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Honest Question

Joined Jul 2001
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El Sobrante, Ca. 94803
I really want to know:

As an owner and / or enthusiast why the rush to make Husaberg "main stream"?

Seriously, if you are not profiting from increased revenue via bikes, parts and / or accessories what is your personal agenda regarding increased exposure?

According to general consensus:
Current parts availability is top notch as are the motorcycles.

Is such not just exactly what you originally dreamed of?

Now you want "main stream". Why?

Is not owning something different part of the attraction?

Truthfully speaking, I am in no real hurry to see Husaberg grow any further as I believe such will only make them just another option as opposed to something mysterious and exotic.


Dale
 
I personnaly do not want or expect Husaberg to be main stream. I would like to see some success stories that would hopefully equate to increased resale value. I would like to see the bike become a desirable object to possess rather than one with all the stigmatism's attached.
I want people to know it's alright to buy my used Husaberg so that I can buy a new one every once and awhile. Is that so wrong??

That's as honest as I can get. I am already sold on the bikes.
 
berger said:
I personnaly do not want or expect Husaberg to be main stream. I would like to see some success stories that would hopefully equate to increased resale value. I would like to see the bike become a desirable object to possess rather than one with all the stigmatism's attached.
I want people to know it's alright to buy my used Husaberg so that I can buy a new one every once and awhile. Is that so wrong??

That's as honest as I can get. I am already sold on the bikes.

As their is neither right nor wrong to the question such is indeed a great answer.

Husaberg was attractive as they manufactured an "all business, light weight and very powerful race engine" .

The AMA made the mistake of telling me such an engine would never be competitive in dirttrack competition.

Simple:
I was told it could never work and I decided it would be fun to prove otherwise.

Five years and a couple of hundred thousand dollars later my point was proven and life moved on.

I stick around:
First because I can!
Second, because it is often amusing to watch history repeat itself.

Dale
 
That's a good questiion Dale.

I personally am not wishing Husaberg to be "mainstream" per se but it would be great to see Husaberg taken more seriously by some top name racers as it was in the early years.

It would give alot of us great pride to see Husaberg take podium finishes in a Super Moto or Endurocross races on television and do so in a consistent manner. As it is, there seems to be little or no exposure at any "big" race whatsoever. (I'm thinking BMG is working on this fact and I know it takes alot of investment). A guy showing up at a big race on a Berg and walking away with 19th place or a DNF has a negative effect. I think it's okay to want to feel pride in the brand many of us have stood by through thick and thin.

Husaberg's success via exposure would go a long way in the success of BMG and the many dealers who have signed on here in North America. I'd like to know that BMG is selling every one of their alotted units and that dealers are pumped up about when the next shipment of blue and yellow's are coming in. We hear of many guys picking up leftover units at bargain prices (which is okay when it's my turn for a new bike) :D , but wouldn't it be great to know that the only "new bikes" available are current models.

Bottom line for me:
I think Husabergs are fantastic bikes and I simply want them to be around for a long while.

Log
 
Berger... dito
logjump....dito.

I go out and see what has become of KTM today as opposed to 1999 or 2000 and it is crazy. My biggest fear is that Husaberg would prove to be a non-profit company or even worse, a liability, and be tossed to the wolves to be picked apart, phased out, or like the first company, moved to a different country and loose its soul... its heart. This is a cake and eat it two kind of question... can't have one without the other. I liked Husaberg on the Udde peninsula in a cow shed but then again we wouldn't have the parts we have now if KTM hadn't taken things over now would we? Damned if you do, damned if you don't......

Regards,
 
I agree 100% with my friend DALE.Berg is not a bike for all the people.its only for choosens.
 
logjump said:
I'd like to know that BMG is selling every one of their alotted units and that dealers are pumped up about when the next shipment of blue and yellow's are coming in. We hear of many guys picking up leftover units at bargain prices (which is okay when it's my turn for a new bike) :D , but wouldn't it be great to know that the only "new bikes" available are current models.

Log

We are currently sold out of all but 2006 bikes :D
Some dealers do have earlier model bikes on the floor, but not many.
My informed opinion is that we will greatly exceed our allotment this year.
Positive media exposure is the most efficient means to increase our sales numbers. Our exposure in the media has done nothing but improve and increase. Working with the motorcycle media in creative ways is the absolute best dollar for dollar investment that we can make, in my opinion.

Racing is great, but in order to get media exposure from it, we'd have to do really really well at it. Grassroots (amateur) racing is a good long-term investment that will pay off over time. One day, I hope to see lots of our custom-designed race tents lined up in a row at every race I attend. Will we ever be "mainstream" ? No way. I'd be happy with 50% growth in sales every year :)

Cheers,

Brett Saunders
 
Owning something different is indeed part of the allure. Now that the bikes are so good, that's even better. As a new (er) Husaberg owner, it was a combination of both these things that sold me.

With the product that Husaberg has now, more widestream acceptance is inevitable. Instead of being the only Husaberg lined up at an enduro with 300 other bikes, maybe in the future there will be three or four bergs.

I can live with that.
 
This is a good thread...

When I bought my Berg back in 02, the fact it was exotic was a minor factor. I was looking for lightweight/e-start/green sticker purpose built offroad bike. The only other real option with this criteria (at that time) was the KTM. The KTM's were few and far between given the demand for them. They were also fetching about a $1000 dollars more than the Berg! So Husaberg won out...

That being said - I have always been a fan of the Berg. It's relative market share is only consequential. I like the passion it exudes, the willingness to be different in the pursuit of excellence (to size it up in a tidy cliche!)

Motorcycling is about passion IMO. Nobody needs one. Our cars are bought for their reliability to take us where we need to go. Our bikes (in most cases) are more in the pursuit of something organic - i.e. it is for thrills.

Now, would I like to see Husaberg become more mainstream? Well again I think that would be more a matter of consequence of my desire to see the passion/excellence of Husaberg rewarded. I have been fed to the teeth watching mediocrity rewarded! It seems to be a recurring theme, and it is for the most part, most sickening in this sport. Is sport about mediocrity?


As it stands now I see Husaberg resting on it's laurels from past greatness. I don't know if this is by design from KTM or what, but I would love to see the potential utilised (back in the race world). It would help return my confidence in the brand. Racing is where R&D occurs. How does Husey improve, compare, in a meaningful way with the competition while it is not out there grinding on their bikes?

It is hard to get excited about a bike (which is the reason for it's existence to my mind) when the manufacture does little showing it's own excitement!
 
I like Berger want resale value of my used berg to be up a bit and I also want a larger tank. Those are the only two things that I really want that would come with more positive exsposure of the brand and more units being sold.
 
LINEAWEAVER said:
I really want to know:

As an owner and / or enthusiast why the rush to make Husaberg "main stream"?

Truthfully speaking, I am in no real hurry to see Husaberg grow any further as I believe such will only make them just another option as opposed to something mysterious and exotic.
Dale

I think that Husaberg is already too mainstream and has been forced to cater to wealthier aging riders too much (in order to make sales). I liked the concept of the early 90's Hbg, a light weight race bike, that happened to be a 4T (and expensive). Actually, I don't care if a bike is mainstream or not, as long as it is light, great handling, and durable. From what I have read over the last year, BMG is doing exactly what everyone has wanted, except getting an Hbg dealer in every town for parts availability and better resale (and that will not happen).
 
I sometimes think a lot of the people on these types of forums have a lot in common with skateboarders and goth freak, etc. They attempt to separate themselves from mainstream society by dressing strangely, acting standoffishly and otherwise like they're shunned by the general population. In reality, what they want is recognition of their uniqueness and coolness by the same people whom they claim "don't accept them". If you buy a Husaberg just to be different, you will not be happy with it, and it will likely frustrate you and surely embarrass you when it fails to improve your image. I ride mine because it is pure technical simplicity. It satisfies my compulsion with mathematical precision, and it fits perfect with my own desires for self-suffifiency. In other words, it's me to a "T". 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
 
doctorcorey said:
I sometimes think a lot of the people on these types of forums have a lot in common with skateboarders and goth freak, etc. They attempt to separate themselves from mainstream society by dressing strangely, acting standoffishly and otherwise like they're shunned by the general population. In reality, what they want is recognition of their uniqueness and coolness by the same people whom they claim "don't accept them". If you buy a Husaberg just to be different, you will not be happy with it, and it will likely frustrate you and surely embarrass you when it fails to improve your image. I ride mine because it is "pure technical simplicity". It satisfies my compulsion with mathematical precision, and it fits perfect with my own desires for self-suffifiency. In other words, it's me to a "T". 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

You own a pre 2001 :?
 
Grassroots (amateur) racing is a good long-term investment that will pay off over time. One day, I hope to see lots of our custom-designed race tents lined up in a row at every race I attend

Any possibility of "Husaberg Bucks" in the near future? (like this Sunday)
 
LINEAWEAVER said:
doctorcorey said:
I sometimes think a lot of the people on these types of forums have a lot in common with skateboarders and goth freak, etc. They attempt to separate themselves from mainstream society by dressing strangely, acting standoffishly and otherwise like they're shunned by the general population. In reality, what they want is recognition of their uniqueness and coolness by the same people whom they claim "don't accept them". If you buy a Husaberg just to be different, you will not be happy with it, and it will likely frustrate you and surely embarrass you when it fails to improve your image. I ride mine because it is "pure technical simplicity". It satisfies my compulsion with mathematical precision, and it fits perfect with my own desires for self-suffifiency. In other words, it's me to a "T". 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

You own a pre 2001 :?

Mine is a 97, and although I have had my share of technical failures, I stick to the bike.
My reason: I have a hard time to justify the expenses for a new dirt bike in relation to the riding hours I am able to put in. And if I compare the 'bang for the buck', this bike beats most of them out there. Next to it, there sits a 2003 DRZ400E, a miracle of reliability, but by far not as much fun to ride.

Generally, I own a bike that is superior to most others (highly subjective!!), I am proud of it, and I put up with problems that simply ask for a match ... a love/hate relationship. Although I'd appreciate higher resale values, now that I ride one, I am glad that I was able to buy it for little money.

Franz
 
For sprint competition I personally prefer the pre pump engines as a foundation.

I am currently building a Husaberg 450 based on said early engine design.

We have run countless hours on pre pump 600 engines weighing a mere 50 pounds and reliably producing 60 plus RWHP.

Hence my point regarding the good doctors post. :)

Best Regards,
Dale
 
LINEAWEAVER said:
I really want to know:

As an owner and / or enthusiast why the rush to make Husaberg "main stream"?

Seriously, if you are not profiting from increased revenue via bikes, parts and / or accessories what is your personal agenda regarding increased exposure?

According to general consensus:
Current parts availability is top notch as are the motorcycles.

Is such not just exactly what you originally dreamed of?

Now you want "main stream". Why?

Is not owning something different part of the attraction?

Truthfully speaking, I am in no real hurry to see Husaberg grow any further as I believe such will only make them just another option as opposed to something mysterious and exotic.


Dale

I'd just like to make sure the dealers that have invested so much time effort and resources to there dealerships. Sales make it worth there effort! As for me I like being the only Berg in the group, except when the old 470 doesn't want to start. That show just fuels the orange crowd against Bergs. I need to get a post 04 Berg just for that reason!
 

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