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Some spark with Sparks' stator...I am pulling my hair out!!!

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drdfblackm

Joined Mar 2007
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Ok well I have a stator that Sparks has redone.....hooked up everything and still no spark.....touching the plug against the engine. I have checked my wiring, it is all correct, I have checked the reading on the stator it checks out, I have a brand new plug in the bike. What the hell is going on here.....I am destined to not have a running Husaberg. I am about to put my fist through this computer I am so mad.....I just can't seem to catch a break with this bike. Someone please give me some kind of input.....I have checked the ground....assuming the tree on the bike is grounded.....I am just at my wits end here. :angry:

Darrin
 
i second that coil or plug lead even plug cap all easy to check.
wean i raced jet skis plug caps and leads were alway the weak link 8)
 
Ok last I checked, I have a spark, but it seems weak. I checked the resistance on the multimeter and it seems to read normal.....Thanks to Sparks' stator, but I can't figure out what the deal is.....from everything I have read, the coil doesn't give problems. Since my bike doesn't have starter or lights at this point, I only have 4 wires to worry about. Red, black, green and the ground.....I am not even worrying about the kill switch at this piont. I am just not getting this. I am not an idiot....nor am I seasoned mechanic....but as you can see from my other post, http://husaberg.org/index.php?name=PNph ... 7509#57509, I am nearly at my wits end. I want this bike to run so bad, but I am running out of ideas and abilities. I am begging for help of any kind.

Darrin
02 FX 650
 
with the lead and cap just throw them away and replace they are cheep parts probably $20 as for the coil you can take to a sparky to check or i use a screw driver and touch the metal Spike inside the coil once the lead is out and then hold the screw driver next to a earth then crank the engine a bright blue stark should jump to earth . that is if u dont have a om meter to check the Resistance . you can also stick you finger in the coil and crank the engine you will know of the coil is working well or not
this is bush mechanics 101 ( I'm from New Zealand ) :roll:
 
Coil contains more than just windings. Has electronic components similar to a CDI box, and CDI boxes can go bad. If stator is new and wiring is good....... There is a used one off a parted out bike on E Bay now. Plug wire and cap could be an issue though, so try changing them first as previously suggested.
dan
 
drdfblackm said:
I only have 4 wires to worry about. Red, black, green and the ground.....
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Darrin,

This statement of yours worries me. Why? Because it doesn't fit what wires should be there or what they do.

To makes sure we're clear. From the stator you have red, black and green that connect to the cdi red, black and green. Then, from the cdi you have 4 wires, grey, orange, white and black. Black connects to earth. White doesn't connect to anything as you haven't got an e-start. Orange is the kill switch and grey is the Hi/Low circuit. Orange when eathed (as in when you press the kill switch, kills the engine. Grey when earthed puts the ignition is Hi.

Hope this helps,
Simon
 
Further,

In the hard start guide located on this site, it gives step by step instructions on how to check for the proper voltages on the stator for static checks and during kick over. Found here http://www.husaberg.org/index.php?modul ... lay&lid=16

Patience young skywalker, you're narrowing it down.

As sherlock holmes said: When everything probable has been eliminated, whatever remains, however improbable, has to be the answer.
 
Not to be a dumb a$$, but how do you know your spark is weak ? If you are grounding the spark plug to the head or something , they always look weak. You can get a spark tester from Autozone, it will allow you to see the spark much more clearly and you can measure the gap that it will jump. This way Darrin you can confirm an electric problem or eliminate it. In which case if the spark is truely good you have a valve adjustment problem or as suggested a timing issue. Have patience I went through similar frustrations, mine were a combination of stator, wiring, and valve adjustment, I threw lots of stuff around my shed! You will get it sorted.
 
My tester is not from Autozone but eBay, but works pretty much the same. I went to Autozone and they had no clue what I was talking about. As usual they asked me "what year and model is your vehicle"? I would think that Harbor Freight or even Ace (if you live in the States) have one on their shelves (pretty positive about Harbor Freight).

You will need the help of a friend and wait for the night, because you can't always see the spark. Kick it and ask your buddy to tell you if he sees the spark and then increase the distance.
 
I got my stator back from Sparks and the spark looked really weak. But my 501 starts now first time, every time on the boot and will start on the button always, even with a weak battery and it has never done that before, Brilliant.
 
Another ground you might check is the grounding of the motor to the frame.Even though it's bolted to the frame doesn't mean there's a good ground. I just installed a Sparks stator on my bike and it works great.
 
Ok just to restate, I feel that the stator is functioning properly....it checks out fine on the multimeter. The spark appears weak, but as others have stated, I am viewing it during the daylight and viewing a spark on a plug is not a test....the fact is that there is a spark. I don't have the gray wire grounded....I am not sure that makes a difference, what do others think. I am going to check the timing on the bike at TDC. I did not put the top end back together myself as I did not have a way of putting the cam chain back together. However, it was done by a KTM/Husaberg mechanic....it is a Husaberg dealship. I would assume that they did it right but who knows, well I will know soon. Any other ideas would be greatly appreciated.
 
Just went kinda through the same thing, rebuild the engine, also had the rewound stator, installed it, and no starting! Wen't mad ripped out the entire wire loom, cut off anything that I didn't need, reconnected only the essential wires like said here in this thread, but still no starting! In the end it was a problem with the valves ( due too a mistake on my account one of the inlet valves never sealed properly), fixed that and she came alive!


Had the same thing when looking at the spark, it looked very weak and didn't even spark every time I kicked it, but apparantly this is normal. One thing sparks himself advised me to test, is take the plug cap of and hold the coil lead about 10mm from the head, then kick it, you should have a spark jumping from the lead to the head. I tried this and was succesfull, thus ruling out a spark problem. Check the valves, the problem almost surely lies there.
 
Well I have stripped the bike back down, I am going to take the cam cover back off and check the timing and the valves. I tried once again to start, and it will fire but not run, so I think something was put back together wrong on the shops end. But we will see.
 
Can get a KD spark tester at napa. Looks like a spark plug with a large shell and no ground electrode. Another thing to say it resembles is a surface gap spark plug. Shell is large enough that center electrode has to jump about a 10mm gap and plug body has an alligator clip welded onto it to clamp in to a cylinder head bolt or the likes for a ground. CDI unit will show a spark if working, but not a big fat blue one like a magneto or battery and coil system will.
dan
 
Well I feel now that I have plenty of spark...it will jump around 10mm from the plug to the case....had my wife pull it back as I kicked it over. Now I have no idea why it won't start.....seems like I have went over everything. Wiring, timing, valves, decomp cable....I just don't know. I need somone else to take a look at it....fresh set of eyes would help.
 

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