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09 FE 570 Runs rich after 50 hours

Joined Aug 2009
1K Posts | 346+
Charters Towers, Australia
It seems to me that all of a sudden my bike is running fairly rich, compared to robbos identical bike my exhaust is sooty black, fuel consumption is worse. When robbo is behind me he reckons it smells fuelly and after warm up if I give it a good gassing I can see soot flying out the pipe and the motor feels a little less crisp. I have checked lambda, water and air temp, TPS connectors etc but cant find an obvious problem and no fault codes come up so far. I'm thinking the lambda sensor my be out of whack. Has anyone else experieced this, its a 300 km round trip to get the ECU read out, maybe I'm missing something simple ?
 
Do you know what map is in your ECU? Closed course or greenie?

The 09 bikes delivered to the US were not EPA legal, so they installed a closed course map, and the lambda sensor is not used.
 
If your map is using the Lambda it could be out. I have spent the last 3 years playing with the FI 990's. The last one that I was data logging had both Lambdas go off line for more than a minute at times. I also had my wide-band data logging at the same time. When they would go(at seperate times), the ECU went nuts trying to figure out what was going on. We replaced them with Bosch units and the owner reported more crisp response. The 990 uses a bigger one than the Husaberg. Bosch had a cross referance page on there sight. Don't remember if Husaberg was on there.
 
aaaaah grassopper for truly this is a direction I believe that shall enlighten my path to enlightenment :D I'll try checking the bosch site an post up what I find.

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This is what appears on my lambda sensor still Bosch cross reference ? Where is the Bosch spambot when ya need it ? 8)
 
done measured my lambda sensor as per shop manual and... my meter tells me it down to earth, apparently I should have 6.8 - 8.0 ohms resistamce @ 20 C temp.
 
berglsmerg said:
done measured my lambda sensor as per shop manual and... my meter tells me it down to earth, apparently I should have 6.8 - 8.0 ohms resistamce @ 20 C temp.


so does that mean its sahorted to grounfed?
 
sorry mate I meant to say that there is no resistance between pin 3 and 4 as described in the service manual it should have 6.8 to 8 ohms. I had inhaled half a litre of JD by then so i was gettinjg pretty loose, and yes I re measuered it this mrning and got the same result. Air filter is good, called the dealer and they couldnt give me a firm answer except to say if it did get flashed it would have the 2010 competition map. Bosch dont list husaberg neither does NTK or just lambda, it seems its a weird part number, perhaps one of those turnouts where you can only buy from Husaberg $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ :cuss: :cuss: :cuss: :cuss: :cuss: :cuss:
 
255 bucks for a genuine sensor :cry: Aftermarket or cross reference seems non existant :cry:
 
It's a pretty skinny one that's for sure. Not the industry standard thread size. For that price I would go with a $60 Bosch and grind off the stock bung. Drill out and weld a new bung on. These sights here usually have whatever clip you might need if you don't want to cut the old wires and solder a new one in.
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or see if someone on here has their stocker their not using after going to the comp map.
 
Mate,

Why not just go and have the dealer install the competition map, it will do away with the need for the 02 sensor altogether and it's one less thing that you will need to deal with.

For that matter, the 2010 green map doesn't use the lambda sensor either, so if you want to keep the green map, you could just have the 2010 green map installed.

Dale
 
I think that would be the way to go daleEO, flow would be improved as well. I live in avstable climate and elekvation is not an issue hopefully the dealer I purchased the bike from is able to do this for me not holding my breath as they arent the sharpest peanuts in the turd :) Hope this is making sense I got rollede at the pub last night and my head looks like a kicked in ***** tin
 
Sorry to hear about the pub incident.

The bike will still adjust for altitude/air temp etc even without the lambda. They had to use the lambda to meet the Euro II emissions standards at the time, but, have since figured out how to get around it.

My 09 has the comp map in it from the time I bought it as the tank did not conform to EPA standards so they put the comp map in the bikes delivered to the states. The air temp sensor, map sensor, engine temp sensor etc will still adjust for altitude and temp according the input from the sensors based on the programed parameters.

If you make a big change in altitude or temp or both since the last time you rode the bike, all you have to do is let the bike idle for about 15 minutes without touching the throttle. The computer will automatically adjust to the new conditions. The dealers do this "burn in" when the bike is un crated as part of the set up.

The dealer shouldn't charge you anything for reflashing the ECU IMHO as it is just a matter of hooking it up to a computer and doing the deed. It shouldn't take very long, and I would think it would be good customer service.

Once that is done you can just put a plug in the bung and disconnect the lamda and you'll be good to go. The lambda has a heating element in it as well. There is also fault codes in the computer that will be generated if any of the wires go to ground. So by removing the lambda you will eliminate a potential problem from a device that is not in service.

Let us know how you get on. This is the first I have heard of any of the sensors on the bike going bad.
 
Yeah will travel up to townsville on monday and have a go.The heater circuit shows no resistance. Wont be ridng for a while coz the helmet wont fit in my scone. 8) 8)
 
Found this interesting little turnout http://www.vortexcdi.com/husaberg_ecu.htm The ecu, map switch and programming kit probably costs less than the xc-1 setting tool and would give greater control over settings, not to mention the external adjustments 8) So yeah :cuss: travelling to the big smoke to get fault codes etc read, I can do all my other maintenance and repairs so why not have this capabillity. Aussie made too.... Anyone wanna buy a stock ecu and map switch :) :) Will get the low down tomorrow.
 
Ok here is the follw up. Took the ecu and lambda sensor to the dealer as I only have a sedan. The dealer was reluctant to do anything without the bike but agreed after much cajoling to have a go for me. They found that the ecu was in fact not installed with the closed course map and still retained the green map. They managed to reflash the ecu for me even though they told me it was impossible to do anything without the bike. I was instructed to fit the ecu and run the bike for 10 mins with no throttle inputs ( its very cool here at the moment, a legacy of ex tropical cyclone Ului and 7 pm) so with the aid of a workshop fan i have done this. All that remains to be seen is how it performs tomorrow. Ther has been three days of solid rainfall here so I am itching to get out early am tomorrow and test it out. FWIW I binned my multi meter ( 2 cent piece of ) the dealer told me the lambda sensor measured 8.1 ohms which I did not belive for a second, I then took it to a good mate who is a bike mechanic who measured it with a blue point meter and it showed 22.3 ohms so I firmly blieve it has had the ****.
 
Where is the lambda sensor mounted? I can't see one on my exhaust anywhere.
 
Should be just after the join in the first and second pieces of the header ie just below your right knee when you sit on the bike, possibly being 2010 yours was never fitted I dont know enough to qualify that though.
 
2010 FE570s do not have a Lambda sensor.

On the diagrams below you can see that #28 is not present on the 2010 and the p/n for #20 on the 2010 says "W/O LAMBDA".

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Thanks I will stop looking for my oxygen sensor now :)
The old exhaust sure runs hot on the 570

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