Probably not going to happen, but who knows. Tell us about your TTX stuff, vs. the WP.
nothing more to add to my previous short review,besides that one click means a lot here-I am still trying different combinations around OEM specs. CSC 10,REb12,Comp12, fork:reb/com 15.....as I said, I am still building confidence in the whole bike's behavior-looks very promising suspension wise....not so promising in rider's performance though :mrgreen:
Bushie, you have been into TTX shocks yet...what might need some tweaking for single track?....1 click on CSC means a lot and this influences REB/COMP by 2 more (+1 on CSC i need to loose REb -2 to achieve the same feeling).....same for the cartridges....OEm REB is 15 out-at 14 it packs, at 16 it is a bit too wild........Don't get me wrong-I love the stuff, but I also love to destroy expensive parts (read "improving ") :mrgreen:
Joined Jun 2007
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south east WA Australia
they are sensitive. there is also the temperature comphensation built into the CSC needle that you need to get your head around, ride hard enough and the shock gets stiffer after it heats up then slow down and after about 30 seconds it softens up, the difference is about 1/2 a CSC click, it is an advantage IMO but does make it more difficult to dial in at first.
I have the best success with the CSC wound in more and the reb/comp wound out than the other way around, I think because I need a stiff LS for my terrain.
the problem with the fork rebound is nothing unexpected and is something i've seen in just about every single set of forks/ shock Ive ever seen, even those with $1000+ revalves on them. to fix it you can adjust the rebound stack on the main piston for softer LS stiffer HS, sometimes a stiff single stage stack that lets you run the clciker further out helps too.
with the TTX though there is an oppourtunity to dial this out, as long as the balance between reb/comp on the main piston is about right all you need to do on the forks is try running the CSC out a bit more try 3-5 clicks softer and then wind the REB/comp adjusters in, that softens the LS rebound and stiffens the HS rebound, what you might find is that the LS comp is then too soft and need to tweak the stack.
what does the guy you bought them off have to say? there may be another way to adjust them that helps.
to make the CSC adjuster less sensitive you could try a 0.8mm bleed hole in the main piston. my thread "ohlins TTX shock" has some pics of some other stuf you could have a go at if you feel like really changing things.
I have the best success with the CSC wound in more and the reb/comp wound out than the other way around, I think because I need a stiff LS for my terrain.
the problem with the fork rebound is nothing unexpected and is something i've seen in just about every single set of forks/ shock Ive ever seen, even those with $1000+ revalves on them. to fix it you can adjust the rebound stack on the main piston for softer LS stiffer HS, sometimes a stiff single stage stack that lets you run the clciker further out helps too.
with the TTX though there is an oppourtunity to dial this out, as long as the balance between reb/comp on the main piston is about right all you need to do on the forks is try running the CSC out a bit more try 3-5 clicks softer and then wind the REB/comp adjusters in, that softens the LS rebound and stiffens the HS rebound, what you might find is that the LS comp is then too soft and need to tweak the stack.
what does the guy you bought them off have to say? there may be another way to adjust them that helps.
to make the CSC adjuster less sensitive you could try a 0.8mm bleed hole in the main piston. my thread "ohlins TTX shock" has some pics of some other stuf you could have a go at if you feel like really changing things.
Bushie,
no CSC on the forks...I tried with 11 out CSC (10 OEM) on the shock and 10/10 comp/reb (12/12 OEM) and I noticed the nervous front end was gone....there is still more chassis movement which i don't like, however for single track it sounds good....may be now was the time to play with REb on the forks....with the stiffer shock setting there was a tendency to pack....I hope tomorrow will show.....do you suggest me going more in on the shock's reb/comp?....and how about playing with rear sag (now is 30-33 static)...someone said that for Ohlins you have to be standing on the pegs...just collecting test ideas
no CSC on the forks...I tried with 11 out CSC (10 OEM) on the shock and 10/10 comp/reb (12/12 OEM) and I noticed the nervous front end was gone....there is still more chassis movement which i don't like, however for single track it sounds good....may be now was the time to play with REb on the forks....with the stiffer shock setting there was a tendency to pack....I hope tomorrow will show.....do you suggest me going more in on the shock's reb/comp?....and how about playing with rear sag (now is 30-33 static)...someone said that for Ohlins you have to be standing on the pegs...just collecting test ideas
Joined Jun 2007
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CSC on the forks is the "rebound" adjuster underneath..
the shock just fiddle with the adjustments till it works, the rebound setup seems very good at not packing and not launching regardless of the settings compared to other shocks.
the shock just fiddle with the adjustments till it works, the rebound setup seems very good at not packing and not launching regardless of the settings compared to other shocks.
report for Bushie:
1.shock: Stock specs are CSC 10 reb/comp 12 out....i was playing with CSC 8-11...however CSC 11 reb/comp10 seem to be the best all around....I had nasty climb and CSC at 9 helped me like a magic....the downhill-well, I had to go to 11....shock is more or less always OK
2. fork: stock specs are 15 reb/comp ......I decided to go 16 REB-this stuff is like you said-CSC like-the fork become very alive and stayed nicely up in the stroke...I went to 18-20 comp to make it work, however there is a visible difference from 15 to 16 out REB- I did not like it-I have no real control over it.(might have to counteract with the shock,however still have no idea).....at 14 reb it packs ...so I stopped at 15 reb
I am very convinced that rear tire always had a lot to do with the handling of this bike. I am running 19 in. rim with Maxxis SI 120/90/19....this tire is very good for my tubliss, however its height really can easily be felt...the front starts to oversteer and is nervous...My intention is to replace with Pirelli Extra 110/90/19...there is some 0.7in. difference
I also checked the pressure in TTX cartridges-50 psi...how about that? I have no information?
I am really open to proceed as Guinea Pig!
1.shock: Stock specs are CSC 10 reb/comp 12 out....i was playing with CSC 8-11...however CSC 11 reb/comp10 seem to be the best all around....I had nasty climb and CSC at 9 helped me like a magic....the downhill-well, I had to go to 11....shock is more or less always OK
2. fork: stock specs are 15 reb/comp ......I decided to go 16 REB-this stuff is like you said-CSC like-the fork become very alive and stayed nicely up in the stroke...I went to 18-20 comp to make it work, however there is a visible difference from 15 to 16 out REB- I did not like it-I have no real control over it.(might have to counteract with the shock,however still have no idea).....at 14 reb it packs ...so I stopped at 15 reb
I am very convinced that rear tire always had a lot to do with the handling of this bike. I am running 19 in. rim with Maxxis SI 120/90/19....this tire is very good for my tubliss, however its height really can easily be felt...the front starts to oversteer and is nervous...My intention is to replace with Pirelli Extra 110/90/19...there is some 0.7in. difference
I also checked the pressure in TTX cartridges-50 psi...how about that? I have no information?
I am really open to proceed as Guinea Pig!
Joined Jun 2007
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south east WA Australia
hey its great to have an adjuster that actually does something, on the TTX you get 3 
have you tried different settings on the shock for reb and comp ie CSC 10 reb 10 comp 12 ?
one advantage is you can change the balance between rebound and compression with the "extenal" adjusters
have you tried different settings on the shock for reb and comp ie CSC 10 reb 10 comp 12 ?
one advantage is you can change the balance between rebound and compression with the "extenal" adjusters
just a quick addition: yesterday I replaced the tire with Pirelli Extra 110/90/19...everything being equal to previous day.I cannot believe how those 2 cm. make such a difference in Husaberg!!!!..today will try some different setups
Bushie, to me it is still unclear how come 16 out REb on the fork ARE So different than 15... 8O
BTW the pressure in TTX cart. is supposed to be 4-5 bar.
Bushie, to me it is still unclear how come 16 out REb on the fork ARE So different than 15... 8O
BTW the pressure in TTX cart. is supposed to be 4-5 bar.
another update: I rode the bike with CSC10 COMP11-12 REB 7!!!!! it felt good on high gear terrain....it, however suffered the slower,technical stuff...fork was REB14 COMP 13......It has something to do with REB on this bike..I need time to figure it out
We are running a standard rear shock fitted with all the sxs internals which has been set for supermoto,absolutely perfect,front forks are full 52mm factory WP ones and they are in a different class to most front forks. would be interseted to hear how the ohlins are working at supermoto .
Joined Jun 2005
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Kings Farth
Is this that fancy french air spring shock?
It's not really upside down ist it?, it's the air spring at the bottom making it look upside down.
I think that a shock air spring would benefit from a sub tank so that the entire air volume heats not up with the shock. Some of the excess air can seep out to the sub tank as it expands in the shock air spring with increasing temperature.
But maybe not needed in supermoto being relatively fast and not so shock action intense?
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