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Fe450e gearing for woods riding

Joined Oct 2005
687 Posts | 0+
Folsom, CA
what sprockets are you guys running for woods and the tighter off road stuff? staying with the stockers? I'm not sure of my countersprocket size, 14? but my rear is 48.

I find the bike to be very well mannered in the woods, but was surprized to find myself on some pavement last weekend to try to higher gears, doing 55+easy maybe 60 in 5th , shifting into 6th and lugging it so bad I had to down shift back into 5th, WOW thats a wide ratio tranny. With the stock gearing I'll never see 6th gear on this bike. My ride areas are 0-45 mph and that's it. I have the TE-510 for the desert

with my 06 Fe450e as is I find 1st gear is generally fine but short compared to second. If I gear it down I will be shifting sooner out of 1st but may find second to be a dream gear for my ride areas and find 1st is even better at tractoring up tight rocky nasty stuff.

My main interest is to make the bike tractor up over and up the tough stuff...but not loose the magic of the Husaberg gearing what I mean is I trust Husaberg to know better then me. That's why I'm asking this question....should I just leave the stock gearing alone or? ...I have the rear tire off and am thinking of a putting a 50 tooth rear sprocket on, that's not much of a change from a 48 to a 50, might be just enough to give the bike that little bit more tractor edge in the tight n nasty stuff,

what do you think? what gears do you guys run in the woods?
 
bob

if you are serious about woods riding then you'll forget what gearing 6th pulls. the bike is suited to 13/48 in woods. i pull 14/51 so as not to wear out the swingarm rubber protector. you might have 50cc more than me but you are also bigger than me (200lbs).

hope this helps

regards

Taffy
 
yes woods is 80% what I ride. I bought the bike for single track. I had the bike up some short length stuff like this Sunday and it seemed to do fine.

rocky climb up

13 tooth up front is stock? ok 13/48 that sounds good.

just wondered if 13/50 might be a tad better. That would be getting out there I ran 13/47 on my DRZ........I know a guy who had 13/49 on that drz, that was too much. on that bike for my tastes....but my sense with the husaberg tranny that two more teeth on back would be a small adjustment and might be a nice set up to try.

anyone else?
 
depends what your thoughts are on first gear. i, most annoyingly, have to return to it far too often which causes missed gears and neutrals. 13/49 would help some more.

make sure you get a proper front sprovcket for the bike. it has to be the right width and sit nice.

regards

Taffy
 
bigbob-

Check out the Ratios for sprocket combinations in my gallery. This may give you a good idea of what sprocket combination suits your terrain and style. Taffy made a good point that I have heard others mention before about the swing arm rubber being worn away prematurely. If this is a concern at all
maybe instead of a 13/50 go with a 14/54 combination. Both set ups run 3.85(3.86) ratio but the 14/54 should keep the chain from dragging the swing arm as much.

Regards,
 
you may find that they only make sprockets up to 52T in the USA like they do here.

regards

Taffy
 
Hey Taff,

Have you ever found anyplace that you can pick up a sprocket larger than the 52T? I was wondering about the Sidewinder sprockets I have seen advertised in the dirt bike mags??? They claim to make custom sprockets in a different assortment of steels and alloys but they are a bit pricey. I had thought about picking up one of their stainless steel laser cut rear sprockets or the Ti-MOLY when I needed to replace the one currently on my bike. They have everything you could ever want.... Take a look and see what you think. These guys look top rate to me but I can't speek from experience. I don't know what they can do for Husabergs but worth checking into.

Regards,
 
Dan confirmed my stock gearing is 14/48. so I went to 14/50. I will report in on the new gearing ratios, which I know you all look forward to..
 
bigbob said:
Dan confirmed my stock gearing is 14/48. so I went to 14/50. I will report in on the new gearing ratios, which I know you all look forward to..

The suspense is kill'in me! :D
 
rode it around my block a few times. 1st, 2nd and 3rd now more closer.....imagine that. Very Nice I like it. It will do me well in hill climbs and nasty stuff.

funny thing those two teeth bigger sprocket meant the wheel had to move forward to get the chain adjusted right, but I couldn't get the chain adjuster bolts to move enough forward. they were all the way in aand chain was too tight, so I had to reverse the chain adjuster blocks then wind the chain adjuster bolts way out to get the chain right..

Dan gave me a new tire too. Still I think that would have rubbed, but my muffler is now shimmed out . so all is good for 3 days of riding this weekend.
 
Cool topic men!!

Be careful Bob how much you gear it down. 2 teeth might be ok, but going any more will allow you engine to pull quickly through its torque range, and all you end up doing is shifting quicker. I have seen a couple guys do it to slow the speeds down, but suddenly realize that they have geared out the torque that the 450 has so much of. The motor works so well in the mid, tighter gearing makes the bike accerate quicker which is cool in some instances, but on an off camber, rooty, rocky, wet uphill, acceleration is bad, very bad.

I don't mean to say you won't like it, because that pic is where berg torque is so awesome.

You can gear a 550 down more than a 450 though, as it has enough torque and power that you can upshift into the next gear and still go as slow as you want and get your usable torque. But suddenly you can wick the throttle and bury Honda's!!!

Just my wee 2 cents

fry
 
yeah I can see that, the bike was quick stock 14/48. the ratio change for only two teeth in the back is not much, less then dropping one in front. well I'll see this weekend if just as the speed hit used to come last time now I may find I have to shift and never get that nice speed rush.....

I think that is what your are saying and why the bike is 14/48 stock. It's made for guys who race and go fast, not for C riders who crawl along. My friends said I was faster on this bike then ever before....maybe it was not only the lightness of the bike that let me feel like it was a speed mountain bike in the corners, all maybe also the stock gearing had something to do with it because that tall second definitely was making me go Faster then normal to keep me from down shifting.
 
bigbob said:
well I'll see this weekend if just as the speed hit used to come last time, now I may find I have to shift and never get that nice speed rush.....

a-ha! and we are doing this for woods riding (aren't we now! :twisted: ) and we haven't forgotten have we!!!

you'll find you've got a gear for every occasion!

regards

Taffy
 
Taffy said:
a-ha! and we are doing this for woods riding (aren't we now! :twisted: ) and we haven't forgotten have we!!!

2900+ posts like gum, stuck to UHE boots I see. Isn't time for your Tea? do you get much riding done on that fog bound rain rock island you live on? Have they got any trees left there? I thought the Roman's cut em all down, or was that king henry?
 
WTF AYOA?

just remember not to have double standards is what i'm saying!

woods gearing is not open country gearing. as said last week, the box is too close to be good for everything unless you have no mechanical sympathy.

if you want to start name calling then go ahead-on your own.

regards

Taffy
 
I use a 13X48 setup on my bike a 96 FE 501. For woods riding it does good but when you come to wide open spaces then I wish for a 14 front. I still might put a 14 on the front later on but as is the setup works for the way I ride. It will be very easy to over rev. the engine in the lower gears if not careful. Good luck.
 
BigBob

You are right about the gearing making the bike easier to ride, but that style of power also requires the right riding technique to be utilized. Revmongers may prefer Taffy's gearing.

Using the torque saves energy, so not only can you ride faster you also ride faster longer.

have fun this weekend Bob

fry
 
fry

just so as we understand everything here. the gearing 13/48 or 14/51 is perfic for woods, this is 'stand alone gearing'.

with this you can climb steep rock faces and pop-it over logs, i hope you agree.

down the back straight (or straightaway as our cousins would say) you would roll off and on the throttle to stop over rev.

in racing you would lose 3 seconds a lap and gain 30 so this is the right gearing. another thing that helps is that on woods gearing the bike drops nicely into ruts on deceleration whereas on taller gearing the bike rolls over the top carrying too much speed.

but you knew all that... :D

regards

Taffy
 
Taffy said:
bob

if you are serious about woods riding then you'll forget what gearing 6th pulls. the bike is suited to 13/48 in woods. i pull 14/51 so as not to wear out the swingarm rubber protector. you might have 50cc more than me but you are also bigger than me (200lbs).

hope this helps

regards

Taffy

Taffy thank you for your detailed and helpful posts. This first post of yours is where I got confused and I felt we got off track, because my first question was what is my stock CS gear size? I know it's lame but it was late and I didn't want to remove the plastic CS guard to count teeth and no web sites said it...plus I don't have my owners manual yet, but turns out it dont say it

Your reponse above that 13/48 is good for woods and the tone of it led me to believe you think the stock CS on my bike is 13? so you were later asking me why was I changing it if you say its good for woods? a fair question, but later in the thread you'll see I found out from Dan MotoXotica checked some source online that my 06 fe450e stock CS is 14. So I posted that given that my stock gearing is 14/48, I felt a Small adjustment down would be interesting to try for woods which is 80% my riding....so I went with the smallest down adjustment of gearing by increasing the rear sporcket to a 50.

here is the ratios from sandskippers chart

14/48 3.43

14/50 3.57

14/51 3.64

13/48 3.69

13/49 3.77

13/50 3.85

So Taffy, my man, my new ratio of 14/50, 3.57 is still less (taller) then your recommended 13/48, 3.69 ratio ...so I got frustrated when you commented "Remember this is for woods" because my final ratio is still less then what you first said is good for woods...see ?? so I kinda laughed it off and gave you that crack about the romans and the trees an all :lol: which I do sometimes......just busting chops with you, it's the New Yorker in me. I lived there for 5 years once.

OK I am at 14/50 and loving life why? because I have a Husaberg!

I hope this clears it up.
 

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