ORANGEBERG WEEPHOLE KIT
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My Husaberg has about 127 hrs on it now. It leaked oil from the weephole from around
20 hrs. I lived with it for nearly 100 hrs. The weep was consistantly predictable.
Enough to saturate the sound deadening mesh some between the skid plate and motor.
I learned it was a Berg thing from a poor design.
Boss even mentioned to me that the Orangeberg kit might not completely fix the problem.
Almost, but not quite. So in my case it was true.
But it almost doesn't want to leak at this point so the cover is definetly not coming off for
a whole 10 drops of oil.
And even before when it leaked more there was never a noticeable drop in oil level.
Pollo
20 hrs. I lived with it for nearly 100 hrs. The weep was consistantly predictable.
Enough to saturate the sound deadening mesh some between the skid plate and motor.
I learned it was a Berg thing from a poor design.
Boss even mentioned to me that the Orangeberg kit might not completely fix the problem.
Almost, but not quite. So in my case it was true.
But it almost doesn't want to leak at this point so the cover is definetly not coming off for
a whole 10 drops of oil.
And even before when it leaked more there was never a noticeable drop in oil level.
Pollo
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Howdy
Bear with me
I have read the threads, but I have proberly missed it.(scratches head)
IMO I think a simple checklist of required parts for this weephole fix would simplify things a little.(for me :mrgreen: )
My 04 650 is currently losing both oil & coolant. Not alot but increasing slightly. The bike sat for a while.
I have PMed ORANGEBERG for a kit, but am still not 100% of what else is needed to be ordered from the dealer ect.
It would be nice to know I have everthing needed for the job before commencement,
as to minimise down-time..
Any-one that has performed this task able to help with a checklist ???
Thanks
Howdy
Bear with me
I have read the threads, but I have proberly missed it.(scratches head)
IMO I think a simple checklist of required parts for this weephole fix would simplify things a little.(for me :mrgreen: )
My 04 650 is currently losing both oil & coolant. Not alot but increasing slightly. The bike sat for a while.
I have PMed ORANGEBERG for a kit, but am still not 100% of what else is needed to be ordered from the dealer ect.
It would be nice to know I have everthing needed for the job before commencement,
as to minimise down-time..
Any-one that has performed this task able to help with a checklist ???
Thanks
Not always required, but a clutch cover gasket and water pump gasket means that you're good to go. John supplies, bearing, bearing carrier, shaft seals, and shaft protection for seal installation, along with instructions.
The gaskets can be installed dry. I like to use a smear of grease on them as a sealant and to get them to stick a bit. Means they'll come apart later too, and be reusable.
Steve
The gaskets can be installed dry. I like to use a smear of grease on them as a sealant and to get them to stick a bit. Means they'll come apart later too, and be reusable.
Steve
10/10 on the weephole kit + coolant seal & gaskets..
Worked a treat.
Had a bit of trouble with the kick-start jamming up, but after talking to John that was a very fast/easy fix.
Not a drop of oil or coolant coming from the weephole at all now.
Thaks :cheers:
Worked a treat.
Had a bit of trouble with the kick-start jamming up, but after talking to John that was a very fast/easy fix.
Not a drop of oil or coolant coming from the weephole at all now.
Thaks :cheers:
John! Is there a change that you or someone that has already got the kit could post photos of the kit? I would like to see it, and see perhaps the diffrence.
thanks
thanks
when i said its changed it was only a bearing upgrade, Bigger for more service life. a simple re-program of the cnc lathe and my alloy carrier was modified to accept a bigger bearing.
The kit comes with a seal to stop the oil leak which interlocks with the new bearing carrier. Plus a protector for the seals when you reinstall and fitting instructions with photos.
Gaskets or an original water pump seal is NOT included in the kit because it would drive up the price of the kit and most times i find that the customer already has these extra parts plus the majority of my kits go to the US you can buy the extras a lot cheaper there than we can in OZ.
I can supply the bearing carrier kit $85 aud plus gaskets ( clutch cover inner $47 aud and water pump $5 aud ) plus the WP seal $15 aud if you need it. add $15 postage
If you are extra carefull when removing covers use the correct puller for the original bearing you can re use all these parts. eg grease the shaft when removing the cover and use my protector when you put it back on you may not need a WP seal ???.
Thanks John ORANGEBERG email: [email protected]
Take a look at the pics and the one in the cover is the old smaller bearing , the one with it separated is the bigger bearing
The kit comes with a seal to stop the oil leak which interlocks with the new bearing carrier. Plus a protector for the seals when you reinstall and fitting instructions with photos.
Gaskets or an original water pump seal is NOT included in the kit because it would drive up the price of the kit and most times i find that the customer already has these extra parts plus the majority of my kits go to the US you can buy the extras a lot cheaper there than we can in OZ.
I can supply the bearing carrier kit $85 aud plus gaskets ( clutch cover inner $47 aud and water pump $5 aud ) plus the WP seal $15 aud if you need it. add $15 postage
If you are extra carefull when removing covers use the correct puller for the original bearing you can re use all these parts. eg grease the shaft when removing the cover and use my protector when you put it back on you may not need a WP seal ???.
Thanks John ORANGEBERG email: [email protected]
Take a look at the pics and the one in the cover is the old smaller bearing , the one with it separated is the bigger bearing
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Does anyone know if John is still out there and selling the kit? I have tried email and PM and haven't made contact with him yet.
Any info would be appreciated.
Any info would be appreciated.
Just replace the shaft o ring at the same time i have found that it can leak if this is not replaced at the same time otherwise John,s kit is the fix.
I'd be interested in buying a kit... any other interest in Canada or the U.S.? Maybe we could put an order together to save on shipping from AUS? Or is there a N.A. Dealer who stocks these?
you can email me [email protected] or [email protected] send it to both as im at work for one week at a timeJB3 said:
John
you can email me [email protected] or [email protected] send your enquiry to both as i work away one week at a timeDuaneB said:
John
Installed this kit a while ago and now I'm seeing some foamy oil in
the sight glass and also same thing coming out of the weep hole. I
assume I'm getting coolant in the oil and that might be the water pump
o-ring but why would I still have oil coming out of the weep hole with the kit installed?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Mike
the sight glass and also same thing coming out of the weep hole. I
assume I'm getting coolant in the oil and that might be the water pump
o-ring but why would I still have oil coming out of the weep hole with the kit installed?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Mike
If the weephole is open then oil and coolant can't mix. That's why its there. Seems like the seal isn't sealing, so needs trouble shooting.
There is a 'O' ring on the cover that seals the coolant flow from the pump to the cases. If its not installed properly, coolant will get into the oil.
Steve
There is a 'O' ring on the cover that seals the coolant flow from the pump to the cases. If its not installed properly, coolant will get into the oil.
Steve
The website no longer exists but i can be contacted by email by messaging me with a PM on this site or email me [email protected] or [email protected].ORANGEBERG said:
Thanks John ORANGEBERG
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would i need to purchase any special tools (pullers etc to install this kit properly)? Should I upgrade my clutch while im in there? I saw just a tiny film of oil around my weephole, but its not leaking yet, my bike hasnt been ridden much, Its an 02 though and I cannot say how much it was ridden before me. from what I can tell I need to replace an O ring, water pump seal, oil seal, and a bearing for prevative maintenance. also, I have notice the bottom of my cases are a little wet under the front drive sproket, is there an oil seal behind that sproket that is easily replaced or is this (Normal Seepage?) ....
The only special tool required is something to protect the seals from the circlip groove on the shaft when you assemble. John includes a piece of heat shrink tube, preshrunk, to do this. You might also want a suitably large socket to use to press the bearing carrier into the cover. Its all straightforward, and the biggest problem people have is getting the kickstart to work again, gotta make sure it all goes in right. And don't forget the O ring for the coolant return, some have been known to leave it out, or damage it.
There is a seal under the css, and simple enought to replace after removing the sprocket, retained by a circlip.
Steve
There is a seal under the css, and simple enought to replace after removing the sprocket, retained by a circlip.
Steve
Members please direct all enquiries about weephole kits to my new email [email protected] the old priorperformace email will be closing soon.ORANGEBERG said:
Regards ORANGEBERG
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australia
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mid north coast nsw australia
currently rebuilding and 05 550 notice that has a weep hole kit installed was talking to previous owner said has had three bearings fail. must be something not right have check inner bearing seems fine but will be replacing all bearings in motor. new bearing for weephole is a lot smaller than standard anyone else having problems with the bearing
cheers spudo
cheers spudo
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