380 and 496 interest?

i dont think husaberg [ ktm ] would ever expand the current range .

but i think as they develop the bikes they should make the parts available to us .

constantly making the trick bits available via force parts

tm-enduro:

We'll certainly be discussing some additional models with Husaberg's International Sales Manager at our dealer meeting in August. Personally, I think that it's a waste of engineering / design energy to develop a displacement kit (380 or 496) and not turn it into a new model of motorcycle.

While we're on the subject of "trickness" though, the availability of a cylinder kit (big bore or small bore) allows the bike owner to make up their own mind with regard to how many cc's they want their bike to have. And of course, with "trickness" comes additional cost.

Cheers,

Brett Saunders

Sorry but I got to hijack this thread. (might just get a card for this :twisted: )

Lets forget about "trickness" for a minute and look at the need for a larger fuel tank. I know that nobody in the business of making tanks wants to do the start up but.............

I think the OEM and importer needs to address the need and especially in the USA. Look at the numbers of bikes that were sold in the US since 2000 ALL models can use, and especially the FE can benefit and use the same tank. If the tanks for 2007 are not mounted differently that is 8 model years of bikes that can use the same tank. Surely that is a large enough number for the distributer or OEM to have a run of 500 tanks made. Even at $300-$350 I would gladly pay to have the ONLY thing I need for my bike that is not available or something I can make my self.

This site has over 2000 members and if only 1/4 bought a tank then you would have your minimum start up. I know that there are more owners than that world wide. The OEM saw a need for a larger fuel capacity but dropped the ball by making the under the seat tank. Every one I know that races a Husaberg out west deals with the small fuel range in a different way and those of us that do adventure type of riding are carrying a gallon or more on our body in a back pack or on a belt.

You already have the ability to make a 496 or 380 by mixing and matching what is already there. I have seen the topic of a larger tank for the past 6 years so the interest must be there. I would venture to say that if the importer were the one to ask for pre order payment many would be willing to put their money up but for one of us nobody's most would not trust a $300 deposit.

The Omerto aluminmum option is just not what we are looking for a bit too large. It is not the price that turned me away although it is a bit steep but the size needs to be in the 3.5 4 gallon range. And Plastic please ( gotta think about the Jimmies even at my age).

Brett: are you hearing me? I wanna 3.6 gallon tank!!!!

sorry
Rant off

I must agree. The fuel range thing is the only hold back to serious desert racing. I have 5 Bergs and I went so far as to get a 501 that had a drybreak/aluminum tank in order to be somewhat competitive. I also have 2 underseat tanks and while they do help with trail riding, they are useless for racing. (by the way, aluminum is cool and all, but just try to keep it pretty when you are racing it offroad...)
Brett, I'm still looking at some new bergs for Vegas Off-Road. Fuel range is still an issue for long tours. So, nobody in Europe or anywhere has bigger fuel tanks?

Bobzilla said:

Sorry but I got to hijack this thread. (might just get a card for this :twisted: )

Lets forget about "trickness" for a minute and look at the need for a larger fuel tank. I know that nobody in the business of making tanks wants to do the start up but.............

"I think the OEM and importer needs to address the need" and especially in the USA. Look at the numbers of bikes that were sold in the US since 2000 ALL models can use, and especially the FE can benefit and use the same tank. If the tanks for 2007 are not mounted differently that is 8 model years of bikes that can use the same tank. Surely that is a large enough number for the distributer or OEM to have a run of 500 tanks made. Even at $300-$350 I would gladly pay to have the ONLY thing I need for my bike that is not available or something I can make my self.

This site has over 2000 members and if only 1/4 bought a tank then you would have your minimum start up. I know that there are more owners than that world wide. The OEM saw a need for a larger fuel capacity but dropped the ball by making the under the seat tank. Every one I know that races a Husaberg out west deals with the small fuel range in a different way and those of us that do adventure type of riding are carrying a gallon or more on our body in a back pack or on a belt.

You already have the ability to make a 496 or 380 by mixing and matching what is already there. "I have seen the topic of a larger tank for the past 6 years so the interest must be there". I would venture to say that if the importer were the one to ask for pre order payment many would be willing to put their money up but for one of us nobody's most would not trust a $300 deposit.

The Omerto aluminmum option is just not what we are looking for a bit too large. It is not the price that turned me away although it is a bit steep but the size needs to be in the 3.5 4 gallon range. And Plastic please ( gotta think about the Jimmies even at my age).

"Brett: are you hearing me?" I wanna 3.6 gallon tank!!!!

sorry
Rant off

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Sorry Bob and with all due respect:

:lol: LMFAO

Dale

How is it that Clarke makes a large tank for the 05-06 Gas Gas FSE450 but not the Berg? I can't imagine that Gas Gas sales are as high as Husaberg's but I don't really know. Maybe they are, but here on the West coast Gas Gas is virtually nonexistant. Since Acerbis is the OEM supplier for Husaberg it seems that it would be easiest for them to produce an oversize tank.

husabutt said:

How is it that Clarke makes a large tank for the 05-06 Gas Gas FSE450 but not the Berg? I can't imagine that Gas Gas sales are as high as Husaberg's but I don't really know. Maybe they are, but here on the West coast Gas Gas is virtually nonexistant. Since Acerbis is the OEM supplier for Husaberg it seems that it would be easiest for them to produce an oversize tank.

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Based on prior experience such has little to do with ease of manufacturing and / or supply and demand. It has more to do with paying for the existing mold. :wink:

If you really want a different fuel tank I suggest a custom Aluminum or composite item.

I have numerous sources for either, albeit, pricey.

Dale

Gents,

Dale, how much do you guess such a mold would cost, up front. I have heard figures ranging from 5-10K US in the old days. Since that was many years ago I would figure those numbers are real low today.....

Thanks,

Joe

Perhaps the powers that be feel a large capacity fuel tank is low on the to do list. I think they should retool their mind set. In a year I will need (need being relative) to purchase a 125 two stroke or a 250 four stroke for "the kid". The availability of a large capacity tank will be the first consideration on the must have list.

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If you really want a different fuel tank I suggest a custom Aluminum or composite item.

I have numerous sources for either, albeit, pricey.

Dale[/quote]

But what about the Jimmies?????????????? :twisted:

How is the crash worthyness of composite??

I am in the process of having a fab guy ( owner of the dealership here) look into making me a tank out of aluminium either to mount as a dual exuast or looking at making a new seat pan the carries fuel.

There are no CHEAP options but there are about 6 riders talking to the same dealer about making some type of fuel cell. Thats 6 in little old Reno




Sorry Bob and with all due respect:

LMFAO

Dale


And I thought more than one of you would have had a giggle....

oh wait the others aint laughin cause its true :twisted:

tm-enduro said:

Do you think they should remain kits, or would you prefer to see Hbg sell a 380, 450, 496, 550, and 650?

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It would be nice to be able to bump my 450 up to a 500. Especially at rebuild time. I think it would be more cost effective for Husaberg if they offered kits.

Re the original Q, I have some interest in the 496. At some point anyway...

But I have to say I will not buy a 550 and do the conversion. Only if it is an option w/out further cost. It just doesn't make sense to buy a perfectly good 550 and reduce the size at additional cost while other brands offer ~500cc bikes off the show room floor. Many of us already face the cost of adding decent rubber, making the bike "fit" us with bars, pegs, seats, etc..., and then the cost of tuning since they usually come out of tune - pretty soon we are talkin' real money here :twisted: :twisted: :x

At this time, the 496 Husaberg sans cb is the only bike that would interest me (from HSBG), and I doubt it will come to pass...

The 550 is a little bigger than I want, and since I currently ride an 02 Lineaweaver 450, just about any 450, motor wise, would disappoint me I fear.

Anyway, my hope is that they will at some time offer up the 496 as a regular model.

Brett, I want a big tank, too, but it needs to fit bikes all the way back to year 2000 (that's what I have). I had to buy a large tank for my other brand bike, in order to do the riding I enjoy most. Stock tanks are only good for ohv park posers, and certain types of racing. And everyone knows that pretty much most of any manufacturer's customer base does not race. I bet big tanks will sell better than some small bore kit.

i agree 100% with brendan , the big tank would be more popular than any motor kit .

who are the people who make the decisions on the parts available ???

if we know who they are then why not send emails requesting [ begging ]
for a force part tank . if you ask them long enough and with many people involved maybe they will do it .

the tank would sell , no question .

"I bet big tanks will sell better than some small bore kit."

"i agree 100% with brendan , the big tank would be more popular than any motor kit . "




So this has de-evolved into an either/or proposition? Now you see the error of your ways Bobzilla??? [-X

i agree 100% with husabomber who agrees 100% with brendan who i agree 100% with . :?