Expected Engine Life 2010 FE's

1st - People get rid of Bergs after 5 years? That statement mixes 2 completely different generation and motor design. up to 2008 it the old, and somehow fragile design. 2009 on it's a KTM motor basically, just improved in some points.

2nd - My Berg is 570. When you ride something so powerful (but still very agile) you hardly force or rev the motor. Mine have 220 hours now, over 6000km, most of them Enduro practice and racing, and 2/3 of Baja 1000 race.
Still start perfect in a single push of the red button, and run great. Never ever adjusted the valves. But yes, in comparison to a new one it's a bit down on power (but still have more then enough) so I would say it's top end time.

Based on our very hard use in rallye racing where we have put on up to 5,000km racing on individual '09 570's (we have done a total of about 25,000km now across 6 different 570's) and when we open them up re top end, barrel, piston rings etc, I would estimate that 15,000 km is very achievable with average single track enduro style use before a rebuild to be on the safe side, maybe even 20,000km for dual sport type use and well looked after with mechanical sympathy.

Guy in Spain has done real high km on his tour rental '09's.

PS I STILL think the '07-'08 FE650 motor is more durable, contrary to the general view of the "old" motor. We put 13,000 racing km on one of those motors and it was still a total grunt machine at the end of it :twisted:

Gazza said:

Based on our very hard use in rallye racing where we have put on up to 5,000km racing on individual '09 570's (we have done a total of about 25,000km now across 6 different 570's) and when we open them up re top end, barrel, piston rings etc, I would estimate that 15,000 km is very achievable with average single track enduro style use before a rebuild to be on the safe side, maybe even 20,000km for dual sport type use and well looked after with mechanical sympathy.

Guy in Spain has done real high km on his tour rental '09's.

PS I STILL think the '07-'08 FE650 motor is more durable, contrary to the general view of the "old" motor. We put 13,000 racing km on one of those motors and it was still a total grunt machine at the end of it :twisted:

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Gazza, what about the '05 and '06 FE650? Aren't they pretty much the same as the later ones?

brucifer said:

Gazza, what about the '05 and '06 FE650? Aren't they pretty much the same as the later ones?

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Never used them so cant judge personally. Here in Australia '05's had some main bearing issues, not all but enough. '06's were better, but by '07 & '08 the bugs were gone tottaly.

Gazza said:

brucifer said:

Gazza, what about the '05 and '06 FE650? Aren't they pretty much the same as the later ones?

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Never used them so cant judge personally. Here in Australia '05's had some main bearing issues, not all but enough. '06's were better, but by '07 & '08 the bugs were gone tottaly.

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Ahh, I see. Thanks.

Fuel injection and the better air filter system should, in my opinion, make the top-end last at least twice, maybe 3 times as long as a comparible carburated KTM.

I think maybe.......... a long long time.

I hope the new donks lasts a long time. My Yamaha WR mates already call my bike the Pussaberg, they are really going to take the piss out of me if the engine dies in the bush :?

We had a meeting before our last ride and one of them is in the background yelling out, "Make sure someone chucks a can of Aerostart in their back pack for the KTM's and Pussabergs"

pusaberg, junkerberg, husabutt etc etc, I acutally got berglsmerg form my mates chucking off at me. It dont matter davo I point yami owners to legs flying out of bed on the older yrf/wrf bikes and weak intake valves for crf riders. Just get out there and roost the **** outta them, I find that usually works 8) I also take time out to point out the quality fruit on the bike ( magura clutch, brembo stoppers, machined adjustable offset triple clamp, EFI Akrapovic pipe, deadly trip computer etc ) All stuff that jappa owners want to bolt onto their bikes :lol:

I couldn't roost my way out of a wet paper bag berglsmerg :?
I can tell you though when we swap bikes the WR250 feels like a Posties Bike (Honda CT110) and the WR450 doesn't feel much better till it is reving it's ring off. Can't believe I was thinking of buying one, phew that was lucky.

33,000 + kms on my 98 501 and still going strong. Still out grunts a modern 450 and surprises people who try it, who may then try my 650 with 6,300 kms to date and get off it shaking their head. Makes 525/530 KTMs feel like 300s and 450s like 250s. Can't beat the grin factor, unless its a Bushie 700 I guess.

Steve

Davo said:

I couldn't roost my way out of a wet paper bag berglsmerg :?

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Its too easy with all that grunt on tap, I've taken out a glass headlight on a xr600. Man I love to roost, especially going past a honda pulling 5th cog.

Hi,'
I have owned an 09 berg 570 since March last year. Since then I have put 11200Kms on it or 220+ hrs.
The thing started to sound a bit funny after a six day ride to Cape Flattery and back (from Cairns).
I decided to pull down the top end and sort some issue's I've been having with the bike, and that sound had me worried about the engine.

However when I stripped it down I found the cause of the strange sound. My header pipe was cracking all around the weld points on the mounting bracket. Like a fifty cent piece about to bust off my pipe!!v So I welded the cracks and remounted my pipe - sweet sounding.

This was unexpected good news as when I pulled down the head it looked pretty damn good for 220 hrs, so I replaced the ring and piston and gaskets. While stripped, I also solved an issue Id had with water leaking from the radiator tell tale. Bought new seals and impellar shaft and that sorted the water leak.

Interestingly the seals were installed back to front from factory, and there is a direct contradiction between what I read in my owners manual, and the factory workshop manual cd I have a copy of. My owners manual shows in a diagram that the oil and water pump seals are to be put in reversed to how they should. The oil seal has a metal lip and should be on the oil side, and the rubber seal to the water side. hope that makes sense.

My issue is now finally solved a year after buying the bike, with no help from the dealership I bought the bike off.

warranty? nah...

How long can I get out of a bottom end? ha ha sounds dirty!?

berg570 said:

Hi,'
I have owned an 09 berg 570 since March last year. Since then I have put 11200Kms on it or 220+ hrs. :cheers: :cheers:

My header pipe was cracking all around the weld points on the mounting bracket.

How long can I get out of a bottom end?

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My guess is a new crank & main bearings around 20,000-25,000km :?:

We have also had the header pipe crack there on one of the '09 bikes during the Safari last year. Husaberg have changed it to a new part # for the 2010 models on and its now no longer an issue

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While stripped, I also solved an issue Id had with water leaking from the radiator tell tale. Bought new seals and impellar shaft and that sorted the water leak.

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Sorry if it's a dumb question but what's the radiator tell tale? I've seen a couple of small streaks of dried liquid on the right side of the cylinder head near the spark plug but I couldn't be sure whether it was actually a leak or just water from the last wash that had been lurking somewhere up under the tank and run down when I rode the bike. So it would be useful to know where the coolant was appearing when it leaked from your tell tale.

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berg570 said:

While stripped, I also solved an issue Id had with water leaking from the radiator tell tale. Bought new seals and impellar shaft and that sorted the water leak.

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Sorry if it's a dumb question but what's the radiator tell tale? I've seen a couple of small streaks of dried liquid on the right side of the cylinder head near the spark plug but I couldn't be sure whether it was actually a leak or just water from the last wash that had been lurking somewhere up under the tank and run down when I rode the bike. So it would be useful to know where the coolant was appearing when it leaked from your tell tale.

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They're talking about the water pump weep hole Pete. There is a small hole behind the output port of the water pump, that tells you that the seal is starting to leak and it drips out of this hole. .

DaleEO said:

They're talking about the water pump weep hole Pete. There is a small hole behind the output port of the water pump, that tells you that the seal is starting to leak and it drips out of this hole.

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Thanks for that Dale; I think I saw it as I remember wondering what it was there for and how far it went into the engine.

Now I just have to decide whether I'm pleased they had such a clever idea as making a hole so you know when the seal's going, or worried that they thought you'd need it often enough to make it worthwhile! :mrgreen:

I think it is a good design. You may be able to catch the seal failure earlier than finding your oil all white and foamy!!

Hi guys, I know I am opening up an old post but I am keen to know how people are doing with their FE570's nearly 3 years on from the last post on here. What is the verdict on hours / miles / kilometres for the reliability of the machine.

I have a 2009 FE570 with 162 hours on it 6400k's and it is running like a dream but I was considering doing some mods to make it a dual sport light weight adventure bike...more and more lighter bikes are the the desire for this type of riding here in New Zealand.

I was also thinking of putting the Safari front tank on it and keen to get people's opinions if they have done anything similar on long range testing.