"FORCE RIDE"

JoeUSA and wife are still in.

Joe

I am still good to go.

Leaving on the am of the second, hope to make it to moab same day but late at night

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I am still good to go.

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Brendan How are you getting there? I think i have my scoutmaster situation worked out but unfortunatly unklemoose has some higher priorities, so i am looking for a ride/carpool.

i'll be bringing all my jets and needles with me to help some of you lost souls out there. both dell orto and keihin.

ride on!

Taffy

Due to sheduling problems at work,I am saddened to say i will not be able to make it to the force ride.Hope it is a success ...nsman

The same thing happens with the DRN rides, as we near the actual riding date, there are a few casualties due to work and other commitments.

Anyone near risky1 that can offer a ride?

Anyone from Washington or Oregon passing through Ca?

Taffy said:

i'll be bringing all my jets and needles with me to help some of you lost souls out there. both dell orto and keihin.

ride on!

Taffy

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I hope that they aren't considered contraband with our new stricter airline safety rules. 8O

Risky 1 Can you get to the reno area? If so maybe we can work out something.

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Risky 1 Can you get to the reno area? If so maybe we can work out something.

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That is a good possibility, what day would you be leaving and coming back? Unklemooses' schedule was perfect but short for most people. I had scheduled with my assistant that she would cover for me starting on Wed and i would cover for her starting monday the next week. need to be back sunday eve sometime....

regarding sleeping config, i was planning on unklemooses' trailer so now i will need a room as well. do you have an open slot in the cabin?

I'm leaving for Moab on the 2nd early and leaving Moab on the 7th. My cabin is full as far as it goes now.

BKSAVS you still in ?

Hi Everyone,

I haven't read each and every post for the Force Ride, but from what I have read there seems to only be 1 person who has possibly been to Moab. This is not meant as a slam on anyone, but would it be of interest to anyone to think about hiring someone to guide us one day?

I sent an e-mail to Elite Tours asking about the availability of trail maps and none are available that designate motorcycle trails. I was also informed that we should stay away from Gemini Bridges, Moab Rim,Poison/Spider and Cane Springs, as these are Jeep trails with a lot of 2-way traffic. They say to visit these areas before 9am if they are destinations. These guys got a great write up in Trail rider magazine last year.

I will e-mail Elite Tours to see what they would charge. It could turn out to be the best money we spend.

This was just a thought that I wanted to throw out there.

Mike

I was going to look into that sometime this next week. It is something I have been considering as well. If you would like to "take the ball and run with it" please do. I think it would be at least a good idea to find out price and availability of a guide service.

Ken

Also check about OHV Licenses/permits that need to be purchased like our green/red stickers in Calif. If dual sported no problems.

Kraig ,Wish I could have made it!

I had an email exchange with Elite Tours back in December. Nice folks.

He said : "there are many places to ride legally. More than you can ride out in a lifetime. My advice to you is to get someone to guide you and you friends around. Even if you think that using my services is a rip-off or you feel you don't need a guide. I am NOT in this business to get rich, please believe me. Please take a look at my web sit and look at the options, I will be happy to at least show you some maps when you get here so you can have a better vacation. Any questions please feel free to call me toll free and I will be happy to talk. "
Merry Christmas, Dale Parriott

I'm going to stop by a say hi when I get there.. Maybe an organized trail ride is a good idea for one of the days. Go for it Ossaman.
Dez

i see little point in more than 6-7 riders going on the tour. 'the train' would be too long and someone would always be stopping. how about one rider going on a guided tour and then doing the same tour the next day taking a fresh set of faces around and at a more leisurly speed?

i didn't realise nobody had been before. perhaps we could let a non berg rider join in for the weekend who knows his stuff. could go to TT say for example and ask there for help. i bet you'd get plenty.

i've always found over 5-6 bikes a pain especially when genuine skills are required. we all feel bad when it's like that. the bloke struggling and the leader who's been waiting at the top for 20 minutes....

just my thoughts :evil: :evil: :evil:

sorry if they're evil-just thought i'd play devil's advocate here.

regards

Taffy

ossaman said:

would it be of interest to anyone to think about hiring someone to guide us one day?

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That decision would be an individual choice.
If you visit KtmTalk, there are ride reports from Moab. The riders all rated Moab as a 'must do'. None of them spent any money on guides because of the numbers of places to explore.

I sent an e-mail to Elite Tours asking about the availability of trail maps and none are available that designate motorcycle trails.

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I purchased three of those "none available" maps that explicitly show singletrack. In Moab, all singletrack is open to motorcycles.

As with any riding area, there are always 'hidden' trails to be explored. Moab is a little different than the Socialists' Republic of Kalifornia, There is a system of numbered trails for 2 wheels, ATV's and Jeeps. They do enforce the rules regarding singletrack being for 2 wheels only. The local bicycle shops have maps available of singletrack trails. Most information is freely exchanged. Arrowhead Motorsports is the motorcycle shop in town, he also freely shares the best places to ride.

I can guarantee 2 days of 'B' and 'C' level trail riding that will be worth the trip. I am planning to reride a couple areas that we rode last Labor Day. I also will bring my maps and you can pick your own trails if you wish.

The beauty of Moab for a first time visitor is that you cannot go wrong. It is all new trail to you. Maybe we won't ride the ultimate trail, but then even if we knew where it is, most of us probably wouldn't have the skills to conquer it. Some of their 'AA' trails require trials riding skills. Most mountain bikers CARRY their bikes through the hardest sections. I was told by veteran riders that live there that those trails are not passable on a dirt bike; they require trials bikes. Elite Tours had trials bikes for rent last summer if you are so inclined. There are 2 'A' trails that I won't be able to ride ('a man needs to know his limitations' (says Detective Callahan; aka Dirty Harry)), 8O but I can point you in the right direction.

For people that want to break off into separate groups, please bring a GPS. The slick rock terrain is deceiving in appearance and many people get lost. We got caught by a sudden storm and we got out via GPS. The storm made the trail markings disappear and the rain made visibility near zero.

Also bring your waterpacks. Even though it is in March, the climate is relatively dry. We will be in 'high desert'. Dehydration is a common problem for visitors; especially northern visitors that aren't accustomed to the desert.

Taffy said:

i see little point in more than 6-7 riders going on the tour. 'the train' would be too long and someone would always be stopping. how about one rider going on a guided tour and then doing the same tour the next day taking a fresh set of faces around and at a more leisurely speed?

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That is our experience with group rides out here. 20 riders is a long train.

If 6 or 7 guys want to ride the Elite Tour, that would be feasible, and that should reduce the cost per rider.

Don't feel that you have to buy a guided tour to have a great time.
We rode there last Labor Day Weekend, there are alot of great trails and easy to use maps.