Why KTM owners always speak bad about Husa´s

because most, not all, are just sheep in human clothes.... BAAAAAAA, BAAAAAAA,

All it takes is to inform the KTM rider that their motor is the old Husa design and in purchasing a new Husaberg you merely wanted to obtain the lastest technology. Don't forget to thank the KTM rider for having faith in the old design as it was a good one and we enjoyed it all the way till 2000.

husabutt said:

All it takes is to inform the KTM rider that their motor is the old Husa design and in purchasing a new Husaberg you merely wanted to obtain the lastest technology. Don't forget to thank the KTM rider for having faith in the old design as it was a good one and we enjoyed it all the way till 2000.

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More than half will not belive that ............................
until YOU SHOW THEM a pre 2001 engine :twisted:

I just let the roost do the the talking.

rica_roel said:

husabutt said:

All it takes is to inform the KTM rider that their motor is the old Husa design and in purchasing a new Husaberg you merely wanted to obtain the lastest technology. Don't forget to thank the KTM rider for having faith in the old design as it was a good one and we enjoyed it all the way till 2000.

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Is this true¡¡¡

why the kick start is on the right side on the KTM and in the 2000 Husas where like now on the left¡¡¡

Cheers

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KTM has of course been updating the old Husa motor for seven years now.

husabutt said:

All it takes is to inform the KTM rider that their motor is the old Husa design and in purchasing a new Husaberg you merely wanted to obtain the lastest technology. Don't forget to thank the KTM rider for having faith in the old design as it was a good one and we enjoyed it all the way till 2000.

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I just wish that Husaberg kept the "old" design as it is a better design than the new one, IMHO.

rica_roel said:

Why do you say that?? in terms of what?, durabulity, relaibility????

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I'm not a big fan of the crankshaft mounted counterbalancer, and even though I have no major issues with the vertically split crankcases I know there are many who do.

Whether we like it or not, KTM took Husabergs basic engine design, refined the c%#p out of it and made it a better engine.

Husaberg were stuck with an all new design, with a lot of new features that they are still trying to engineer their way around many, many, (some would say too many) years later

For durability, I'd go the KTM.

For performance, I'd go the "Berg.

Just my humble opinion.

sorry folks but i went the other way, from 'berg to KTM. I was a dedicated berg man but it burnt me in the end. In fact i have since bought 2 new KTM's and am all primed to buy a 3rd when the 2008's come out. to top off my KTM defection, i also went 2 stroke!!! don't call me a basher, but i hardly knew what to do with my new-found spare time!

my maintenance is about 1/10th or less. i haven't changed my riding habits or engine hours per bike. i am making comparisons over approx 170hrs/year. Total maintenance on 300EXC - new rings at 100 hours, about 8 oil changes, 4 spark plugs just for the sake of it, and not one wrecked ride or visit to the dealer for repairs. There is another way.

Have Fun
Jeff

JJW501 said:

sorry folks but i went the other way, from 'berg to KTM. I was a dedicated berg man but it burnt me in the end. In fact i have since bought 2 new KTM's and am all primed to buy a 3rd when the 2008's come out. to top off my KTM defection, i also went 2 stroke!!! don't call me a basher, but i hardly knew what to do with my new-found spare time!

my maintenance is about 1/10th or less. i haven't changed my riding habits or engine hours per bike. i am making comparisons over approx 170hrs/year. Total maintenance on 300EXC - new rings at 100 hours, about 8 oil changes, 4 spark plugs just for the sake of it, and not one wrecked ride or visit to the dealer for repairs. There is another way.

Have Fun
Jeff

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...but you still have to hang around the Husaberg site. Hmmm, that 300 getting boring? Tired of not being able to pick out your bike at a ride? That's OK, we'll take you back whenever you're ready.

Rings at 100 hrs? 4 sparkplugs? Please. I'm still on the original plug. Rings or piston? Check back with me in a couple of years. Wrecked ride? I just got back from a ride in Moab where 50+ Husabergs had no problems. 80-100 miles every day for three days.

There is another way.

JJW501 said:

There is another way.

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Sure, but the Berg crowd is more into the old-fashioned hetero thing. :lol: That being said, the Berg crowd also does not discriminate and we'll surely accept you back regardless of certain preferences/orientations when you're ready!


have fun,
log

ktm vs hbg

KTM does not make a bike comparible to the HUSABERG 2 tk or 4tk

RE: ktm vs hbg

They are just jealous, IMHO. That is why they "lash out".

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2000fc501rider said:

They are just jealous, IMHO. That is why they "lash out".

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only lashing out seems to be from 'berg owners. 8O

i still look at this site from time-to-time because i have an interest in 'bergs, and if i thought they were suitable for me i would buy one again. I made a no-nonsense comparison as a KTM rider, that being the theme of the thread, yet the responses are personal attacks. i don't really care, i just find it amusing.

like being the only 2 stroke rider at rides (boring and common eh). not letting a 4T beat me up hills and out-wheelying the big bores keeps me more than occupied and has ruffled a few feathers i can assure you.

can we run a little comparison maybe, outlining average maintenance per 150hrs or something and see how we all fare? or shall we all just bury our heads in the sand? real comparison can be a bitch. BTW i don't think i have met anyone who admits that their bike is a lemon whilst owning it, myself included. perhaps pride tends to warp one's judement sometimes?? or does a 3 day trail ride prove exceptional reliability????

BTW, yes the berg had more torque than anything else i have owned or ridden in that class, but it was reflected in maintenance and reliability.

i see it like this............................
frequent use = berg not practical
weekend trail rider who does 50hrs a year = no worries and good fun

Have Fun
Jeff

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Different horses for courses blokes.

1. If you want reliabilty and low price rebuilds then everyone should be on a 2 Banger and not do any long distance WOT riding and be content with a short 80km to 150km varied terrain loop.

2. If you want torque and power and reliabilty and weight. And you ride open spaces with long distances and very little tight terrain then you should be riding a XR or an LC4 or DRZ.

3. If you are an enduro racer who doesnt want a 2 stroke but still wants the best suspension/handling/power/torque/lightweight then you are left with KTM/Honda/Berg/husqvarna/Yamaha etc etc etc all Racing 4 strokes and all prone to having there share of problems.

Hence reliability can never be a certainty with any of them. Husabergs failing bearings, Big Ends etc and KTMS gearboxes and mains, Hondas Valves and bottom ends and Gearboxes, Yamahas Gearboxes. They are race bikes and one needs to understand such things when buying one.
Because one bloke got 10000kms out of his 525 KTM or 550 Berg etc etc is no guarantee anyone else is going to do the same.

Now for the clincher what to do if your a trailrider (and occasionally like to have a dip) but you ride alot of tight and a alot of open terrain and dont like the idea of riding a 2 stroke in all that open and you dont like the idea of the Heavy LC4 in the tight but what you do want is reliability and performance ( hahahah i like those two words together they make me laugh reliability and performance). Someone should make a bike that can do that....

i see it like this............................
frequent use (no long distance)= 2 Stroke
frequent use (with long distance and tight)= Racing Four Stroke be prepaired for repairs
frequent use (with long distance and tight)=DRZ/XR/LC4 reliable not as nice to ride
Weekend Trailrider 50hrs a year = who knows depends where he or she rides, what they want from a bike. I can tell you one thing they certainly wont get the best of all 3 of the above.

It is,obviously,one of the most heinous sins known-bike envy-pure and simple.It's all well and good to say"yeah,my volks golf is made by the same company that makes the A4 Audi plus it's more reliable"but we all know what they'd sooner be riding 8)

This thread is so inane that it really doesn't deserve a response, however on second thought I just can't resist.

WHO'S BASHING WHOM??? I follow and/or contribute to several motorcycle websites, and from my vantage point it seems that many Berg owners are more defensive about their bikes than their KTM counterparts. You might note that (even) KTMTalk has added a Husaberg forum to their website, apparently to the chagrin of some of the members here. And furthermore, KTMTalk members often refer Berg queries over to the expertise here at Husaberg.org.

As a former Berg owner, a current KTM owner and very likely a future Berg owner, I certainly have appreciated the advantages, benefits as well as the similarities of both bikes.