Increase MPG's?

bump! I'm actually honestly really interested in what MPG you're getting wolfster

I use a WEGO III, it logs TPS RPM and AFR

there is also the innovate unit

Wolfy said:

On the 570, I'm seeing about 35-37 MPG. Flogging the bike in open desert I see 35. Steady and slow on the trails, I get 37. There isn't much of a mileage variation between slow single track, or WTFO hare scrambles.

Now the bike was re flashed when I bought it since they threw on a Leo slip on, but I'm almost positive it was just to richen up a few points across the board.

Does the software allow to data log? Or tune only on a Dyno?

If I can data log, then the tuning could be endless, or at least until I break something.

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If you're talking about the ktm ust yes it does log a multitide of data but Ive never had success logging the afr with the factory wideband sensor, for this I used the wego and found that afr, tps and rpm were sufficient to tune my modified combination.

Wolfy said:

On the 570, I'm seeing about 35-37 MPG. Flogging the bike in open desert I see 35. Steady and slow on the trails, I get 37. There isn't much of a mileage variation between slow single track, or WTFO hare scrambles.

Now the bike was re flashed when I bought it since they threw on a Leo slip on, but I'm almost positive it was just to richen up a few points across the board.

Does the software allow to data log? Or tune only on a Dyno?

If I can data log, then the tuning could be endless, or at least until I break something.

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That's lower MPG than I've seen mentioned, for sure I'd think.

Anyone have any ideas what could be causing it?

Blockages in pumps / injectors, can they cause this? Slightly off sensors?

Could the accelerator pump setting have been squeezed up a little too high with the UST maybe?

tourist said:

That's lower MPG than I've seen mentioned, for sure I'd think.

Anyone have any ideas what could be causing it?

Blockages in pumps / injectors, can they cause this? Slightly off sensors?

Could the accelerator pump setting have been squeezed up a little too high with the UST maybe?

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Holy *****! that MPG is what my old RC51 got something is gotta be outta whack.

my 570 is a gas-guzzler! in 'Taff's racing season' at the beginning of 2011 I think it was I did a season opener on my new mo-sheen and ran out of fuel while leading in the morning. it was heavy going but it couldn't even do 1.5 hours.

in the afternoon it was drier and it finished with a litre to spare. my 400 could do the same with about 3 litres to spare. my record was over 4 hours racing if I recall on one 9 litre tank.

it's important to remember that I lambasted those that said that Fi was the be-all-and-end-all as I knew it wasn't. from the off it was going to be better yet this web site is littered with people with various DNS or DNF ailments and they don't even know where to start to look.

the bloody codes are a waste of time. they tell you, you have a problem but they don't tell you where you have a problem.

EFi might get better in the future, and that is the point, it has the potential to be a lot better.

I come from muddier climbs than most and when the bikes are wet and don't work WTF are you supposed to make of it in the middle of a forest?

Taffy

Taffy said:

my 570 is a gas-guzzler! in 'Taff's racing season' at the beginning of 2011 I think it was I did a season opener on my new mo-sheen and ran out of fuel while leading in the morning. it was heavy going but it couldn't even do 1.5 hours.

in the afternoon it was drier and it finished with a litre to spare. my 400 could do the same with about 3 litres to spare. my record was over 4 hours racing if I recall on one 9 litre tank.

it's important to remember that I lambasted those that said that Fi was the be-all-and-end-all as I knew it wasn't. from the off it was going to be better yet this web site is littered with people with various DNS or DNF ailments and they don't even know where to start to look.

the bloody codes are a waste of time. they tell you, you have a problem but they don't tell you where you have a problem.
EFi might get better in the future, and that is the point, it has the potential to be a lot better.

I come from muddier climbs than most and when the bikes are wet and don't work WTF are you supposed to make of it in the middle of a forest?

Taffy

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Brilliant Fella.........

The codes are a waste of time they tell you where but not what. Holly crap that was the stupidest thing I have ever heard from a supposed bike technician?????
No codes on anything tell you what is wrong. Codes are meant to give the technician a direction to follow and an idea of what is failing. You then need to use your skill and training to follow a series of test to pinpoint the problem.

I just love these guys who think scan tools and flash codes tell you what you need to fix?? Your skill set is what finds the problem, not the code or tool.

I bet when you see an obd code, you just replace the part that shows on the scan tool and hope for the best. A piece of advise to you is to go to school and actually learn what the job of a tech is and how to do it.

funniest thing I have read by Taff who claims to have skill set ????????

Now look herev ********, that point was made to point out to those that think Fi is great that it doesn't help you solve the problem. the mechanic has to do the work.

luckily, I do have the skill set and I do always get the job done, cheaply and efficiently.

one guy came to us last year, head spent 1,400 gbp with Gearfor and they still hadn't found it. they'd used KTMs tech whizz guys, they used their bells and whistles machines and we found it in three hours and it cost him with the parts 300 quid.

a numpty skull thicko like you isn't even in the phuqin bike trade to tell anyone anything.

you've proved countless times that you daren't put anything on the line.

YOU SIR, WOULD BE THE VERY FIRST TO REPALCE EVERYTHING

get a life and phuq off back under your rock.

Taffy

Wow, damn, I am now going to be telephoning every single parts and service lead for Husaberg in the ******* world and assembling it into a handy directory. I will also document every case I can find of you crossing the line and document it to make sure it doesn't get lost. I will now also read whole ******* engineering manuals just to be able to shove that **** back down your throat. I am so angry my hands are shaking and let me assure you that energy will be used to hunt you.

Until you learn manners and then it will stop.

We both know I won't be able to serve justice on my own, but we also both know I won't be working alone.

Taffy said:

Now look herev ********, that point was made to point out to those that think Fi is great that it doesn't help you solve the problem. the mechanic has to do the work.

luckily, I do have the skill set and I do always get the job done, cheaply and efficiently.

one guy came to us last year, head spent 1,400 gbp with Gearfor and they still hadn't found it. they'd used KTMs tech whizz guys, they used their bells and whistles machines and we found it in three hours and it cost him with the parts 300 quid.

a numpty skull thicko like you isn't even in the phuqin bike trade to tell anyone anything.

you've proved countless times that you daren't put anything on the line.

YOU SIR, WOULD BE THE VERY FIRST TO REPALCE EVERYTHING

get a life and phuq off back under your rock.

Taffy

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LMAO, Nope not everything just the jetting Bahahahahaahahahahahaha, Fella its the jets and runnin rich. I bet that is the sign over your door. Hahahahahahahahahaha

My rock shakes every time you post something stupid, so it wakes me to look and comment.

Nope not in the bike trade as went far above it and continued my education to ensure ones like you don't take advantage of innocent peoples pocket books.

Just cause I am new to this site does not mean that I am going anywhere, just have some extra time as I am semi retired at an early age and like to help others and once again ride a Husa.

I am sure lots think FI is great as every race bike and car uses it and wins with it. Just because you are not educated with anything but jetting in carburation does not mean that it is not the way of the future. FI has been almost been around from day one for use in the internal combustion engine, I am thinking 1901 but have not taught this in a few years so I could be wrong but know it is close, proven to work both in the Chevrolets and they VW in the late 50's and 60's and still here today bolder and better. Almost every automobile stopped using carbs in the 1980's for a reason. If we really look at the whole picture, FI has nothing to do with blinking codes as it was around prior computers. The pcm/ecm is the reason for the codes as it maps the system to ensure everything is working as well adjusting everything by the millisecond. So with this being said, the obd system is a godsend to help with a direction for the tech or user to figure out.

I gonna tell ya right now fella, every stupid thing you post will be verified by comment and I don't need to research much as I instructed all this **** to students such as yourself.

I didn't start this **** with you, but sure can finish it.
You laid into me for giving info to a fellow user and trying to help, and you just didn't like that did ya. Forums are for people to help one another, not to sell your magic beans and give advise to ensure un-expecting users shop with you via your advise.
I just might of shopped at your store when I first came to this site as I spend tons of money on parts. You directed me far away for your store with your first comment. Some business sense you have now isn't it. LMAO

this is an example of your technical input and don't talk to anyone here about how bright you are after this:

http://husaberg.org/wheels-tires/20498-what-size-front-tyre.html

quoting old 60s tyre sizes to people? is that how technically advanced you are?

you need to pull your horns in fella

Taffy

Taffy said:

this is an example of your technical input and don't talk to anyone here about how bright you are after this:

http://husaberg.org/wheels-tires/20498-what-size-front-tyre.html

quoting old 60s tyre sizes to people? is that how technically advanced you are?

you need to pull your horns in fella

Taffy

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OMG Taffy lmao, I actually think this was a post I agreed with you lol. I actually agreed with you advise on Mitas tires. As for the sizing *******, They still sell tires in both Alpha and Metric and all I was doing is educating a fellow UHF user as he was curious to size. So I attached a chart nothing more. If you actually read his post you would see the sizes he was mentioning.

Hi all have Husaberg 600fe 1993 has brand new rear tyre 120/9018 Michelin font is old Dunlop part worn so ordering new Michelin the original tyre is 90/90/21 was think of putting and mh3 80/100/21 will it look odd ??? Or should I try get a 90/90/21

Taffy or Daffy? The numbers have nothing to do with endure or mx. You can buy a street 90/90 21. It is width profile rim dia. enduro fix or mx fit ???? I gave the chart for him to understand the actual reality and the theory behind the numbers and nothing more, so he understands how to figure out what it would look like as per the question he asked. The actual difference in look was a quarter inch as well.

Once again, Thanks for your excellent services Taffy. Maybe you should learn a little theory or stick to selling magic beans lol

Taffy again what one was the enduro tire and what was the mx tire? Got pictures of both the 90/90 21 and the 80/100 21 just cant seem to figure out what one is to go on my enduro?

Now Taffy I think we both have spent enough time with this stupid ego trip.
It is time we went back to actually helping others and spending our time in more productive ways.

I have the right just as you have to help users and give advise. I don't think I know everything but will comment on what I do and my with my opinion, even if you don't agree.

You nor I know everything and it don't matter how long or how many posts you have done, someone will always know more or something different. It does not make you an expert just because you have posted more and spent your whole life on a forum and I a new user to this site.

Bottom line is we can both help as well others who have excellent knowledge and great input. the end user is who can take all info received and put it together.

I really like reading the posts and educating myself as each day I learn something new or a different way to do something and that's great, this is what makes each day a new learning experience.

Truce or not, your call!

I am seeing a similar problem on my 2013 FE 501. I went from 46 mpg down to 33 mpg. I did discover after I threw a new top end in it that the TPS was cranked all the way to the right which put it at .800 on the meter.