I've used Rekluse's for 6 years now - mainly to run a hand brake.
They work well. Just take the time to get used to them. The new EXP is available for 09's,part # RMS-7727. Sutto's probably got an 09 with one you could test ride. I've not used one of those, but it sounds like it might work much like my pro does with all the balls as TCs, but the lever will feel just like std and it will resist stalling better than my set up. The EXP can be adjusted to get a bump start capability if you loose the button, to get you out of trouble.
You might want to check out the Clake as well- I'm thinking of trying one soon.
They work well. Just take the time to get used to them. The new EXP is available for 09's,part # RMS-7727. Sutto's probably got an 09 with one you could test ride. I've not used one of those, but it sounds like it might work much like my pro does with all the balls as TCs, but the lever will feel just like std and it will resist stalling better than my set up. The EXP can be adjusted to get a bump start capability if you loose the button, to get you out of trouble.
You might want to check out the Clake as well- I'm thinking of trying one soon.
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I have a Rekluse or Revlock on all of my bikes. I cant imagine riding without one anymore. I also run the LHRB.mickj said:
Caution: It does take some getting used to. Usually not more than a couple of hours of experimentation. If you are going to demo one for the first time I suggest taking it easy and them working into it. 10 to 15 minutes is not enough time to really see the advantages or get the true feel of it.
I have had many people throw leg over one of my bikes, ride it for 5 or 10 minutes and say "that's not for me". It"s kind of like going to another country and driving on the opposite side of the road for the first time. It takes alittle getting used to.
Yes, We have a 570 with a new EXP clutch for you to test ride! I also have Rekluse Pro Starts available and they are cheaper than 500 pound ( but sorry guys in other countries you have to go through a retailer in YOUR country) Ballards Yamaha Team use Rekluse and so does Ben Grabham from Team KTM, Team KTM ATV also use them and these are just the higher profiles guys and teams in Australia. Do yourself a favour and at least get a ride on a bike with Rekluse fitted, for the average rider it is worth about 5sec a Kilometer in the bush (single trail).
Best Regards
Sutto's
Best Regards
Sutto's
Sutto
Id like to test ride the 570
Whats the diffence with the EXP
Helped Grunt put the reluse in the 300 seamed fairly straight foreward with the install .
What adjustments can made to hook up points , or is that up to the springs .
He put a Revlock in a 570 this week, are they different again , or much the same
Id like to test ride the 570
Whats the diffence with the EXP
Helped Grunt put the reluse in the 300 seamed fairly straight foreward with the install .
What adjustments can made to hook up points , or is that up to the springs .
He put a Revlock in a 570 this week, are they different again , or much the same
Hi Mick,
EXP gives you some options if you wish, it has feel just like a regular clutch but with the fantastic non-stall features of the Pro start, but you can also turn it into a regular clutch with the change of a plate. Revloc are different but the same sort of.
Just let me know when your ready.
Regards
Sutto
EXP gives you some options if you wish, it has feel just like a regular clutch but with the fantastic non-stall features of the Pro start, but you can also turn it into a regular clutch with the change of a plate. Revloc are different but the same sort of.
Just let me know when your ready.
Regards
Sutto
Guys, i just had Sutto supply my new 570 with Rekluse and LHRB. I am a Rekluse virgin and will let you know my first impressions next week.
Guys, i got my first ride yesterday on my new 570, with Rekluse and LHRB. I had only ever ridden about 15miins on a bike with a Rekluse, so i expected to take a while to get used to it, but i seemed to get it straight away. I struggled all day to find neutral, so gave myself a few frights when i revved it from starting up. Otherwise it did exactly what it says on the tin and made seamless changes all day.
The LHRB was a revelation and i liked it more and more as the ride went on. I was doing little 1 finger prods to just scrub a little speed, while stood up and it allowed me and the bike to be in a much better and more controlled position, especially in sandy, whooped corners. I am already a fan!
If i can sort the neutral business out, it will be a sweet set up!
The LHRB was a revelation and i liked it more and more as the ride went on. I was doing little 1 finger prods to just scrub a little speed, while stood up and it allowed me and the bike to be in a much better and more controlled position, especially in sandy, whooped corners. I am already a fan!
If i can sort the neutral business out, it will be a sweet set up!
I just got the Rekluse z-start Pro installed on my bike and I picked it up late yesterday to ride home (I live about 4 miles from my dealer).
Riding away from the dealer I stalled the bike. I put it in gear, revved it a little and when it started to move I reflexively backed off the throttle and the bike died. Now the reason it died was the bike was cold and I have the idle set very low so I can putt putt along slowly on technical trails. The dealer sets up Rekluse clutches such that they engage almost immediately, and this is what I indeed wanted - I knew it up front. I am just saying this because it caught me by surprise and it is not an issue. Once I get used to it this won't happen, especially when the bike is warmed up - I notice it only takes a few minutes for the clutch to engage a little differently once the bike is warmed up; it is not so abrupt, and the bike hasn't stalled on me since.
It will take some getting used to. I didn't get the bike until late yesterday so all I had time for was to try it out in my yard and my dead end street. I like it, but it will take some getting used to - especially at slow speeds. One of the things I noticed right off was that if I let the bike idle when at a stop on an incline, it would of course roll backwards when the clutch disengages - so either keep moving forward, be prepared to use the brake, or (least desirable) use the throttle to hold your position - I would want to do the last for very long as you are essentially slipping the clutch.
Also, now, the clutch lever seems to be mostly useless (at least to me), so I am thinking about whether to get the LHRB - I think it will be helpful.
Other than that, I didn't notice much difference while riding at speed - it acts mostly like the stock clutch. I purposely shifted up and lugged the bike to see how it handled a load in a gear too high. The bike would lug just a little, but when it reached a point where the bike might start to lurch or buck under load, the clutch would 'slip' and let the engine rev a bit higher and then the bike would move faster and the problem would be solved. The slipping is not a problem, from what I understand this is the design to prevent stalling. I wouldn't be intentionally riding this way normally, but I wanted to know what would happen if/when I mistakenly try to climb something in the wrong gear - and it did what I expected.
Just with playing around with some moderate inclines in my yard, I think I am going to like it. I will find out for sure today when I take it out on the trails.
I do think I am still going to want to get much lower gearing. For one thing I would prefer to be riding along well above idle, instead of at idle as I do now on some really tight stuff. For another, I think this will help with downhills as the clutch will be disengaging at a lower speed so I will still have some engine braking at slow speeds.
Riding away from the dealer I stalled the bike. I put it in gear, revved it a little and when it started to move I reflexively backed off the throttle and the bike died. Now the reason it died was the bike was cold and I have the idle set very low so I can putt putt along slowly on technical trails. The dealer sets up Rekluse clutches such that they engage almost immediately, and this is what I indeed wanted - I knew it up front. I am just saying this because it caught me by surprise and it is not an issue. Once I get used to it this won't happen, especially when the bike is warmed up - I notice it only takes a few minutes for the clutch to engage a little differently once the bike is warmed up; it is not so abrupt, and the bike hasn't stalled on me since.
It will take some getting used to. I didn't get the bike until late yesterday so all I had time for was to try it out in my yard and my dead end street. I like it, but it will take some getting used to - especially at slow speeds. One of the things I noticed right off was that if I let the bike idle when at a stop on an incline, it would of course roll backwards when the clutch disengages - so either keep moving forward, be prepared to use the brake, or (least desirable) use the throttle to hold your position - I would want to do the last for very long as you are essentially slipping the clutch.
Also, now, the clutch lever seems to be mostly useless (at least to me), so I am thinking about whether to get the LHRB - I think it will be helpful.
Other than that, I didn't notice much difference while riding at speed - it acts mostly like the stock clutch. I purposely shifted up and lugged the bike to see how it handled a load in a gear too high. The bike would lug just a little, but when it reached a point where the bike might start to lurch or buck under load, the clutch would 'slip' and let the engine rev a bit higher and then the bike would move faster and the problem would be solved. The slipping is not a problem, from what I understand this is the design to prevent stalling. I wouldn't be intentionally riding this way normally, but I wanted to know what would happen if/when I mistakenly try to climb something in the wrong gear - and it did what I expected.
Just with playing around with some moderate inclines in my yard, I think I am going to like it. I will find out for sure today when I take it out on the trails.
I do think I am still going to want to get much lower gearing. For one thing I would prefer to be riding along well above idle, instead of at idle as I do now on some really tight stuff. For another, I think this will help with downhills as the clutch will be disengaging at a lower speed so I will still have some engine braking at slow speeds.
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Phoenix Arizona
CodeMonkey said:
There is some break in time for the Rekluse. That may have been part of the stalling issue. I, personally like a high and firm engagement point on mine. I want no creep at all. this will allow you to adjust the idle allittle as needed without the clutch dragging or creeping. It should help with clutch longevity as well. I prefer to be able to coast down hills and brake slide into corners, so the high engagement point works well for that. If I need engine braking it's just a blip of the throttle.
As for the clutch lever, I have opted for the LHRB and never looked back. The clutch lever ony had one small advantage that I could see. That being that I tend to ride a gear or 2 too high alot of the time. When coming across a "G-out" or other unknown obstacle it helps to be able to use the clutch to loft the front wheel.
Well, after I ride it a bit I may want a harder engagement, but at this point I think I like it as it is. I'll come back with some more opinions after I ride today.
My riding style is different too - I tend to be very putt putt riding tech trails and I like it that way. The slower the better.
So I did some tight trails today. It really does help there. It isn't magic, but it does help you ride smoother because the clutch is more or less self moderating in the sense that you don't need to be working it to keep the bike from stalling. I didn't stall the bike once and there were plenty of instances where I would have without the Rekluse.
The way mine is setup I like it. When going down a hill I don't freewheel because my idle is so low and the clutch is set to engage just above idle, so the only time I go down hill with the bike freewheeling is when I have stopped on a downhill and let the bike roll forward due to gravity and the bike is idling.
As for what some people say about the Rekluse working like a slipper clutch on downshifts/etc. - didn't notice that at all. Once it is engaged it is engaged. The rear tire will skid and so on if you downshift too soon.
The main benefit is that pretty much whatever you do, you won't stall the bike. This frees you up to pay attention and work on other things.
It does take some getting used to, but it isn't that big of a deal. You have to remember that if you apply throttle the bike tries to move forward. If you let it come to a stop and the engine at idle, the bike will roll back if you don't apply the brakes. But overall that isn't that different and is an improvement over dealing with the clutch.
Which brings me to my other observation - I said the clutch lever seemed useless. Well, it still works, it just feels like it is almost not there. Indeed, it is preferable to use it for downshifting to keep the rear wheel from skidding.
Also, the slipping I talked about in gear? I don't think it is slipping. I think the bike is just working hard and it is such a light bike that it doesn't take much for it to get out of that lugging area. I would have to ride a non-Rekluse equipped bike again to compare.
The way mine is setup I like it. When going down a hill I don't freewheel because my idle is so low and the clutch is set to engage just above idle, so the only time I go down hill with the bike freewheeling is when I have stopped on a downhill and let the bike roll forward due to gravity and the bike is idling.
As for what some people say about the Rekluse working like a slipper clutch on downshifts/etc. - didn't notice that at all. Once it is engaged it is engaged. The rear tire will skid and so on if you downshift too soon.
The main benefit is that pretty much whatever you do, you won't stall the bike. This frees you up to pay attention and work on other things.
It does take some getting used to, but it isn't that big of a deal. You have to remember that if you apply throttle the bike tries to move forward. If you let it come to a stop and the engine at idle, the bike will roll back if you don't apply the brakes. But overall that isn't that different and is an improvement over dealing with the clutch.
Which brings me to my other observation - I said the clutch lever seemed useless. Well, it still works, it just feels like it is almost not there. Indeed, it is preferable to use it for downshifting to keep the rear wheel from skidding.
Also, the slipping I talked about in gear? I don't think it is slipping. I think the bike is just working hard and it is such a light bike that it doesn't take much for it to get out of that lugging area. I would have to ride a non-Rekluse equipped bike again to compare.
Oh, and wheelies. I haven't noticed much difference there, but the bike seems to wheelie easier if anything. I don't wheelie much because about ten years ago I used to wheelie every chance I got until one went wrong and I dropped the bike on my foot crushing it. Seven thousand dollars later (no med insurance at the time), 2 months on crutches/in a cast and a lot of pain, I resolved to not wheelie just for the fun of it.
i've just installed one in my 09' FE450 & the clutch feels great but i'm concerned about the gearbox cos' it's just like changing gears on a normal bike without using the clutch?
Yes, but you can still use the clutch if that is what you want - the clutch just feels really light.kfx440 said:
Most dirt bikes are shifted much of the time without the clutch anyway. I do all the time on a lot of my bikes, street or dirt, but more on the dirt. It just depends on what I am doing.
The main benefit is no stalling and no having to moderate the clutch while navigating a hill and/or tight terrain. It makes it easier to ride and it is probably easier on the clutch - if you don't abuse it.
Hope this is'nt classed as a thread hi-jack,
I'm pretty new to Husaberg and amongst all the spares I got with my bike I think I have a Reklus clutch (A load of ball bearings, springs and a few other parts?) As I am in Supermoto trim I don't need it (would rather have a slipper clutch)
Anyhow do these sell well second hand? Could someone tell me how much they are worth? Would anyone like one?
Regards
Dave
I'm pretty new to Husaberg and amongst all the spares I got with my bike I think I have a Reklus clutch (A load of ball bearings, springs and a few other parts?) As I am in Supermoto trim I don't need it (would rather have a slipper clutch)
Anyhow do these sell well second hand? Could someone tell me how much they are worth? Would anyone like one?
Regards
Dave
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