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Live to the coil

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gre99y

Joined Dec 2008
30 Posts | 0+
Sunny Glasgow
Hi All
Justa quickie..... Bike is in a Yamaha dealers near me for a new battery and he says the wiring is a mess - Judging by conversation and past encounters I dont think he knows what he is doing. Should the coil on an 02 FC470 have a permanent live?
Cheers
gre99y
 
would say.............no, he doesnt know what he is doing, go pick your bike up and fit battery yourself, dead easy, my sister could do it
 
what is so difficult about a new friggin battery fer goodness sakes!

yes the wiring is a mess on all husabergs up near the coil and earth carousel but really!!!! what's he doing up there? you want a battery not a heart transplant? that bike was as fit a s a butchers dog 3 months ago. i asked him if he wanted the sprague and freewheel upgrading and he said "no, it's fine!" and to be fair - it was!

regards

Taffy
 
Hi All (Taffy)
After trying to charge the battery I discovered the terminal on the live was loose so I took it to the shop for a new battery and to have the terminal fixed - its been a catalouge of f**k ups since.
Phoned him with the battery make and model the day before I took the bike to him - when I arrived it was not only not charged but he had lost the model number.
They phoned me asking if it had a kill switch?
Then asked me when was the last time it was ridden when I rode it to the shop.
He mentioned it had cut out and I went off on one explaining it had had 2 engine rebuilds in the past 6 hours use and the issue was not the running of the bike - he says its to do with the constant live to the coil and that this will flatten the battery within a week. Then he explained that they had not had it running as the estart button was not working. I had to expalin that the estart should only be used as a restart and the bike should really be warm before trying to use the restart!!!!!!
This is a dealer with 2 Husabergs in his showroom grrrrrrrrrrrr!
I only didnt do the work as i have a busy couple of weeks and for lazyness took it to the shop thinking its a quick fix and new battery for £50-60.
He is currently looking for a broken wire to the restart button.
2 bloody days its taken!
Cheers
 
BTW Taffy-
It is definately as fit as a butchers dog it is running sweet after a plug oil and filter change and over the past week ive had more fun than on the gixxer 1000!!!!!
 
grasstrackpete said:
how gome 2 builds in 6 hours
Click to expand...

Apparrently Taffy done it then the owner broke it and re done it? Well thats what i'm presuming as Taffy said on my very first post the owner he rebuilt it for called him shortly after asking advice on another rebuild. The guy I bought it off done 3 hours on it and ive done about the same.

Thanks for the offer Pete.
Cheers
 
There is a grey wire going to the CDI/coil on the '02 estart model that tells the CDI whether to be in the Hi or Low spark advance curve. Does it switch to 12V or to ground through the Hi/Lo switch? I can't tell from the wiring diagram but I suspect it should switch to ground. If it does switch to 12V and the dealer has not found the switch yet, that could be the "permanent live" he is talking about.

If he has disconnected the start relay solenoid and somehow got the start button stuck on, the blue/white on the CDI/coil would be permanently live. You almost gotta align the planets to get it to happen but....

If the terminals on the back of the keyswitch had been pulled off and mixed up it is possible the orange kill wire is betting connected to 12V. I doubt the bike would go at all if it was this though. The kill circuit normally runs at a couple of hundred volts.

Did he mention which wire he thought was live?
 
RE: Re: RE: Live to the coil

there are lives all over the bike. it's the earths you have to look for! does this idjut not know that?

yes i rebuilt it and it was fine, he insisted on the HC piston which i think makes them too fickle.

anyway, he calls me one afternoon at 3pm and asks for a new set of triple clamps: "because i've been pulling wheelies and stoppies all afternoon and just went into a wall doing a stoppie too late!". two hours later he called again asking for advice on a rebuild as he had felt the piston/rings "nip".

so he did the newxt rebuild and immediately stuck it on ebay.

i wrote to "scoot" who is long forgotten here and mentioned the registration suffix and sure enough it's his old bike and i fitted a keihin FCR to it and bored it to 41mm, jetted it the lot. that thing will go like phuck.

what i did say to him was that the gearing MUST be right otherwise these 470 engines just can't take it. if you can get them flat out in 6th the gearing is wrong. full stop.

back to the subject, this sounds like a real mess for 9r399y

regards

Taffy
 
RE: Re: RE: Live to the coil

Just a quick update - apparently its the starter solenoid.
Bike has now been in for a week!
Anyone any idea how much one of these costs?
Cheers
 
Can he be more specific with exactly is what is wrong with the solenoid (start relay).

Pretty much can only be one of a few things: coil disconnected or burnt out; burnt/dirty/ant splattered spread-eagled across the main swtching contacts; the moving armature part is stuck in either to on or off position. Whatever way, it he can't tell you exactly what is wrong, don't throw your money at it for him to "try" things in the hope he gets lucky. Get him to tell you what evidence he has found that the solenoid is stuffed.

Assuming it is the solenoid and you like to tinker, the solenoid can be pulled apart and most faults repaired. Can't help with new OEM price, but if you are happy to dick about to save money, almost any solenoid about that size could be made to fit.
 

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