's bike was all ready road plated was grandfathered in. So the last day of the old laws I got my 200 exc done and my Berg was plated when I bought it.You can still plate KTM EXC but that it, and now I see that you can buy a DRZ with a RMZ motors in them. I think the MFG wants us too buy Dualsport bike from the factory and not make up on our own. And I am not sure but I think here in Ontario you can not road certify the new Bergs. But Scott would know better on that.

So if I were you Trapper get it done before they change the law they did the same in Quebec and all bikes plated prior to the change were also grandfathered in. Hopefully this is the case in BC. Or is there too many tree hugger's out there.

Trapper buy in the States and have done their you must know someone with a address you can use for the registration.If you guy south of the boader still can road plate them. Just a thought.

fedge
 
i still really can't understand the reasoning?
they want road bikes rid'en on roads & dirt bikes only rid'en on dirt.ok..what about dual sport bikes, thats a grey area to start with?
as far as i can see our husabergs meet the same laws in lighting, sound, etc as any other registered/plated bike.
is it the tyres that they come with when they are imported into your country, that is not up to standards?
that could be the only difference i can think of, between a dual sport bike & a husaberg.
are they banning dual sport bikes(dr's,xt's,xr's) as well?
..weed..
 
You forgetting Husqvarna...

Husqvarna makes an entire line of street legal dirt bikes, the TE series. At least, they are street legal here in usa. They are fine machines, and can be bought at any Husky dealer, but order ahead....they sell before they get here on the boat.......Husqvarna is a quality machine.....and they are not $9,000.00 freakin dollars like KTM is trying to get for their bikes.....I just don't get paying that much for a freakin dirt bike.......
Mike
 
RE: You forgetting Husqvarna...

It's politics. I can only guess the manufacturers of the street legal dual sports such as Honda, Suzuki, KTM ect are placing a lot of pressure on the government to close the loop hole. Why? Because they have spent a lot of money meeting Transport Canada's certification. Now they are not selling bikes because people are just putting lights on their dirt bikes.
 
RE: You forgetting Husqvarna...

that's a pile of canadian sh*t madtrapper, unbelevable that a govenment can spoil fun so easily.. if it makes you feel better: in holland they approve the bikes on the roadm but nowhere in the terrain, only on a fey unpaves roads ( less then 1% ) and racetracks. but hey, they only add a little tax to make the retailprice of a dirtbike at least US$ 15.000,-....
 
fedge said:
Trapper buy in the States and have done their you must know someone with a address you can use for the registration.If you guy south of the boader still can road plate them. Just a thought.

fedge
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I checked before Husaberg is not on the "approved import" master list. You can't buy it and import it. I guess to protect Canadian dealers. I had wanted to buy an Aprilia from the states before and came across that road block.
 
Ya I read that Loz. Doesn't sound good. Some SOB has my handle on there! lol I had two Bergs sold for my local dealer and well the other guy bought something else and my friend is holding off to see what happens. I'll be damned if my next bike is going to be orange! Maybe grab a cheap two stroker for my lender/woods bike until or if Husaberg gets the bikes certified.
 
I went to get a plate (Street) for my 05 FS650E (in may 2009, Ontario) It had already been on the road, but the manual does say it is a street legal machine, you should be able to get the E model licenced just not the C model. The reason is C model sold without Throttle Stop and has no lights, meaning it is not street legal, the E has the throttle stop but you take it out and lights, also knowone knows the differance.

In ontario we have green Offroad Plates and Blue On Road Plates, Green just means you can ride off road, on the trail systems, and roads around the area. Blue plate means you can ride anywhere.
 
I'm sorry, but this sled guy sounds like an *****..... I mean idealist to me. If anybody out there buys this crap about being "revenue neutral" I've got a bridge to sell you. Just ask all the California guys, how are those green sticker funds working for you ? The second these government ****** bags smell your money be prepared to see the size, scope, and the intrusion of your government into your personal live increase exponentially. I'm not an educated man, but I know one fact: it is immpossible to spend your way to prosperity, oh ya one more: you can't legislate intelligence. One question, who knows the difference between genius and stupidity ??????????.....................genius has limits.
 
Stoveguy said:
I'm sorry, but this sled guy sounds like an *****..... I mean idealist to me. If anybody out there buys this crap about being "revenue neutral" I've got a bridge to sell you. Just ask all the California guys, how are those green sticker funds working for you ? The second these government ****** bags smell your money be prepared to see the size, scope, and the intrusion of your government into your personal live increase exponentially. I'm not an educated man, but I know one fact: it is immpossible to spend your way to prosperity, oh ya one more: you can't legislate intelligence. One question, who knows the difference between genius and stupidity ??????????.....................genius has limits.
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Tell what you really think Ron :D

Although the BC government recognizes how much of an impact snowmobiling makes on local economies, and may feed some of that money back into the system, you are likely very right about what is really going to happen with the registration money. I know that all OHV registrations go to general revenues here in Alberta, leaving our forestry grossly undermanaged, yet highly sought after for access management.

as the penguins in Madagascar say " smile and wave boys, smile and wave"
 
Hey FRY I just watched the video on Cornergrass...I think there's a midi escavator purchase coming up and I will start "recycling" tires when I get home. Awesome! Although lawsuits do come to mind.
 

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