Johnf3 said:
schwim said:
If you could, would you please burn a cellphone along with it? I've met a lot idiots on a cellphone and I figure since we're doing things on principal, we should just consolidate our expressions of disgust. It will save us big bucks in gas and burning permits.
thanks,
json
Cell phones don't ruin single track, though.
I am with Colby. Quads have ruined great singletrack in many places. Take the stereotypical quad rider (backwards hat with goggles, beer cooler strapped to rack, etc) out of the equation if you must. The fact remains that because of their physical size, even responsible and rule abiding quad riders ruin single track, and in short order.
The advent of the two seater hillbilly charriots like Rhinos, Rangers, etc have made it even worse. The mountain trails around Cloudcroft, NM which were built by motorcycles 30 years ago, have all turned into a quad playground. What they can't traverse easily they just winch up. Disgusting, really.
I realize that the off road community collectively does not need to be in-fighting. I mean, we have enough outside enemies as is. However, some moderation and thought about quad access would be prudent while there are bits of single track left.
Now back to the Husaberg quad discussion....
Two cents worth here,
In the Kennedy Meadows area where I ride during the summer there are no quads allowed on the single track, and the USFS rangers are pretty strict about enforcing that rule, IE they don't allow them to be off of the trailer or out of the truck in the campgrounds where you can ride out of. Saw some people get busted there once for that, and not only did they get ticketed, but, they got kicked out of the area. The only place you can ride quads there is on some of the jeep roads.
In the Desert, at least where I ride, on BLM land, most of the quad riders I see are at least helmeted and goggled. Lot's of family trains too. In the state parks like Gorman, the idiots abound and the rangers are having a field day with enforcement activities. I truly believe that the 2% rule applies here, about 2% of the people mess it up for everyone else. A prime example is Ozzy Osbourne, remember when he pasted himself on one? Just about killed himself if memory serves.
In the Desert Scramble events, I end up having to pass however many quads are in the race, which is, interesting to say the least. But most quad racers are cool about letting you by in the tight stuff when you come up on them.
Fact of the matter is that section of the OHV market has been growing at 20% for the last 8 or 10 years. And guess what? Everyone can get on a quad and ride, but not everyone can get on a bike and ride it.
Funny you guys should mention Cloud Croft, I just came from that area. Have you thought about trying to get any of the single track designated as motorcycle only? I mean at least this would stop the destruction of the remaining single track, if there is any.
A couple of years back I got a promotional DVD from Polaris I think, and I have to admit that I found their utility quad appealing. It had all sorts of cool stuff on it from a small chain saw scabbord, to a fold out table on the back with an embedded cooking stove on the back. I thought it would have been cool for an adventure sort of thing to go back in the mountains on old logging/jeep roads and camp out far from anyone. But, alas, there is no quad in my garage.
Pollo, I don't think anyone meant anything personal with their comments try not to take it that way. I'm sure everyone here has appreciated your inside info on the 09's, and other posts you have made.
As far as burning things, I only burn the things the leprechaun tells me to
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