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riding up 3-4 foot ledges

Joined Aug 2006
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Gunnison Colorado
I could use some pointers on riding/climbing up rock ledges/stair steps on tight single track. I think I just get psyched out when failure has consequences :evil: , as opposed to more open terrain with the same obstacles. Any help from you pro's would be greatly appreciated!! :wink:
 
JZ

No one wants to falll onto their head, especially over backwards doing ledge in front of the bros. But its way easier than it looks and it'll earn you beer from those guys that were about to laugh

You need a certain amount of speed, just enough momentum to carry you over the ledge. Most failures will occur because only the rear tire hit the ledge. Your front tire, then you cradle/skid plate, then the rear tire must hit the edge. To start, find a shorter ledge, do a standing wheely into the lip, almost setting the front wheel down onto the lip, chopping the throttle to allow your moe to carry the front wheel, then the skid plate and then the rear wheel over. As your skid plate skids over, push on the bars, and thrust your weight forward, bend your knees so your bike can lift over the ledge. When the rear tire hits the ledge, blip the throttle and it'll spin its way over. I'll load a pic of me cruising over a cement barrier at last years Dirt Rider 24hr test inmy gallery.

Once you done it on smaller ones, you'll just get more confident and try the larger ones. More fun there

have fun and keep the rubber side down

fry

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Fry
You are my hero. I would give anything to be able to do that.

(well anything but the crashes that would come learning that technique) :lol:

I saw that one before but its still one of the better pics going around.
 
I have to point something out here. This obstacle was removed after a while as there were some injuries both to riders and machines while attempting to clear this obstacle. If memory serves the linkage on a WR 450 knocked a chunk of concrete out of the lip.

I believe that Mr. Fryguy was the only rider to clear the obstacle on the first attempt. Correct me if I am wrong.

Mr. Fryguy, how many others made it over the obstacle?
 
Great Input!!, Thank you, I'll work on it!!! That is some impressive skills!!
 
Thanks again, great site you linked. You guys rock!
 
Dale, I'm not sure about the body count vs the cleans, but I did hear about a bunch of damaged frames from guys doing slapdowns. I thought is was easy, but then half way through the loop, in the dark, I got passed following another rider in a dust cloud of a rider I wanted to pass, all of this happened between two washes which were 5 feet apart. The Henge' scared the poop out of me when he did it. So we each have our place in the the world of comfort.

Ahoolsma, dirt was good, but definitely possible without it though. Had King David been there!!!

Also JZ, on a small ledge, attempt it once the wrong way, by wheelying into it and contacting the ledge first. Don't go fast, and don't do it on a terribly large ledge either. The front will slap down and you'll get thrown onto the bars, hopefully you'll maintain control. You'll get the idea then what not to do. Most of allhave fun trying :)
 
The most common error that I see from riders is not staying in a neutral riding position. If you are too far forward or too far back, then you get bucked around. Observe a SX racer in the whoops, even when hanging off the back they are able to let teh bicke rock around underneath them. Many rider simple set too far back when attempting such obstacles and pile drive the rear end or seat into their backside. Fist you need to learn to wheelie while standing over the pegs, practice lofting the wheel while standing. Once you have got that, practice smaller obstacles making note of where you body position is. If you note the bike feeling like it is coming to a stop when the rear wheel hits the obstacle, you are likely too far back and are putting LOTS of force on the rear wheel, this is bad. Personally, I like to skim or partially hit the object with my front wheel, this also lessens the chance of a slap down landing.
 
Here's my method:

1) I slowly approach the obstacle.
2) I lean back slightly and bend at the knees
3) I pull in the clutch slightly allowing me to get the revs up when needed.

Here's the most important step. Pay attention.

4) I ride around the obstacle.

Note that if needed, you can also dismount and walk around it if it's too dangerous to ride around.

Very worst case scenario, you can wait until another rider approaches and have them ride it around.

So far, this method has worked very well for me.

Or you could use fry's method :roll:

thanks,
json
 
schwin,
that was very good.
made my morning.
thanks, i needed that.
tuts :devil:
 
Well let me tell you it has worked very well for schwim as i have both witnessed and had the pleasure of riding his bike. Hey Lee at the next force event maybe you really good riders could show some of us lesser riders some tricks. I for one would like to learn from you guys then maybe I could stay up with everyone
 
Shaggy, I've shown you guys enough, between demostrating the proper method for blowing liquid hopps out the olfactry organs, and my ground slithering techniques in the dark. My civil duty is done don't you think? :)

but otherwise, anytime Shaggy
 
Smorg,

That video is awesome and inspiring. This weekend, I saw my first Erzberg program on TV (a bit embarrassed to say I had never heard of it before). Wow! That is all I have to say. of 1300 riders, 21 finished. That is an Enduro!!! I think the special I saw was from 2005, though...

3-4 foot ledge, it seems just a matter of weight distribution, and knowing when and where to apply it, right?

-Parsko
 

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