2010 FE570 weight does it really matter?

Certainly I wouldn't want to be on a bike of lesser design at an equal weight, and probably skill/experience makes a lot more difference than the bike, but weight is a big factor regardless.

Add a 20 pound lead weight to your bike and see if you don't notice it.

OTOH, design can make up for a lot, and maybe even make the difference. A true test would be to have your son ride your bike and you ride his, and switch back and forth several times, over a timed course where the design of the new Hussys might make a difference.

In the mid seventies I walked into a Maico motorcycle shop in California being interested in the Maico. One of the first things I ask the owner was da what does the 250 Maico weigh, his eye-brows went up as he ask me if I was a pro rider, no I replied but the magazines say they are a few pounds heaver than some of the bikes. Magazines in a heavy voice, he said, be careful what you read and believe.
He proceeded to carefull explain to me if I was going to bench press the bike a few pounds makes a differences, if I was racing the bike, learn to feel the balance, movement and control as you work with the bike, he was and is right. I went on to own, race three different Macios, in their day they were a great bike. After many years of riding I've had some light weight bikes that were not balanced and did not handle well, owned heavy bikes like my 2008 WR450 , not a great handling bike or fun to ride but a dependable bike ( better be, they are a pain to work on)
Point being, my 2010 FE 570 works great is a blast to ride and handles excellant. This bike is well balanced, weight of bike, is not a disadvantage when riding with the guys and their two strokes. O and these guys are about half my age. I did have a learning curve going from a 2009 YZ 250 two stroke to the four stroke but I've had four other Husaberg in years passed so it was not hard to get the feel back. Had to do some basic suspension tuning after break-in and now this bike works great, very happy with the Husaberg
Have a great ride
Haskell in Idaho

knock 8lbs of each tyre you notice that

rest of it yeah balance and geometry are more important than overall weight but take the best balanced nicest bike and reduce the weight allover the entire machine by 30% i mean every single part 30% lighter then what ? id reckon it'd be a lot easier to ride than before

that is with bikes around 100kg + and 12-15kg for a rear wheel, 9-10kg for a front, 10kgs forks 5-6kgs swingarm the most significant place to reduce weight is in the unsprung mass and the heavy rotating tyres/wheels

if the unsprung and rotating masses are reduced then the overall mass more attributable to the engine becomes more imortant. as it is the wheels/tryes are all about the same and have been for a long time so +/-10kg of sprung and nicely suspended mass around the engine doesn't make that much difference. just putting that sprung 10kg in the right place so the rocking chassis movements are more balanced certainly seems to work very well.

Through thick mud I rather ride my Super Enduro then my FE570. It just ploughs straight trough like a train.

All other conditions I prefer my FE570. :lol:

Well when ya go from a DRZ 400s at 320 lbs to a FE 450 at (guess) 250 lbs the indoor MX tracks are way more FUN! :cheers: But in the end I think it's how the motor puts it's power to the ground in a way that is usable for the type of riding done & conditions.

Mark_Donovan said:

I have no doubt that there is a huge difference when it comes to unsprung weight as opposed to weight anywhere else on the bike. I actually have twice heard negative reports from Berg owners that put the Tubeless system on the front, and positive from the rear. I recently got stuck in a goo that took me a good 15 min to dig my bike out of, I left my gloves right there at the rut after digging. This stuff was very heavy, as I dug I felt like every handful was about three pounds. When I got back into motion I had about 1/2 mile before anything that would allow for some speed to ditch the goo through centrifugal force. When I got back to the truck I still had alot of this muck holding on to my wheels like glue. I'm not trying to be contentious, but I did not notice anything adverse about it being there. So when I say it makes a difference, I am starting to think on this design a little extra girth not only is not a neg but may actually improve the handling? I'm not advocating making the bike heavier, I'm just saying that we as mere mortals put way too much credence to the commercial line that has been fed to us from the manufacturers and aftermarket, through the print media that "Lighter is always better". I'm just saying.......
Mark @ Shoals

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yeah I know what you mean sometimes guys get all wound up about a spec that says one bike is 10lbs heavier than another then you weigh them and the spec is not even the right number. Or they buy a bike casue its speced 10lbs lighter and then buy 30lbs of junk to bolt on it.

that hayabusa in my gallery weighs near 200kg thats around 440lbs nobody can beleive how well it works for its size power and weight. its not that hard to ride it faster than most mid pack 450mx riders around tight sandy mx tracks, its got so much tourque and works anywhere from 3000 - screaming jebus 13000. if it falls over though it is freakin heavy. most of the weight is the engine, being centralised and sprung/suspended its not that big a deal once its moving.

I rode an Aprilia at 290 pounds or so dry today. A good 50 pounds heavier. Yeah, it is a totally different bike, but among other things (like the fact that it made almost 20 more HP and was a lot smoother), I did notice the increased weight.

Still the power of the engine was the biggest difference IMO - it just wasn't tractable like my bike. As anyone who has ridden one probably knows, this is not a tight trail/woods bike. Indeed, I thought it would make a good dual sport with street capabilities that might rival those of my Ducati as far as performance, if not comfort.

I rode another person's 570 who did not yet have a Rekluse. Now I remember what my bike was like before the Rekluse and how much I love it. His had a little different ergos because he had risers, lower pegs (we are both well over 6 feet tall) and a lower seat - I actually thought the ergos might be better.

has anyone weighed the new engine (570) ?

Mark_Donovan said:

I wonder if scales at a truck stop would be accurate? I have a deer scale I guess I could hang the beast up.
Mark

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2010 570 right out of the crate with a full tank is 271lb. 129 frt 142 rr. My 06 yz450f with skidplate and 3.2 gallons on board is 253.

FWIW having owned both YZ450F and 570, the 570 feels lighter and dosent have that annoying mid corner push that the 06 Yzf was known for, I can ride the 570 harder faster and longer, it feels like I dont work as hard to get the same pace.

spot the difference in top heaviness.
just a bit of a shame we have gone from the lightest bike in the 450 class to nearly the heaviest.
except for the aprillia & maybe husqvarna. its not only heavy,but top heavy,which makes it a little worse.
in saying that,i have no doubt suspension & bike geometry would be up there with the best of them,if not better.
the weight of the bike or top heaviness is only a concern when stuck, or when ya spilled her on the side of some mongrel hill,which can happen quite regularly where we go.
certainly weight of the bike is a concern for me personally,cause my back is half shagged,but for all you young bucks who are 10 ft tall & bullet proof, it won't come into the equasion.
the split case berg motor has the lowest c.o.g that i have ever seen in any motor,long live the wet sump & gearbox i say.
don't know why they had to place the 2 gearbox shafts so far up in the cases,that seems to have made the whole motor taller,but it could have been worse..much worse.. try riding a husky te450/510 tall /heavy/top heavy & has the worst geometry of any modern day dirt bike.in soft sand it really shows up bad they are,so twichy & unstable.
now then ....we really would have something to complain about.
..weed..

aha the husky! nice ideas on them, don't want one of the new ones freind of mine raced em couple years ago his list of things that broke makes mine sound like im a bit to easy on things

don't know why they had to place the 2 gearbox shafts so far up in the cases,that seems to have made the whole motor taller,

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maybe to get a better swingarm angle? thats the only thing I don't like about the old cases, the output shaft is so low down it means to have a decent sarm angle we need 380mm ground clearence, lotsa bikes have 300mm clearence but they do it by putting the output shaft up higher.

I still reckon the old engine tipped over a bit to raise the output shaft, drop the heavy bit of the motor and cog at the same time in the new chassis would handle very very nice.

the 700 started today Weed :twisted: got 30 min on it, haven't broken it yet :lol:

perhaps the idea is to get all the rotating/reciprocating masses together ? The increased oil capacity sure is a plus considering a pump is needed to scavenge oil from the top end.

We weighed some bikes today just give everyone some apples to apples reality. We have electronic wheel scales for auto racing and they don't lie.

05 gas gas DE 300, 1.5 gallons of gas, plastic hand guards,trail tech computor, aluminum skid plate, radiator guards, rear disc guard, rear tool bag empty,oiginal tires that are still brand new, head light and tail light. 253 lbs
06 gas gas DE 300, 1.5 gallons of gas, aluminum hand guards, aluminum skid plate, aluminum pipe guard, tires worn down to 3/4 tread, head light tail light. 247 lbs
2010 FE 570 Husaberg, 1.5 gallons of gas, aluminum hand guads, aluminum skid plate,pastic front disc guard, aluminum rear disc guard, coolng fan, brand new tires ready to ride. 277lbs
1996 xr 200 honda, 1/2 gallon of gas, all stock . 232 lbs
All bikes are ready to ride with all fluids.

We have not rode the Husaberg far enough to get a complete evaluation but so far at the recommended 1/2 throttle break-in ,(quote from a younger generation)------------------------THIS BIKE IS ABSOLUTELY SICK !!!!!!!!!

We have some very good running Gas Gas 300's and in my opinion one of the best handling scooters to exist.
The gas gas power pails in the shadow of the berg even at half throttle. The nice thing is the power is not out of control either. Can be docile or "hang on for dear life" . I resprung from Slavens recommendations with a progressive rear and heavier front springs. The ride is very smoth and controled even before break-in. Handling is as good as the GG. Notice a little more weight pushing around the garage but goes away after the bike is moving.
Every other word from my Son's mouth is HUSABERG. I made a mistake and let him ride it. Now its not if he gets one but when.

Anyone debating on a new BERG because of the extra weight, this my take. IF you find yourself on nasty ,slimmy ,off camber trails most of the time then you might consider a smaller lighter bike. The little extra weight is well worth the benefits that these bikes have over all the competition. Chances are you won't be picking the bike up as often because of the superior handling. JMHO

It has been my observation in 40 years of riding that the weight of the bike is generally less important than the weight of the rider. I'm finding this to be increasingly true as I get older.
Dez

DezDuster said:

It has been my observation in 40 years of riding that the weight of the bike is generally less important than the weight of the rider. I'm finding this to be increasingly true as I get older.
Dez

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Probably, but it is easier to buy a collection of titanium nuts and bolts and save a few ounces of bike weight than it is to give up that bacon cheeseburger.