07 Bergs?

Hmmmm.
Black forks but not black rims, just the opposite of what I expected.
I never expected to see flames on a Husaberg either, shows you what I know! Otherwise no surpises, KTM really didn't change much on the RFS models either.
BTW, apparantly the '07s are not street legal?

Supermototeam said:

AJSB said:

Now that the cat is out...dont you have by any chance some pics that you
could share with us , do you ? :wink:

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Sure:
http://www.husaberg.com/2007/index.html
Sorry about my lack of web skillz, but I think you get the point

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Thanks Brett,
Thats the best good looking Bergs that i ever saw in blue/yellow plastics !!! :cheers: :rock: :bow:
I love the new sticker set and the new yellow/blue plastic matching !

Brett, is that FS fuel tank the same dark blue tank of the '06 FS or a new
BLACK tank ? (it seems (more) black(ish) but inquiring minds want to know)...

Any pic(s) of the new counterbalancer and related bearing ?


PS: Thanks LeFrog for the corrected pics links :thumbup:

FE models- love the flames and the red side panels. Very bad *** and sharp. Lots of fun too. wow I want one.

tm-enduro said:

Hmmmm.
Black forks but not black rims, just the opposite of what I expected.
I never expected to see flames on a Husaberg either, shows you what I know! Otherwise no surpises, KTM really didn't change much on the RFS models either.
BTW, apparantly the '07s are not street legal?

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I also love black rims and would be nice if they have it but OTOH they scratch alot...still, i agree with you...maybe in '08 :wink:

However, the black fork is veeery nice.

It would be nice if they also had the new Galfer wave rotors like the '07 KTMs but that can also be fixed (...and Galfer also makes a front float wave rotor with same design of the "old" style Braking wave float rotors which i consider the most beautifull design ever as opposite to the current Braking design which is (IMHO) uggly).

All enduro bikes are street legal here :teeth:

tm-enduro said:

I never expected to see flames on a Husaberg either, shows you what I know!

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I believe that West Coast Choppers just went into syndication in Northern Europe :lol: :lol: :lol:

on second thought those flames are kinda... well flaming..like maybe the 07 berg enduro models will have a staring role in the new Pirates of The Carribean movie........ :williamshatter: :toothy2: :rainbowafro: arty: :rr: ccasion9: :hathat13: :lol:

My opinion, for whatever it's worth, and some may disagree, but here it is.

This is the same design, overall, and it's getting old.

The flames are in poor taste and the mix of colors is ugly. Now, if you're a Belgian or Dutch rider, you may find this pretty.

The Supermoto model is a bit better, since it is all black, and when in doubt, paint it black.

There is basically no ground-breaking innovation.

Is it slightly more reliable than the 2006? Great. More reliability is always good too take, but not really overly motivating.

Now who's to blame for this debacle? KTM, I would understand they carry a bit of the blame, but the Husaberg shop could really have come out with something more innovative than just an ugly decal kit.

We're not asking for an anti-gravity module, but they need to throw us a bigger bone than just the chicken wings.

LeFrog said:

My opinion, for whatever it's worth, and some may disagree, but here it is.

This is the same design, overall, and it's getting old.

The flames are in poor taste and the mix of colors is ugly. Now, if you're a Belgian or Dutch rider, you may find this pretty.

The Supermoto model is a bit better, since it is all black, and when in doubt, paint it black.

There is basically no ground-breaking innovation.

Is it slightly more reliable than the 2006? Great. More reliability is always good too take, but not really overly motivating.

Now who's to blame for this debacle? KTM, I would understand they carry a bit of the blame, but the Husaberg shop could really have come out with something more innovative than just an ugly decal kit.

We're not asking for an anti-gravity module, but they need to throw us a bigger bone than just the chicken wings.

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True, but look at the intended purpose of the FE models. Their direct, and closest, competition is the KTM exc RFS. If you compare the two, the Husaberg has better features. For '07, it has adjustable offset clamps, external preload caps on the forks, and high/low compression adjustment on the shock. The exc's don't have any of this. The Husaberg also is a few pounds lighter and feels 15 pounds lighter.

The KTM's are street legal in the US for '07. If Husaberg had done this, I can already hear the cries on this board about how the Husaberg further distanced itself from its racing pedigree.

I foresee Husaberg's future being that of a "high-end" enduro/off-road racing motorcycle. If you've ridden a late model FE, you know that they are as good as anything for their intended purpose. I do wish they would also make a more narrow-focused bike along the lines of the KTM XC class of bike. I think they could pull that off and be competitive. I think a competitive, cutting edge 450 motocrosser from Husaberg is a pipe dream, nothing more.

Not a fan of the red.
The flames are a little 2 fast 2 furious.

I would love Husaberg to do something revolutionary and grow on the great bikes they are. Maybe they were just to many years ahead of there time and having trouble improving on perfection.

Supermototeam said:

tm-enduro said:

I never expected to see flames on a Husaberg either, shows you what I know!

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I believe that West Coast Choppers just went into syndication in Northern Europe :lol: :lol: :lol:

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I never thought of that angle, I was thinking they were marketing the PT Cruiser crowd. Boomer are running around in pimped out flamer sporting Cruisers everywhere. :lol: :lol:

Actually, I kind of like the new graphics, would look really good with an Omero tank.

For people that think that Husey is falling behind, I agree with Johnf3, we all know that Husey is still a leader in production 4T enduro bikes. Going to the next level is difficult. It is easy to make something different, making better it hard. The Hbgs handle, have good power, are reliable, and are affordable, to me all that is left is dropping the weight. I would guess that adding $400 to $800 per bike and making them street legal is cheaper than putting the bikes on a diet.

mark550fc said:

Thanks Brett,
I cant wait for the 07 WORCS series.
Can we get the boys to consider bringing back the 501?

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I agree, where is the WORCS / GNCC 501? The bike designed to go head to head with the crfr, yzf, rmz, kxf, sx/xc offroad race bikes. Oh yea, there are only 5 of us interested in one.
Actually, kudos are due to the Hbg dudes in charge for supplying detailed race bikes (such as the WEC 450/ 496 550 seen racently) to racers, it will pay off!

..................I do like the Idea of the FS550 .

I'm really upset about loosing the FS450. Sure, 3 or 4 guys will buy the FS550 but there is a WC class for 450cc bikes and all national champs also have that class. How can one be so stupid to NOT have a 450cc supermoto bike ????


Regarding the red side panels on the FE models I was told that maybe you would get a set of backgrounds in different colors so you can easily add your own race numbers with the correct background color depending on your class/country. That is a great idea. Won't cost the factory anything but as a customer you feel a bit pampered.

quite like the looks of this one.
but as previouslt mentioned could do with some whole sale re-developement to re-energize the model range.

also notice that on the side of the berg shown in the pics it says "works" could it be that these are pics of a ltd edition in the mold of the ktm "factory" bikes or is this the final spec for general customer bikes?

cypher said:

quite like the looks of this one.
but as previouslt mentioned could do with some whole sale re-developement to re-energize the model range.

also notice that on the side of the berg shown in the pics it says "works" could it be that these are pics of a ltd edition in the mold of the ktm "factory" bikes or is this the final spec for general customer bikes?

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A slogan from the past is "A works bike for everyone" or something similar. I'm guessing they are trying to pick that up again.

I really like the looks of the new bikes, both FS and FE, maybe a bit more yellow or blue details on the FS but not far from perfect.

I cant get the FS550 out of my head. Who on earth will buy it. And what kind of signals are sent to the guys wanting to race in the 450cc classes over the world.... Sure, make an FS550 but keep the 450. How hard can it be to just put a 450cc engine in instead of a 550/650....

Well i was one that was ranting about KTM was holding down Hsb but after i saw the pics of the 07 bergs i cooled down...

Lets face it, the Bergs are allready very good and complete bikes as for weight, center of gravity, power (i.e. 550/650), handling, stability , air filter location (simply PERFECT, i hope that they NEVER change that) and
acessories (thermostat, optional el.fan,etc. and now pre-load adjusters...) goes and with better suspensions than KTM. There isnt much that Hsb can/could improve..you must undersand that its simply hard to improve something that its allready (near) perfect....

...and improve what ?

Plastics ? Like KTM did ? i hope not ! the 07 SX plastics are horrible! If you ask me KTM is over the board with excessive straight lined plastics in their bikes...and how uggly are those rad shrouds holes !

Alu frame ? i hope not ! KTM itself with is CrMo as lighter frame than CRFs and other alu frames (i dont know how does compare a Berg frame weight against the weight of a complete KTM frame+subframe),etc....
...and lets not forget that alu is more prone to stress cracks...and usually gives less feedback to the rider.

A new engine ? well double camshafts are good only for MX and 450 SM,..and you an be sure that i do prefer to have the valve adjusment system in current Hsbs than the system used by double camshafts engines...seems also that new SX engine from KTM doesnt have space in the cases for 6 gears which is mandatory for me (..and it needs to be wide ratio in my book and not like Husky TEs are)

Sure they could lauch a new 250cc engine but that engines are very prone to go south and i believe that the option of Hsb to make a 380cc kit than a full 250cc new engine is a better option for weekend warriors...
afterall many of the 250cc owners are anyway increasing the engine capacity and what they wanted was a 350-380cc because in the end they feel their 250 machines are "underpowered" for open terrain...(but yes, for WEC it could be good a new 250cc machine...not that i will buy it because i realized that they dont have the kind of power (and the minimum of reability) that i like in a bike).

Some ask for a MX bike...but competition is not only MX/SX...look to GasGas, their MX is not competitive, still they are selling lots of bikes...of the Enduro and SM types with good results in WECs history allready with some titles (seems that Hsb is also now this year getting again better results in WEC...)...so, when people here are ask for more presence of Hsb in competition, don forget that competition is not only MX and SX but also Enduro, SM and...
...rally-raids.(BTW, talking about competition and innovation, its about time that Hsb makes a Rally-Raid kit with larger fuel tank(s), external oil resevoir to increase oil capacity and lower oil temp in those rally-raids like Dakar...i bt that een KTM is tired to be alone in total domination of rally-raids and if the competition comes from its own field its a win-win situation

The truth is that besides EFI (which indeed is a shame thats not allready avaiable in the 07 machines (but hey, the same goes for 07 KTM, Husky, Yam,etc. which also dont have it and anyway i guess that its natural that if KTM owns Hsb and themselfs dont have EFI, they hold Hsb to use...its hard but still natural,anyway everybody its gonna have EFI in '08 ), BNG, improved reability and better suspensions there isnt much left...OK, can we have next year Galfer rotors and black rims besides EFI in '08 ? :wink:



...and doesnt matter if you compare me to a Belgian or a Dutch, i simply love the new graphics!!! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Sure 2 fast and 2 furious, but isnt that for Hsb stands for ?

Jocke_D said:

I cant get the FS550 out of my head. Who on earth will buy it. And what kind of signals are sent to the guys wanting to race in the 450cc classes over the world.... Sure, make an FS550 but keep the 450. How hard can it be to just put a 450cc engine in instead of a 550/650....

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Agreed. Here in the U.S. the premier class in supermoto is also the 450 class. The 450, which works great in the FE bike, just gives up too much to the japanese (and now KTM) DOHC bikes in SM where peak power is at a premium. I guess Husaberg figured they would produce bikes for classes where they at least have a chance in SM.

My two cents;

I like the fact that there is a steady march of refinements on the new bikes, like the adj offset triple clamps, a return to the adjustable spring pre load for the forks (as long as you know what you're doing with these it's good), strengthening of crankshaft main bearing area in the 550, which is probably true in all the bikes as I can't see them making a special case for the 550 and not for the 650 & 450, but, maybe. The improved water pump seal is a good thing if they were having a problem with last years bike, hope the new one fits 04's. And the changes to the transmission are another step in the reliability direction.

The works replica reminds me of the Husqvarna Heiki Mikola (sp?) 360 replica that I got a chance to ride many years ago.

If you don't like the flames I'm sure an exacto knife will remove them quickly. As far as BNG goes, Husaberg has definitely set a new standard there, where the Jap companies might put on a new set of tank stickers, Hsuaberg changed the color of the plastics as well as adding new stickers, different color side panel stickers, as well as the fork guard stickers.

And don't forget! Unless something has changed, the FE models come with a one year warranty, something that others don't come with. As I've said before, this says a lot about the confidence the company has in it's motor.

I think Husaberg is heading in the right direction as I have seen more Husabergs in the last couple of years than I have in the last 10.