FE650e -08 vs. FE570 -09 ?

ruostekasa · Sep 26, 2008

Hi,

Any data on FE570 motor HP numbers? I am currently riding -08 FE650 with full Akra exhaust. I am thinking of selling my bike and buying -09 570. Does anyone know what is is going to be power output difference between these tow? Will I go up or down on HP an TQ?

whosahberg · Sep 26, 2008

dont be phooled ... you dont need outright horse power , you need smooth controlable power .. mixed with suspension that allows the power you have available on tap to be delivered to the ground .

i have the 09 on order ,, does that answer your question , sir ???

Gazza · Sep 26, 2008

ruostekasa said:
Hi,

Any data on FE570 motor HP numbers? I am currently riding -08 FE650 with full Akra exhaust. I am thinking of selling my bike and buying -09 570. Does anyone know what is is going to be power output difference between these tow? Will I go up or down on HP an TQ?

There was a quote back about 4 months ago from inside the Berg R&D team that the 570 will have 70hp at the crank, thats about 7 to 8hp more than the 650 !!

Also a quote to an Aussie dealer at the factory back in early in the year when asking the question about the new motor coming out in 650cc format, the reply was "why ? the 570 is more powerful than the 650"

so it sounds like the 570 will be easy the same or more power as the 650, but it will be interesting to see how that translates to torque and power to the ground.

hmmmm only another 2 months and my 570 will be here, will then do a back to back with my '08 650 with the akra :twisted:

oyk · Sep 26, 2008

sorry if i dissapoint someone here but having ridden the 2009 models here in isde , there is not a big surprise in 570 power.
its about 55 hp maximum.

maybe in the future there will be a fs model with bigger hp figures, but 2009 fe models surely not.

pollo · Sep 26, 2008

AHA! The truth is coming out. From someone who has ridden one firsthand. 55HP not 70. Our 650s have 60+ HP depending on exhaust selection. So it seems we got a little truth stretchin from some giddy individuals. 70 HP stock? For a 570? Whats going on here? 55 seems about right.
Thanks OYK.
Pollo

Gazza · Sep 26, 2008

damn another myth busted !!!!! :wink:

Taffy · Sep 27, 2008

if someone says to you it's 70 at the crank and you get 55 at the rear on a knobbly then that's about right. you would normally lose 5-6hp for the turning and whizzing bits and the knobbly itself is terribly inefficient.

out and out BHP is very much after a certain point: about revss and the 570 has quite a long stroke.

so maybe not complete fibs but a little playing with the actualitae!

regards

Taffy

oyk · Sep 27, 2008

55hp was an estimation, surely its 50+.

my 1994 mc600 feels much stronger than the 2009 and way more agressive.

my 2008 fs650 after 5000rpms says goodbye to all.

but the 2009 handling and power delivery is pure racing enduro stuff, almost magic.
needs a bit of time though to get used to the tremendous traction and turning abilities..

Johnf3 · Sep 27, 2008

Who cares how many HP the old 650s had? The new Husabergs are a superior machine in all other aspects. Who cares if your old 650 has "more power" when you get smoked by a superior motorcycle? Besides maybe in a drag race, or a specialized desert or rally race with lots of opportunity to hold it wide open, a 650 is not an advantage.

The MXDN in England is going on right now. Ryan Villopoto on a 250F will beat the majority if not the entire field of 450s when he lines up against those riders. We are talking about the best 450 mx riders in the world. So, if they can't use the superior power to beat smaller bikes in a race, do you think you can?

I'm guess I'm just not in to specs and horsepower "on paper".

hannesd · Sep 27, 2008

it's true, figures on paper don't often mean alot.
let' just wait and see for someone to test them back to back.
but IMO the 570 wil be at least just as powerfull as the 650.
just totally different handling,lighter feel etc...

Ola · Sep 27, 2008

Power is also a fun factor... I rode a wr450f before, and now a fs650.. since i ride alot on the road (plated bike), i must say it`s ALOT more fun with the extra power in the FS650 than the 450.. Even though i might have been faster in some situations with a 450, i wouldnt change back to a 450 if i had a choice..

Not all of us is trying to win competitions.. Some just wants to have fun

Johnf3 · Sep 27, 2008

Ola said:
Power is also a fun factor... I rode a wr450f before, and now a fs650.. since i ride alot on the road (plated bike), i must say it`s ALOT more fun with the extra power in the FS650 than the 450.. Even though i might have been faster in some situations with a 450, i wouldnt change back to a 450 if i had a choice..

Not all of us is trying to win competitions.. Some just wants to have fun

That's true. I understand how much fun the bike bore bikes like the 650 can be too. I think the 570 will provide plenty of it too.

ruostekasa · Sep 27, 2008

Ola said:
Power is also a fun factor... I rode a wr450f before, and now a fs650.. since i ride alot on the road (plated bike), i must say it`s ALOT more fun with the extra power in the FS650 than the 450.. Even though i might have been faster in some situations with a 450, i wouldnt change back to a 450 if i had a choice..

Not all of us is trying to win competitions.. Some just wants to have fun

Agree 100% on this. That was main reason for me to ask this 650 vs .570.

For me driving, power, weelis is FUN. As street bike I ride GSXR1000 with MC Express turbo kit and 330 HP at crank. That also is not the fastest or best handling bike, but sure it is fun. I really like 650's instant power when driving small cravel roads. It's really handfull for me to control. First ever dirt bike to offer enough power to have fun in all situations. That I would not like to loose when moving to '09.

pollo · Sep 27, 2008

I understand that there is a difference in opinion with the 550 and 650 people here. There always have been. The 650 people like me are inclined to be somewhat proud of our Husabergs. And you 550 people, well you know how you feel and whether you hold any animosity just because you don't have the most powerful one. I personally would like to own a 550 also and think I could perform very well on one off road. I don't have any problem with the new 570 out performing the old 650. I like the idea of it putting more power to the ground, turning better and handling better. More or less HP I don't care .Even though I doubt it has more. I don't even care about a shootout. What I do care about is that they make a future 650 again. Yes I like a lot of power and that's just the way it is. The 570 may be plenty for some but I want something over the top.
Pollo

whosahberg · Sep 27, 2008

Johnf3 said:
Who cares how many HP the old 650s had? The new Husabergs are a superior machine in all other aspects. Who cares if your old 650 has "more power" when you get smoked by a superior motorcycle? Besides maybe in a drag race, or a specialized desert or rally race with lots of opportunity to hold it wide open, a 650 is not an advantage.

The MXDN in England is going on right now. Ryan Villopoto on a 250F will beat the majority if not the entire field of 450s when he lines up against those riders. We are talking about the best 450 mx riders in the world. So, if they can't use the superior power to beat smaller bikes in a race, do you think you can?

I'm guess I'm just not in to specs and horsepower "on paper".

subject ~ ryan villopoto ,, you put this guy on a 450 and see how far he wins by . horse power in the hands of a professional is a different story .

Gazza · Sep 27, 2008

Johnf3 said:
Who cares how many HP the old 650s had? Besides maybe in .......a specialized desert or rally race with lots of opportunity to hold it wide open, a 650 is not an advantage.

I'm guess I'm just not in to specs and horsepower "on paper".

well I guess that since what I do ride is desert races and rallyes the torque and power is of interest to this eager customer :twisted:

I'm keen to see if the "old" 650 is now redundant or still the one to use :?:

I'm still pretty convinced that there are few better desert or rallye bikes out there, its light weight and great power/torque characteristics are perfect for the job for the average rider, lots better in my opinion than the big 660/690's etc

SO..... one of the first things I will be doing with my 570 once its run in is run it back to back with the 650 both in the desert and on the dyno and see which comes up as the favoriate for use for next years rallyes :twisted:

Taffy · Sep 27, 2008

Gazza said:
well I guess that since what I do ride is desert races and rallyes the torque and power is of interest to this eager customer :twisted:

I'm keen to see if the "old" 650 is now redundant or still the one to use :?:

I'm still pretty convinced that there are few better desert or rallye bikes out there, its light weight and great power/torque characteristics are perfect for the job for the average rider, lots better in my opinion than the big 660/690's etc

SO..... one of the first things I will be doing with my 570 once its run in is run it back to back with the 650 both in the desert and on the dyno and see which comes up as the favoriate for use for next years rallyes :twisted:

well said gazza!

as long as it's equal i make it a better product coz it's going to get better.

are you prepared to tell the truth, nothing but the truth so help you god!

regards

Taffy

hannesd · Sep 28, 2008

yes but since most of us are not proffesionals we need the extra grunt to make up for our lack of experience

and again ,having power is fun to ride even if you don't want to be the fastest.
i'm a 550 FS rider and i tested a friends 650 and wouldn't want to change.
i'm happy with the 550.

oyk · Sep 28, 2008

Johnf3 said:
Who cares how many HP the old 650s had? The new Husabergs are a superior machine in all other aspects. Who cares if your old 650 has "more power" when you get smoked by a superior motorcycle? Besides maybe in a drag race, or a specialized desert or rally race with lots of opportunity to hold it wide open, a 650 is not an advantage.

The MXDN in England is going on right now. Ryan Villopoto on a 250F will beat the majority if not the entire field of 450s when he lines up against those riders. We are talking about the best 450 mx riders in the world. So, if they can't use the superior power to beat smaller bikes in a race, do you think you can?

I'm guess I'm just not in to specs and horsepower "on paper".

the posters question was purely in aspect of power.
every one here must show respect to any member asking something specific and not try to convice that he is a stupid human being if he cares for horse power specs.
so my answer was that specific.

besides, i do care alot because i ride tarmac besides enduro.
in supermoto trackdays power is a great factor for fun.
and fun is a great feedback for me personally when i ride my bikes.

also i would wait to test ride a bike first before i say it is superior than another bike.

some may like it some others not but i decided to buy that old 2008 650 AFTER i rode the 2009.
for my style of riding and preferences i found them very "soft".

every individual here has his own preferences and believes and as far as i am concerned i thing that many here would still love their "old" bikes after testing the new ones.
this is the reason also that some of us still keep running their 15 old husabergs.

pollo · Sep 28, 2008

Your 08 650 is money well spent oyk.
pollo

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