Taff,
Tis a very valid and interesting question. Never really thought about the:
"we don't get much knowledge handed in by dealers and i'm sure on the one hand they don't want people to think they go wrong and on the other they don't want to EVER be marked down for their knowledge or lack of"
That's a really good point. I'd agree, it might be taken wrong if people only see a part of the argument. As for orangeberg, no clue what you're talking about. I haven't read it nor remember if I had. But, it would be nice to know if someone isn't good, right? Or at least know why. At the same time, it is nice to know you can defend yourself. There are ways of doing that tactfully without harm.
But the point of the topic. Is the UHE good for business? Yes. It adds value. Maybe a couple of dealers get burned, maybe the brand gets burned. I'm sure more good has come from this site than bad, by far. And don't forget, free advertising. How much is free? Nothing, nada, ziltch. Which begs the question, should Husaberg to simply
ship Json a bike for all the effort he has put in. But, if he gets one, then shouldn't Dale for the time he's put into the bike, and so forth...
I'm sure the swedes know perfectly well about this sight. But, they have jobs too. Keeping an eye on it, and reading every post are different things. They can gleen some good info by just keeping an eye. These guys are innovating, not reading forums. I bet the Austrians are more abreast of this sight than the Swedes, due the current nasty state of affairs in the European moto politics. It's probably some dude in marketing that logs on as anonymous every day from headquarters whose job it is to read forums. That's all it takes, and a memo of post every week.
You also have to notice that Husaberg does nothing to quiet this site, right? (I think that's a European way, right?)
Good trivia:
I'm curious about the exact numbers, but estimate that about 5% of the 3510 listed members at least keep an eye, 2% know exactly whats going on (in the forum politics and daily how-to questions). The rest just use it as a source of info. Find dealers, figure out how to do the valves right the first time, classifieds, post pics, etc...
Taff, are you challenging the factory to a fight? Forum v. Factory: 2008 Man, you brits sure like a good scuffle, huh? :lol: These guys aren't experts on everything, their engineers. It's about iteration, teamwork, sitting in front of a CAD station for weeks at a time moving pins by millimeters, talking with vendors, keeping a spreadsheet with the cost in big red bold numbers at the bottom of a huge Bill-of-material. It's not necessarily about being a pro at tuning the carb, or knowing exactly what shims are needed in the shock. But, yes, there is (at least) one genius: Jens Elmwall
The nerd behind it all. (I'd love to see a tolerance study spreadsheet, nerd begging here Jens!) Mind dropping by once in a while for a little Forum v. Factory action?
-Parsko