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2010 390 Ride Report Version #2

Joined Sep 2009
70 Posts | 12+
Vancouver Island, B.C, Canada
All right, a few fact on the riding area. This is area is almost exclusively tight single track. Some a little more flowing then others, but would be considered very tight by most. We crossed a river four times. The crossings involved lots of boulders, some of which are super slick.
We had one nasty off camber mud hole on a side hill that was two feet deep. The only thing missing from this ride was a super nasty hill climb.

Observations

Every time I load this bike I really notice the weight, you defiantly have to put your back into it. However once the bike is rolling it mostly disappears.

The two other riders that join me on this ride where both on 200cc bikes, one a gas gas and the other a KTM. These bikes are considered to be the weapon of choice for this area due to the light weight and their ability to change direction with little effort. Needless to say both the other riders took some nice long sessions on the 390 and where very impressed.

Lets talk weight and effort.

Yes the bike hides it weights extremely well, that said it is still there and it tends to show up in two or three areas.

First is slow speed single track that is full of dips and holes. Because of the soft front end and the weight, the bike tends fall into those holes verse float over them like my 250xc or either of the 200 I was riding with.

Second is log jumping. Once again the front end tends to be quite heavy and it almost feels like your running into the log verses jumping over. My old 250xc was defiantly a better log jumper. I should say this only applies to logs over 2ft tall. Everything else is no problem

The final area you feel the weight is when descending long steep down hills with switch backs. The bike defiantly wants to pick up more speed and the traction for hard braking on these steep hills is dicey.

Handling and Confidence.

For me this has always been the weak point of KTM. Every one of the 6 KTMs I have owned has been unpredictable at speed and has tended to deflect off roots and rocks. This has always made me ride some what defensively and tense when in the rocks and fast root sections. And yes, I have spent big money on the suspension with my last two KTMs.
The new 390 is a stand out in this department, you can trust the front end. In stead of backing off the throttle I found myself gassing it through these sections.
In the super tight single track I found the manoeuvrability to be on par with my 250 XC.
I would also say that this bike does not tire me out any more then my 250 XC.

Motor Comments

The motor on this bike is a true stand out. It is so flexible and puts the power down unbelievable. I never felt like I was fighting the power or that it was pushing me through the corners. It is not abrupt or violent off idle and there is always a just the right amount of power. Over all I would say the power is very comparably to a 300KTM with out the work.

Suspension

Soft is the word that you have to use. After about 2 hours of seat time the front fork was broken in and too soft for my 220 lbs geared up rider weight.
In all fairness to the bike I have yet to touch a clicker or measure the sag. I suspect I will be going with some stiff springs soon.
Other then being soft everything works very nicely with no real drama. For me it is hard to wrap my head around the fact that this is the same WP product that I have been fighting with for years

Fit and Finish

This is where KTM has always been good and Husaberg is basically a yellow Ktm. All the bits and pieces are KTM and the same attention to detail is there. I really like the colour scheme in real life and the rims in blue a sweet.

Conclusions

I have to say that of all the bikes I have owed over the years, I am happier with this bike straight out of the box then any other, it is better then my 08 250XC that I had spent thousands on to make work right.
Yes the bike is heavy in some situations, but even in these situations, the bike is very manageable for me at my size 6ft , 210lbs and I think with stiffer springs most of these traits will disappear.

So, for anyone out there in the Pacific Northwest that is concerned about buying this heavy four stroke. Take it from this hard core two stroke guy. This thing flat works!


Looki
 
Thanks for the ride reports.

Had ordered a 2010 FE450 but have recently changed my mind. Reports like yours only confirm my decision. Thanks!!
 
Re: RE: 2010 390 Ride Report Version #2

Taffy said:
nice one looki

let us know where you live please?

regards

Taffy

Hey Guys

I Live in Britsh Columbia , Canada. Vancouver Island to be exact.

looki
 
RE: Re: RE: 2010 390 Ride Report Version #2

put it in your signature there's a good fella.

regards

Taffy
 
Hi Looki, I'm in mill bay, VI and I wonder where you live and where you got the 390. Kenco? Didn't know they were available yet.

I just spent a few days riding near Port Alberni and one of the guys was on a 09 450 another on an 08 KTM 250 XCW and another on a 09 300 Gas Gas. Plus me on my old berg.

I'm eying up the 390 as my next bike and would be keen to meet for a ride some time.
 
trevr450, I'd hate to think that you cancelled your berg order on one ride report from someone that came off a 250cc. Ease up tiger ! No comparison was made to the useable grunt of the 390 over the 250 either. At 220lbs, the bike needs to be re-sprung and tuned to gain optimal performance for the rider. Get a test ride on one & make the decision for yourself, there's a local berg dealer somewhere near you, surely.
 
looking to maybe get a 390 as for most of my riding conditions thats all i need but as wildman says its goin to need suspension work to carry my 280lbs - it had no problem luggin me around the sand mx test track in colorado - hence why i'm goin to wait until they start hitting the 2nd hand market, also i dont want to take the £2000 hit that the '09's seem to have lost in the first 12 months
 
Looki, glad to see your enjoying your new toy! Where did you pick it up? Kenco? How much if you dont mind me asking? If you ever head up to mid island area hit me up and we'll get out for a ride, I'd love to see one of the 390's in the flesh...

Patrick
 
Hey Pat! What you doin lurking in here? Not thinking of joining the berg collective are ya? :lol:
 
Hey Loz16 and lonewolf

I ride at Shawnigan most weekends, drop me a line if you guys get out that way.

Looki
 
Mr Wildman I certainly did not change my mind on the strength of one ride report.

It was at least six different ride reports and another self assessment on my riding abilities in the local areas that I will be riding in. My riding abilities are modest to say the least and I would rather finesse a bike around instead of using a lot of muscle. I am more of a trail rider than an enduro rider. I am someone who just likes to go out and mainly potter around and enjoy the great outdoors. I work nightshift six days a week and I am usually quite knackered even before I head out.

I like to put in around 150-200ks in a decent day ride and currently my 640 Adventure knocks the crap out of me in the 'technical' bits. I just want to ride something that is not so intimidating when the track turns nasty.
 
So what are you thinking about getting now? I'm curious what part of the ride report put you off the berg; I thought it was quite a positive report. Just wondering.....It's certainly a big change from the 640 and not as comfortable I think but much lighter. You'd be searching out the techy bits of trail I reckon :lol:
 
Trevr,

That is exactly where I am at, then add in the further problem that I am past my prime (55), out of shape (back injuries + driving a desk the last ten years = huffing and puffing if I even look at a trail), and not having ridden off-road much in the last decade or so.

But I wanted something that had a bit more oomph than my DR350 to get out of the way of cars if/when I rode the pavement to the trails. So I looked around for the lightest 600cc class bike with the most capable suspension that was very dirt oriented, but at the same time wasn't so brutal in power delivery that I would be struggling with it. The Husky 610 was more dual sport and 50 to 60 pounds heavier. The Husky 510 was about the same weight but the suspension components weren't as good as the Husaberg. I don't like orange so the Katooms were out (seriously, if I am going to get a KTM why not just go ahead and get a Husaberg? - besides, I like blue).

The Japanese 600cc class bikes were all heavier (I looked at the XR650R, but it is impossible to get plated here) and not as well suspended.

I liked the very tame linear power delivery of the new Hussies, but at the same time there is plenty of power there if I want it. Do I wish I had a lighter bike? Sure. But I don't want to be mixing it up on the pavement with a 250, and forget about getting two strokes licensed here.

What's the alternative? What about the new Husabergs makes you think they will beat you up like a bike that weighs one hundred more pounds than they do?

If you are going to go with a trail bike you have to haul to the trail instead of ride, sure there are better choices, but for an all-around off-road bike the new Hussies are great, although expensive. As Bueller said, ' If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up.'
 
I have one question, are all these Ride Reports with a Green Sticker bike, or has it been deregulated (throtle stop, exaust cat converter, exhaust end plug, remapped ecu)?
 
Apologies for some confusion I may have caused. I guess I was not too clear. I LOVE the FE390 (and the FE450 & FE570)
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I have been lusting after a FE450 'Berg for more than a year now and really wanted to be the first to own one when they arrived here last November. Around Easter I came very close to purchasing the shop's very well looked after demo bike. A month ago I put a deposit on a 2010 model FE450. I have only changed my mind to a FE390!!

Where I live, I can be riding nice bush trails less than five minutes after starting the bike. I am in a very lucky location. There are plenty of trails and tracks for all types here - from nice and open to seriously gnarly conditions. Also there is a lot of old gold miming history here and this is something I want to explore more.

Almost every day I have different thoughts on the most suitable bike for me. I would quite like the power of the FE570 at times. The FE450 would be the great all rounder and the FE390 best in the real tricky conditions. It is a real, real close decision on the FE390/450. I need the bike to meet my riding needs for many years.
 
I only rode the 390 a small amount of time. And it was not setup for me so I could not get a good feel for it. From what I did experience. I felt that it was a strong puller. I had do run it a higher revs then I would with my larger bike.

All of this begs the question. With all the mapping choices that the new bergs give. What would the difference in proformance be between a 390 in its highest mapping setting? And a 570 in the Beginner setting?
 
I think how any bike seems to a rider will depend on their experience and other bikes they have ridden. I haven't ridden that many dirt bikes, and none of them could compare to the Hussy (my last dirt bike was a DR350), and my skill is pretty much beginner level. I haven't ridden the 390 or the 450. I have been told that experienced riders can tell the difference, especially back to back.

When I went riding last weekend I was playing with the map switch, but I forgot which numbers were for which map, so I can't say for sure. I am pretty sure there were differences, and I think the 'aggressive' mode made a difference, especially in the upper RPMs. Most of my riding is tech trails and my skill level is way low, so I don't really need the power except on pavement to make sure I don't get run over. I think most of the time I will be riding it in mild mode.
 
I think some people maybe getting a bit brainwashed with the mapping setiings.
I dont think full power on a 390 would be like 570 any more than soft on 570 would be like 390, the cc difference and inertia takes care of that.
The best mod to make the 570 more capable and tractable is the rekluse. then if its even half dry going with open sections out of the woods , i would have it set on full power mode to take advantage of the extra cubes, this will actually get you out of trouble a lot of the time and you can wring its neck on the straights, using its full potential.
If its tight 2nd 3rd max then standard. If like torrential rain, tight, muddy, slippery trials then soft mode.

Heres a link to our two berg boys in the UK with a report for sept, Tom Sagar won GBXC
and Ollie Moyce just picked up a 390 a few weeks ago, he raced at canada heights (in uk) and likes the bike . Hes been fiddling with mapping, so be interesting to see his reports over this coming year.

http://www.midwesthusaberg.co.uk/

Heres some good quality vids taken by Lee Bartram of local club races we do in the south UK.
This is one lap of canada heights, the 390.450, 570 would all do well here.

[vimeo:lxbxxuqm]http://www.vimeo.com/5188628[/vimeo:lxbxxuqm]

This is lap over at ashdown, nice for 570, flowing woods and open as well.

[vimeo:lxbxxuqm]http://www.vimeo.com/5789083[/vimeo:lxbxxuqm]

This as alap at Pen wood newbury. This one is tight woods for four hours, mainly 2nd. Tires me out in the last hour as theres no open bits for 570. 390 would def be best here or 125 2st

[vimeo:lxbxxuqm]http://www.vimeo.com/5377642[/vimeo:lxbxxuqm]

Cheers,
Nick
 
NKW570 said:
I think some people maybe getting a bit brainwashed with the mapping setiings.
I dont think full power on a 390 would be like 570 any more than soft on 570 would be like 390, the cc difference and inertia takes care of that.
The best mod to make the 570 more capable and tractable is the rekluse. then if its even half dry going with open sections out of the woods , i would have it set on full power mode to take advantage of the extra cubes, this will actually get you out of trouble a lot of the time and you can wring its neck on the straights, using its full potential.
If its tight 2nd 3rd max then standard. If like torrential rain, tight, muddy, slippery trials then soft mode.

Heres a link to our two berg boys in the UK with a report for sept, Tom Sagar won GBXC
and Ollie Moyce just picked up a 390 a few weeks ago, he raced at canada heights (in uk) and likes the bike . Hes been fiddling with mapping, so be interesting to see his reports over this coming year.





http://www.midwesthusaberg.co.uk/

Heres some good quality vids taken by Lee Bartram of local club races we do in the south UK.
This is one lap of canada heights, the 390.450, 570 would all do well here.

http://www.vimeo.com/5188628

This is lap over at ashdown, nice for 570, flowing woods and open as well.

http://www.vimeo.com/5789083

This as alap at Pen wood newbury. This one is tight woods for four hours, mainly 2nd. Tires me out in the last hour as theres no open bits for 570. 390 would def be best here or 125 2st

http://www.vimeo.com/5377642

Cheers,
Nick

Hey Nick

I agree on the CDI settings. I think people put more importance on this then there is effect.

BTW thanks for the video links, In your part of the world what qualifies for tight is considered opened and flowing in my part.

Cheers

Looki
 

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