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Splicing GPS units into loom

Joined Oct 2006
746 Posts | 1+
Kangaroo Island, South Australia
Hi all,

I have trawled the doc and the forums, but excuse me if I have glossed over it - the link in the doc takes me to the UHE home page again.

I am wondering if anyone can tell me the best place to splice in 2 x power supplies for GPS units on my '05 FE550, I am guessing that the wower consumption of the 2 garmin units will not be too much for the Berg charging / generator system, I am sure they will need DC only as they would normally come off the cig lighter in a vehicle.

I would prefer if the units power supply cuts off when the engine is cut, both units will revert to battery operation untill the engine is re-started - if not manually shut down first.

I am not opposed to setting up dual batteries if necessary, and would like to keep the fan circuit available incase I need to install a fan (AC anyway I think??)

Thanks in advance for any assistance

Cheers!
Azza.
 
What GPS unit are you using? Garmin 60 have issue changing power supplies they like to shut off.
I use my battery tender/SAE plug to power my GPS's .
 
Sorry,

Using a Garmin Nuvi 250 for street nav, and just working on getting hold of a Garmin etrex legend for offroad application.

if it sounds strange, the idea is to kit up with the street style gps to get me out of Sydney and into Perth, the other unit is to work out the offroad stuff in between. part of a big dream to cross the country.

Cheers!
Azza.
 
I power mine straight off the battery through a fuse. Never had to replace it and it is only a 1A. Unless you put a relay in there you wont be able to switch to the internal batteries when the engine cuts out.

The power draw from the units must be less than 5W which means that even if you have two, the battery will not drain.
 
I am not sure where to find the +12V Ignition wire on an old school Husaberg. But here is how you can wire in 2 GPS's using a relay:

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I would ride out of Sydney with you on my bike but Sydney car drivers scare me too much.
Keep us posted when you get closer to leaving.
 
Awesome Davo, thanks, that is more or less what I thought would work, not sure on the amperage draw ? should rarely run the two together anyway.

Righto, onward to the dash box or frame to hold the units.

Cheers!

Azza.
 
Newbie. Why not run an outlet directly from the battery? Garmin 60csx's will take the voltage. Reno Deano
 
Gentlemen,

Still on this project despite separation and custody battles for my two kids... what doesn't kill 'ya hey !

RE: '05 Berg, hoping one of the Safari riders or someone with a shop can assist...

So, still cant pick up a 12v active when the bike is fired up to maintain power to my 2 x GPS units.

Headlight plug has blue, green and brown wires, one is obviously neutral, the others are high & low, but each one works independent of the other, thus i seem to be able to pick up 12v on ingnition+high beam or ignition= low bean, but not constant.

Is there something im missing here? should i be coming off the parker lamp wiring?

this active circuit is to flick the relay only, I have the constant power feed sorted to power the units.

Eagerly awaiting a definite reply.

Shakedown ride - accross the rock - e to w Kangaroo Island on the weekend if all goes to plan - good news is that if it drains the battery, the bike kicks beautifully :)

Cheers!
Azza.
 
As far as I can understand the wiring diagram...
If you use the white wire to the parking lamp you should have constant feed to the relay as long as either hi- or lo-beam is used. Brown is always neutral/earth/ground. :)


/Nick
 
FWIW, I'd just go to the battery through a switch, forget the realy and resulting auto switch off. The GPS units use very little power. My Magellan XL will run for a couple of days on 4 AAs so why worry if you you forget to switch it off overnight. It also means you don't have issues with the power switching on and an off at servos etc through the day.

I fitted a timer relay from Redarc in my ute to allow the CB and CD and GPS to remain powered for 20 mins or so, adjustable to 60, after switch off. It resets after being repowered.

Otherwise, what nick said.

What's happening with the trip Azza, when is the ETD? I still might be able to tag along for a bit. Sad to hear about the family breakdown.

Steve
 
Thanks Guys,

Steve, the trip is on the back burner a bit, yet to see when it will happen, had springs from the UK fall through when they didnt arrive, which caused a couple of hundred dollars and time setback, but otherwise the bike is really close to being a goer.

On the GPS, I have gone with the yellow and brown under the headlight switch, these are on only when the bike is running and not subject to the switching of Hi & Low circuits at the lights. great news is that it does exactly what its meant to - auto fire up, auto cut off and this allows the internal batteries in the GPS to kick in and keep running or hold memory rather than reset. Bad news is its AC current, and the relay didnt like it (it chattered) so i've had to install a rectifier as well to compensate for that.

Should have it sorted today, and then i can turn my attention to getting my FC going again, after its exploding rear hub episode.

Ciao.
Azza.
 
Hi Azza,
I would use a IN5404 diode. It is a bit of overkill but has good sturdy leads to solder to. Mount it with the white paint marking towards the relay coil.

The diode I think will be enough but if it still chatters you will need a Capacitor. I would use a 220uF 50V Electrolytic Capacitor at a guess. You could probably get away with a smaller value and a larger one will be OK too. Just make sure it is 50V or higher rated. Electrolytic Capacitors are polarity conscious and usually have the negative (-) lead labelled. I modified the diagram for you.

Not sure how you are going to make them vibration proof so the solder joints do not break. I guess a few layers of Heat Shrink tube would work or encapsulate the diode and capacitor in silicon.

Keep us posted when you are coming over as I would like to see how your bike is setup. Would also like to catch up again with Steve, he is a champion bloke.

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okay Ladies and Gents... finally my opportunity to return something to the users of this site ! :)

Here is the formula, perfect working GPS (aux) wiring on when engine is running, off when engine is off, by the way, this would work perfectly for anyone running thermo fans that has a problem with them running on after stopping the bike.

power circuit : pick it up from the thermo fan lead run it to wherever you want it to go, and branch one leg of the wires to the 30 and 87 terminals of a bosch normally open relay, one with a diode across the coil. the ends of that circuit are normally off until the switching circuit of the relay is activated.

Switching circuit: branch your switching wires from the yellow (active) and brown (earth) wires under the headlight switching block, the dual core wire will come out the left side of the switch block, where there is a convenient relief for a wire to come out (perfect !). run the wire to your clamps and install a 35w (four leg) bridge rectifier with your two (a.c. wires) from the switch block on the input side, and then run the output (d.c. current) neg and pos to the +86 and 85 terminals of the relay noting polarity.

Your power supply to GPS etc is now totally isolated, so no current leakage anywhere, and the switching circuit fires up your GPS as soon as you have kicked or thumbed the bike, and turns off when you kill the engine, which lets the GPS revert to internal batt power. my GPS's have auto power down in 20 secs when power is lost if you dont hit the 'stay on' button. either way, they maintain hot start mode, so when you fire up again, so it remembers where you are.

On top of this i upgraded my headlight from 35 / 35w to 55 / 60w... so all up im pretty stoked, and it all works great.

Azza.
 

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