Easy!

Oh YA BABY, that 04 FE550 is so close I can smell it...

Just have to get to Vacaville to get the cash to Dan at MotoXotica and in a few days... I am back in the saddle!

CAN"T WAIT! to show the non-believers I ride with!

Tis true the new Bergs are very good,only the usual set up is required to make then run well.

BOSS said:

All this info here is great. But from 04 till now 06,these bikes out of the

crate should run excellent when delivered to the customer.

"No more is required in jetting a berg than the other brands" before

the customer takes her home. As a dealer i wanted to let people

who are considering buying a berg to feel confident that there product

will run as good or better than the competition's. If ones dealer cant

live up to your expectations maybe you or they could consult with

there respective rep. to get you there! Good luck guys 06 is here!!!

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Hi Rick,
I agree! As delivered the FCR equipped Husaberg performs better than ever. However, such being said and with consideration of the other brands using an OEM FCR "their remains room for improvement".

Best Regards,
Dale

perfection= always strived for,yet never attained

BOSS said:

Hi dale

I agree,just because mitch payton builds a pipe

doesnt stop don elmer from building one too.

there are many way's to skin a cat!

thanks for your support!

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Hi Rick,
I have know clue as to what you are attempting to imply regarding the exhaust analogy.

In any event, Don "Emler". Don has been around long enough to have his name spelled correctly.

Dale

Strive for perfection in everything.
Take the best and make it better.
If it does not exist, create it.
Accept nothing as nearly right or good enough.

Sir Henry Royce, co-founder of Rolls Royce.

nsman said:

perfection= always strived for,yet never attained

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Just for you Nsman:

"Strive for perfection in everything.
Take the best and make it better.
If it does not exist, create it.
Accept nothing as nearly right or good enough".

Sir Henry Royce, co-founder of Rolls Royce.

Sincerely,
Dale

I am a fact based individual.
Below please find a 2005 Husaberg 650 based fact:

5% Torque Increase:

No smoke, no mirrors, just a simple jetting change from that of the OEM.

The main focus was improved "rideability". Said 5% was merely a bonus.

Dale

BOSS said:

No more is required in jetting a berg than the other brands before

the customer takes her home.

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My understanding is that they do now run "good" for the average rider out of the crate (and for me that would probably be fine as i can't use all the power anyway :roll: ) but for optimum performance depending on altitude and other factors they may need to be tuned a bit just like any other bike. maybe that means changing a main or pilot or needle depending on your riding conditions...

but this is the case with any bike is it not?

again... I am just assuming... but you know what they say about people who do that...

LINEAWEAVER said:

nsman said:

perfection= always strived for,yet never attained

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Just for you Nsman:

"Strive for perfection in everything.
Take the best and make it better.
If it does not exist, create it.
Accept nothing as nearly right or good enough".

Sir Henry Royce, co-founder of Rolls Royce.

Sincerely,
Dale

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Those are inspirational words from Sir Henry Royce,the best can always be better.I have always felt that perfection and patience are codependent.

risky1 said:

BOSS said:

No more is required in jetting a berg than the other brands before

the customer takes her home.

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My understanding is that they do now run "good" for the average rider out of the crate (and for me that would probably be fine as i can't use all the power anyway :roll: ) but for optimum performance depending on altitude and other factors they may need to be tuned a bit just like any other bike. maybe that means changing a main or pilot or needle depending on your riding conditions...

but this is the case with any bike is it not?

again... I am just assuming... but you know what they say about people who do that...

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As delivered the FCR 41 equipped Husaberg is lean on the bottom and very "Fat" on top. Their are several issues (including legal) as to why, however, unless prompted I will not go into grave detail.

The pump serves a purpose in covering a lean "transient" hole.

My question:
Should good enough, average and OK be associated with a $7,000.00 plus dirt bike? Such indeed may simply be considered acceptable regarding the motorcycle industry. Truth be told, a very good portion of my living is derived from sorting through "brand spanking new" $30,000.00 plus fuel injected Harleys. :shock:

Dale

[quote="LINEAWEAVER
As delivered the FCR 41 equipped Husaberg is lean on the bottom and very "Fat" on top. Their are legal issues as to why, however, unless prompted I will not go into engineering detail.

Dale[/quote]

Isn't the EPA and government involvement grand I love what they do with my tax dollars! heaven forbid that they actually legislate important things instead of how much pollution a bike puts out...

but can't those conditions be fixed fairly easily without changing jets and such, a few adjustments here and there, that for the average rider (exceptions being those riders that ride in extreme conditions i.e high altitude and/or temperatures) we would not notice much? or does it always require a jetting change to get a "good" running bike as opposed to an perfectly running bike, although your idea of a good running bike is most likely different than mine.. as good is not good enough for people with your drive...

I know, I know, why have a race bike if it is not going to be tuned to optimal performance" being short on the stuff that makes the world go round... I ask myself do i need to spend the extra cash to get that 5% more torque, as much as i want to I don't honestly think my butt would ever notice...

convince me dale, I need an excuse to justify it to the wife your jet kit :lol:


edit;

I don't mean to turn this into a jetting forum, but since I am picking up my 04 next week with a friend who is a huge skeptic.. I want it to blow him away. So if I need to have Dan set it up before I get it, I want to get it done. I was just under the impression that except for the lean and fat conditions that the bike would be a strong runner from the get go... and that those conditions could be changed easily.

I think he does that anyway.. but i need to make sure.

"convince me dale, I need an excuse to justify it to the wife your jet kit" :lol:

Risky1,
My intent is to convince neither you and / or anyone else of anything.

As delivered does the Husaberg live up to its overall performance potential?. The answer is a very simple no.

At the risk of being redundant:
Peak power was never the objective, only a fringe. "Rideability" is and always has been my primary agenda.

My opinion:
What good are "the big numbers" if delivery is unfriendly.

Sincerely,
Dale

i'm sure you two are going to have a hug when you meet but i can't see what the issue is here?

suspension is a reflection of the area YOU will ride and want from the bike, the SPEED you ride at and the TERRAIN you'll ride on.

likewise jetting is only an improvisation for all conditions and altitudes, moisture etc. the states is a big place!

mexico to alaska-essentially. arizona to mount mckinley.

so do we agree that we have good jetting from mattighofen or not? dale's (and bozz and my) ability to find the extra on an individual bike basis should be taken as a "given". so what the hell are you both doing?

maybe you just forgot why you're slugging and just want to do it "because it's there*".

BTW - another great brit dale- *sir edmund hillary (and no NZ can't have him!!!!)

regards

Taffy

Rick, Taffy,
in my opinion information in the following posts is incorrect and therefore should be addressed. I simply took it upon myself to address said issues.
No anger and / or bad attitude here. Simply like to deal in facts not personal perception and / or wishful thinking.

My offer is to simply put my money where my mouth is. No animosity, bad attitude, personal agenda and / or hard feelings. Sorry if you no longer feel all warm and fuzzy. This is the MC industry, get over it.

BOSS Quote #1:
sorry big bob
but i like what you said a few pages back.
"why screw with a perfectly running bike?"
spent time & money & didnt get a free lunch? go figure!
did you say the guys that built that awesome machine are idiots?
some tuning may be necessary, but not reinventing the wheel bro.

BOSS Quote #2:
All this info here is great. But "From 04 till now 06,these bikes out of the crate should run excellent when delivered to the customer".
No more is required in jetting a berg than the other brands before
the customer takes her home. As a dealer i wanted to let people
who are considering buying a berg to feel confident that there product
will run as good or better than the competition's. If ones dealer cant
live up to your expectations maybe you or they could consult with
there respective rep. to get you there! Good luck guys 06 is here!!!

"Why screw with a perfectly running bike?"
Valve lash inspection / adjustment is suggested should the engine be performing to par or not. kind of like changing oil. Suggesting otherwise is foolish @ best.

"From 04 till now 06,these bikes out of the
crate should run excellent when delivered to the customer":
This statement is true in that the bikes "should" indeed run excellent out of the crate. The truth is "they do not".

For the record:
Dan (Motoxotica) altered the jetting from that of OEM prior to initial delivery to BB. So much for "perfect "out of the crate jetting.

Note:
I later simply attempted to address an area BB was having trouble with. Said attempt was based on prior experience.

I also agree their is more than one way to skin a cat. The correct and the incorrect.

Regarding storefront profit "correct" being whatever makes your client happy.

Regarding performance engineering "correct" being what provides the best performance for a given set of conditions. Such is why I own an R&D facility, not a showroom.

In closing:
Rick,
Make of this thread and my comments what you will. However and in my defense, I do not have a personal axe to grind with you. I simply disagree with your statements and am letting you know I am willing to show you why.

Respectfully,
Dale