First time I heard of these guys. They are in the UK and pretend offering a better than new SEM replacement stator.
Anybody tried their products?
Anybody tried their products?
Ah Electrex this is like showing a crucifix to Satin,I've know about them for tha last17 or 18 years, yes they started up in the Uk didn't go down to well with a lot of people, did a submarine act for a while and they resurfaced in the States. If there quality is still as it was when they were in the Uk you boys that ride the desert don't forget your mobile phone you might need it.
You might think I'm being a bit biassed, but i've writing posts on here for over a year and I think most people see that what I write is what I see.
Regards
Sparks.
You might think I'm being a bit biassed, but i've writing posts on here for over a year and I think most people see that what I write is what I see.
Regards
Sparks.
Joined Oct 2004
350 Posts | 1+
Yellowknife, NT Canada
I bought a set of lighting coils for a CR500 from these folks - I wouldn't recommend the product.
The output was very weak.
Cheers
Mark
The output was very weak.
Cheers
Mark
Joined Jun 2005
64 Posts | 2+
Sydney, Australia
Just to be the odd one out here.
I bought an Electrex stator to fit the KTM RFS after reading about them on KTMTalk.
It is rated at 270W and is 3 phase. I used it with a LC4 3 phase rec/reg and it has performed perfectly for 2 years.
There were some guys who had trouble with the electrex stators when using the electric start but they would kickstart OK, I had no problem and it was supposedly fixed. There were also a lot of problems with the Electrex 3 phase rec/regs.
Just do a search on KTMTalk for electrex and you will see all the info.
I bought an Electrex stator to fit the KTM RFS after reading about them on KTMTalk.
It is rated at 270W and is 3 phase. I used it with a LC4 3 phase rec/reg and it has performed perfectly for 2 years.
There were some guys who had trouble with the electrex stators when using the electric start but they would kickstart OK, I had no problem and it was supposedly fixed. There were also a lot of problems with the Electrex 3 phase rec/regs.
Just do a search on KTMTalk for electrex and you will see all the info.
As the manufacturer I would like to add some information about our SEM replacement stators for Husaberg models.
Development started about 2 yrs ago with testing carried out on a Vertimatti for 6 mths and production in 2006 with the first type made for the pre 99 Husabergs models type ST5500L and for the later 99-03 Husabergs with a 3k source coil we have model ST5410L.
Not wishing to repeat the inherent design faults of the original SEM units, several changes were made to maximise reliability the most obvious of which is our stators are not potted in black resin, temperature cycling can cause the potting compound to impose stresses on the windings and cause failure.
The originals also have a plastic insulation system which is not suffiicently rigid to prevent movement in the fine copper winding this can cause fatigue failure .
Both the above are normally diagnosed as open circuit on the source coil.
Ofcourse rewinding the original only tends to repeat the original problems.
Latest versions of our stators have a multiphase lighting/ battery alternator output, basically the stator can be connected exactly as original setup or used as a 3 phase unit
with optional reg/rectifier with a DC power of about 150watts.
Regards
Peter Houghton MD
Development started about 2 yrs ago with testing carried out on a Vertimatti for 6 mths and production in 2006 with the first type made for the pre 99 Husabergs models type ST5500L and for the later 99-03 Husabergs with a 3k source coil we have model ST5410L.
Not wishing to repeat the inherent design faults of the original SEM units, several changes were made to maximise reliability the most obvious of which is our stators are not potted in black resin, temperature cycling can cause the potting compound to impose stresses on the windings and cause failure.
The originals also have a plastic insulation system which is not suffiicently rigid to prevent movement in the fine copper winding this can cause fatigue failure .
Both the above are normally diagnosed as open circuit on the source coil.
Ofcourse rewinding the original only tends to repeat the original problems.
Latest versions of our stators have a multiphase lighting/ battery alternator output, basically the stator can be connected exactly as original setup or used as a 3 phase unit
with optional reg/rectifier with a DC power of about 150watts.
Regards
Peter Houghton MD
Joined Aug 2006
7 Posts | 0+
Reunion Island (FR) - Indian Ocean
Electrex stator
Hello everybody,
I've finally decided (see this thread) to order the new electrex ST5401L stator with the 3 phase regulator/rectifier for my FSE 650 2002 Berg.
I will let you know should I'm satisfied or not.
JMB
Hello everybody,
I've finally decided (see this thread) to order the new electrex ST5401L stator with the 3 phase regulator/rectifier for my FSE 650 2002 Berg.
I will let you know should I'm satisfied or not.
JMB
Joined Aug 2006
7 Posts | 0+
Reunion Island (FR) - Indian Ocean
Hello guys,
As promised, here is my feedback concerning the product:
- I had a few difficulty to install it into the stator's cover since the wires do not face exactly the hole of said cover,
- I have now big blue sparks at the plug,
- the Berg now e-starts very well, hot or cold.
So, it finally solved my problem and i'm happy !
PS: I did not try yet the 3 phase regulator/rectifier I also bought.
As promised, here is my feedback concerning the product:
- I had a few difficulty to install it into the stator's cover since the wires do not face exactly the hole of said cover,
- I have now big blue sparks at the plug,
- the Berg now e-starts very well, hot or cold.
So, it finally solved my problem and i'm happy !
PS: I did not try yet the 3 phase regulator/rectifier I also bought.
Hello Husaberg fans,
JMB, I've also just bought an electrex stator for my 400 FEE 2002 but I don't understand how to adjust the timing ignition.
There is a mark on elctrex stator to adjust with top dead center position on flywhell?
If there is one I didn't find it.... :cry:
JMB, I've also just bought an electrex stator for my 400 FEE 2002 but I don't understand how to adjust the timing ignition.
There is a mark on elctrex stator to adjust with top dead center position on flywhell?
If there is one I didn't find it.... :cry:
Crap it's a French invasion these days, what's up with that? Are you State workers and Sarkozy giving it hard to you?
Toolenduro.com broken again?
Toolenduro.com broken again?
I've sended an email last night to Electrex and they answer to me this morning :shock:
" Its not possible to put the TDC mark on the ST5410L stator as the original. Look at the screw location of the original and place in the same position. "
Done it this afternoon and it's working, now I have an e-start.
LeFrog : Nope, I'm not a State Worker, I'm working into CNC for aeronautical.
Dunno for Toolenduro, I'm going on this website
http://www.freenduro.com/index.html
cuz I'm riding in south west of France.
" Its not possible to put the TDC mark on the ST5410L stator as the original. Look at the screw location of the original and place in the same position. "
Done it this afternoon and it's working, now I have an e-start.
LeFrog : Nope, I'm not a State Worker, I'm working into CNC for aeronautical.
Dunno for Toolenduro, I'm going on this website
http://www.freenduro.com/index.html
cuz I'm riding in south west of France.
Not trying to state anything good or bad about Electrex's product, I would like to recommend Sparks for rewinds. Why????? Because Sparks is a heavy contributor here whom offers knowledge and help without any thought of payment for his knowledge. Same goes for Taffy, Ned37, and countless others. My point is....don't bite the hand that feeds you....Sparks thanks for all your help and my stator is great, too bad the bike is too much for me. I need a nice 450/501.
Darrin
Darrin
Good reason to by rewinded SEM stator.
Does anybody else have more good reasons to by the rewinded SEM stator from Sparks?
I am a little bit ambivalent about putting back that crappy old SEM stator even if it`s rewinded.
Sparks has a very good support as i understand from this forum and he is doing a good job with the old SEM stators.
But.... it is still the old crappy SEM stator with new copper on!
With best regards
Jampe
Does anybody else have more good reasons to by the rewinded SEM stator from Sparks?
I am a little bit ambivalent about putting back that crappy old SEM stator even if it`s rewinded.
Sparks has a very good support as i understand from this forum and he is doing a good job with the old SEM stators.
But.... it is still the old crappy SEM stator with new copper on!
With best regards
Jampe
Joined Nov 2001
17K Posts | 774+
Ely, England
Re: Good reason to by rewinded SEM stator.
This will be my last comment on the thread so goes, there is nothing wrong with the design on most ignition systems but the quality of the materials used. When anything is mass produced there is a lot of rejects and the ones that do make it there life span is on a steep sliding scale.
The mains reasons why the original SEM fails are poor quality enameled wire can't withstand high temperatures the way the windings are terminated in side and the potting compound they use doesn't adhere to the steel laminations so moisture can get in but can't get out this is what corrodes the windings.
My side of things, I have 32 years of winding experience whether it is winding a stator that you can actually walk through down to a small armature for a train set, the size differs but theory and technique doesn't.
Firstly the wire I use has very high enamel qualities temperature up to 200 Degrees C so heat failure is not an issue, secondly the windings are impregnated with varnish and oven cured for three hours, they are also connected differently to the originals for more reliability and thirdly the encapsulating compound I use was designed for this application it adderes to the steel which keeps out moisture 100%.
And why would I buy one of my rewound stators with out being to cocky, in over 1000 SEM rewinds I have had only two come back but the faults were mechanical not electrical.
Regards
Steve.
Hi Jampe,jampe said:
This will be my last comment on the thread so goes, there is nothing wrong with the design on most ignition systems but the quality of the materials used. When anything is mass produced there is a lot of rejects and the ones that do make it there life span is on a steep sliding scale.
The mains reasons why the original SEM fails are poor quality enameled wire can't withstand high temperatures the way the windings are terminated in side and the potting compound they use doesn't adhere to the steel laminations so moisture can get in but can't get out this is what corrodes the windings.
My side of things, I have 32 years of winding experience whether it is winding a stator that you can actually walk through down to a small armature for a train set, the size differs but theory and technique doesn't.
Firstly the wire I use has very high enamel qualities temperature up to 200 Degrees C so heat failure is not an issue, secondly the windings are impregnated with varnish and oven cured for three hours, they are also connected differently to the originals for more reliability and thirdly the encapsulating compound I use was designed for this application it adderes to the steel which keeps out moisture 100%.
And why would I buy one of my rewound stators with out being to cocky, in over 1000 SEM rewinds I have had only two come back but the faults were mechanical not electrical.
Regards
Steve.
Joined Sep 2007
16 Posts | 0+
Fallbrook, Ca
Electrex History
As the MD of Electrex, I don't have too much time to correspond on this excellent forum. I would like to put the record straight regarding the comments made by one of your members who could not spell Satan. We have been in continuous and expanding production for more than 21 years. We briefly had a distributor in the USA called 'Electrex USA' who after several years copied all of our products and had them made in China; this company is now called 'Electrosport'. We obviously have no trading relationship with said company.
Our replacement SEM stators for Husaberg have, so far, proven to be 100% reliable, and so we are very happy with the design changes and production methods we have utilized for this product.
Regards,
Peter Houghton
As the MD of Electrex, I don't have too much time to correspond on this excellent forum. I would like to put the record straight regarding the comments made by one of your members who could not spell Satan. We have been in continuous and expanding production for more than 21 years. We briefly had a distributor in the USA called 'Electrex USA' who after several years copied all of our products and had them made in China; this company is now called 'Electrosport'. We obviously have no trading relationship with said company.
Our replacement SEM stators for Husaberg have, so far, proven to be 100% reliable, and so we are very happy with the design changes and production methods we have utilized for this product.
Regards,
Peter Houghton
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