Does anyone have the specs for the older 96 or so camshafts? I building an older Berg out of some salvage bikes that I have. Need to know about the difference between the A and B and C cams and in which models they were used in. Saving my $ for a newer Kvarnaberg.
Camshaft specs
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Joined May 2011
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Wisconsin, U.S.
you could check in the owner doc? I know there are specs in there, the link to get to the owner doc is on the top left of the home main page, the specs are in there somewhere, i have heard them called a/b/c camshafts in the past but you will find more info if you look up "01" "55" "08" i think i am missing one but those are three codes for the camshafts pre-08. 01 cam is gutless, 55 is a torquy monster, the 08 is better for top end torque. the 01 was used in the fe models the 55 was used in the fc models and the 08 was used in never engines starting in 2001ish?? although i have a 08 in my 1997 fe model and it runs great and has a lot of power, i do however think that the 55 was the best for starting and still good for power but more for low end power. check the owner doc for the specs i think it maybe is under the engine blueprinting section? i know some of the specs are there.
good luck :cheers:
good luck :cheers:
Joined Mar 2009
1K Posts | 251+
Portugal
Hi
The one that you are missing is the 53, I think it's similar to the 55 with slightly different timing and it was used in just one bike, don't remember if it was the 501 or the 470.
The 08 I think was 2004 or earlier, it was for the 450, I think. It's the one that I'm using now in my 400-02.
The 01 you can say it's the softer of them, but I think for the most off-road riders it should be good. I've used one in one 470 and it was more then enough for me :mrgreen:
Also some say that the 08 is the best for starting ?? Obviously we could discuss that :lol:
:cheers:
ZAGA
The one that you are missing is the 53, I think it's similar to the 55 with slightly different timing and it was used in just one bike, don't remember if it was the 501 or the 470.
The 08 I think was 2004 or earlier, it was for the 450, I think. It's the one that I'm using now in my 400-02.
The 01 you can say it's the softer of them, but I think for the most off-road riders it should be good. I've used one in one 470 and it was more then enough for me :mrgreen:
Also some say that the 08 is the best for starting ?? Obviously we could discuss that :lol:
:cheers:
ZAGA
Joined May 2011
700 Posts | 3+
Wisconsin, U.S.
Thanks Zaga, I forgot the 53, knew I was forgetting one, the 53 was used in the smaller engine. the 55 went to the 501's and 600 due to the deck height or something being different. the 55 for me definatly had more torque compared to the 01 but agreed it still is acceptable for most riders, on the road though you can always have more 
Joined Nov 2001
17K Posts | 774+
Ely, England
that 96 will have run what is called the 53 cam in its time. you want a better cam than that then go look at the KTM sites and read up on them.
the 01 cam was only fitted in the 400 from 2001-2003. it's gutless and dangerous. (in a 400 Zaga!)
the 53 cam was fitted in the 470, the 550 and the 650 from 2001-2003 except in 2003 when only the 650 got the first 08 cam
the 08 cam was fitted in all models from 2004-8
the 55 cam was only fitted in the 501 from 2001-2003 because the rod length and case height nudged the cam around slightly. however, 55 cams are turning up used here and I go to elongate the cam sprocket holes to get the cam timing right and they don't need touching....weird!
I have loads of '53', '55' and '08' cams used here and regularly exchange them with owners. the 01 is easy because everyone wants a pep up from gutless.
the 08 is quieter on the valve gear than the other three.
if you fit a 53 cam in a 400 you must take the slide cutaway up to 4.5mm and stand by with a 35PJ.
regards
Taffy
the 01 cam was only fitted in the 400 from 2001-2003. it's gutless and dangerous. (in a 400 Zaga!)
the 53 cam was fitted in the 470, the 550 and the 650 from 2001-2003 except in 2003 when only the 650 got the first 08 cam
the 08 cam was fitted in all models from 2004-8
the 55 cam was only fitted in the 501 from 2001-2003 because the rod length and case height nudged the cam around slightly. however, 55 cams are turning up used here and I go to elongate the cam sprocket holes to get the cam timing right and they don't need touching....weird!
I have loads of '53', '55' and '08' cams used here and regularly exchange them with owners. the 01 is easy because everyone wants a pep up from gutless.
the 08 is quieter on the valve gear than the other three.
if you fit a 53 cam in a 400 you must take the slide cutaway up to 4.5mm and stand by with a 35PJ.
regards
Taffy
Joined Jun 2007
4K Posts | 1K+
south east WA Australia
the 650 cam was fitted to all models from 2004 up
so if you fit it to an 03 450 you get an "upgrade"
it is very very hard to beat the 650 "08" cam for its balance of torque vs power
there are other cams you can make fit from the ktm RFS engines, the 8/33 is cheapest
so if you fit it to an 03 450 you get an "upgrade"
it is very very hard to beat the 650 "08" cam for its balance of torque vs power
there are other cams you can make fit from the ktm RFS engines, the 8/33 is cheapest
Joined Jun 2007
4K Posts | 1K+
south east WA Australia
hacker33 said:
yes you're right about the cam numbers i had a look as too
I should have known Taffy had posted something not quite right there
I don't think it matters really.. id just get the 08 "650" cam
Joined Nov 2001
17K Posts | 774+
Ely, England
hacker33 said:
Hcker
sometimes people aren't very accurate and we try to think for them.... sometimes too hard!
you must always call your 450 a 2004 because that is the model year. 2001-2002 was FC470 and some 470's lingered into 2003 from the USA back to Sweden and the UK. so when you said 2003 450 I thought WTF, here we go again.
regards
Taffy
Joined Nov 2001
17K Posts | 774+
Ely, England
the 53 cam is a torque monster and it wants you to short shift in every gear. it doesn't rev out in 6th compared to the 08.
the 08 kinda likes to be in roughly the right gear at the right time, not literally but you wouldn't bother doing 15kph in 6th and then 'go'. you'd be in say 1st to 4th. in mid revs they are the same and there is as much at the top with the 08 as there is at the bottom, it is an even spread.
funnily enough I have a 450 2004 that has **** itself here on my bench and I found a 5521 (53) cam in that too! the 450 is a screamer to me, very frisky. but there isn't the bang at the bottom.
it may be worth staying with that cam as I am always telling folk that the 450 is like the old 470, a rev monster.
the 53 cam is very harsh on inlet valves and all the valve gear.
this is what I would do for a really cool bike that works
what would be nice would be to keep the 53 cam
get the jetting spot
go to DVSK
I would think that that would be a superb bike, any gear, anywhere, anytime....
I do a jetting kit and DVSK for them.
gearing is important as well. and the triple clamps. I like the 18mm offset clamps for both road and off-road.
gearing for serious off road should be 13 x 52 or you can have 14 x 52/13 x 48 if you have the clamps. then just play in 3rd to 6th all day and leave 1st gear for getting onto the trailer! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
regards
Taffy
the 08 kinda likes to be in roughly the right gear at the right time, not literally but you wouldn't bother doing 15kph in 6th and then 'go'. you'd be in say 1st to 4th. in mid revs they are the same and there is as much at the top with the 08 as there is at the bottom, it is an even spread.
funnily enough I have a 450 2004 that has **** itself here on my bench and I found a 5521 (53) cam in that too! the 450 is a screamer to me, very frisky. but there isn't the bang at the bottom.
it may be worth staying with that cam as I am always telling folk that the 450 is like the old 470, a rev monster.
the 53 cam is very harsh on inlet valves and all the valve gear.
this is what I would do for a really cool bike that works
what would be nice would be to keep the 53 cam
get the jetting spot
go to DVSK
I would think that that would be a superb bike, any gear, anywhere, anytime....
I do a jetting kit and DVSK for them.
gearing is important as well. and the triple clamps. I like the 18mm offset clamps for both road and off-road.
gearing for serious off road should be 13 x 52 or you can have 14 x 52/13 x 48 if you have the clamps. then just play in 3rd to 6th all day and leave 1st gear for getting onto the trailer! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
regards
Taffy
Joined Sep 2013
209 Posts | 79+
Poznan, Poland
Taffy from what I've read, I thought that all cams since 2004 are "08" cams.
In engines 450 550 650 - I thought that all shafts are the same.
I did not think that cam in the 450 after 2004 it is still "53".
At the moment I have some cam with cut off the water pump. It is possible that it is a "01" because the engine is very mild.
Not long ago I bought this Husaberg and would like to bring the engine to its original state.
For example my had.
In engines 450 550 650 - I thought that all shafts are the same.
I did not think that cam in the 450 after 2004 it is still "53".
At the moment I have some cam with cut off the water pump. It is possible that it is a "01" because the engine is very mild.
Not long ago I bought this Husaberg and would like to bring the engine to its original state.
For example my had.
Joined Nov 2001
17K Posts | 774+
Ely, England
BTW I can see that you have the DVSK already but I can also see that your cam isn't pushed back as far as it will go. there is 1-1.5mm left at the back. push the cam right back and then the CFB/rocker arms will run in the middle of the camshaft lobes as you would want them too.
why would only one inlet and one exhaust valve have the DVSK? weird! 8O 8O
regards
Taffy
why would only one inlet and one exhaust valve have the DVSK? weird! 8O 8O
regards
Taffy
Joined Sep 2013
209 Posts | 79+
Poznan, Poland
Yes, I have two dual valves and two conical
I don't know what cam I have.
You say that "53" cam is screamer.
My bike is not screamer. So I think that I have "01" camshaft.
It's not upgrade. This head had a accident (probably broke two springs) and was repaired very cheap.
Two new springs and camshaft with aluminium gear from some old husaberg.
I don't know what cam I have.
You say that "53" cam is screamer.
My bike is not screamer. So I think that I have "01" camshaft.
It's not upgrade. This head had a accident (probably broke two springs) and was repaired very cheap.
Two new springs and camshaft with aluminium gear from some old husaberg.
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