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2009 BERG TECH COURSE

Joined Jun 2005
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Oregon
WOW these 09 bikes are truly amazing. above and beyond anything I thought previously. Thanks to all the dealers that decided to move their tech class back to the last course avail...I just attended and was 1 on 1 with the instructor. Excellent course in case anyone is not sure if they should attend.

Got to love Husaberg :D

Kurt
 
they taught you all about that lefty loosy, righty tighty stuff????

:)

any cardinal rules or hot tips, besides the above?
 
Re: RE: 2009 BERG TECH COURSE

fryguy said:
they taught you all about that lefty loosy, righty tighty stuff????...UH OH 8O ... :)

:)

any cardinal rules or hot tips, besides the above?

A little bit of good info for the 09...once its been run-in at the dealership for it "burn-in" time, and the rider happens to go somewhere where the temps and or air quality is significantly different, then the customer should start the bike, dont rev it and let it idle for 15 min...this will ensure un-interrupted (stalling) fun for the rest of the day.. your bike may die after 1st start-up, should continue to run after second start-up. Again, this is with extreme changes...minor changes will be worked out as you ride. The major adjustments will also, eventually work themselves out too, but if you let the bike idle for a while and let is make its changes before you hit the trails, then even better.

Ambient air temp, fuel quality and air flow all factors to keep in mind, so keep the air cleaners clean.
 
Right on Kurt,

Thanks for the info.

A question was put to me the other day by a long time riding partner. He asked what fuel I was using and I just told him I use Shell 91 octane fuel from the station where I get my vehicle fuel. He wasn't so sure that this was the greatest idea, since Kaleefornia gasoline is known to have high degree of clean burn additives, now mainly methanol.

Should I consider using a 95 octane race gas for consistency?

Dale
 
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bikebarnbeckman said:
fryguy said:
they taught you all about that lefty loosy, righty tighty stuff????...UH OH 8O ... :)

:)

any cardinal rules or hot tips, besides the above?

A little bit of good info for the 09...once its been run-in at the dealership for it "burn-in" time, and the rider happens to go somewhere where the temps and or air quality is significantly different, then the customer should start the bike, dont rev it and let it idle for 15 min...this will ensure un-interrupted (stalling) fun for the rest of the day.. your bike may die after 1st start-up, should continue to run after second start-up. Again, this is with extreme changes...minor changes will be worked out as you ride. The major adjustments will also, eventually work themselves out too, but if you let the bike idle for a while and let is make its changes before you hit the trails, then even better.

Ambient air temp, fuel quality and air flow all factors to keep in mind, so keep the air cleaners clean.

15 minutes? I would think you would have a melted engine by then. I heard 5 minutes but I may have been too excited about the bike and not paying close attention to the tech when I picked up my bike
 
that was my concern too....however, correct burn-in time is around 10 minutes, so 15 minutes will make sure you clear the required time in case there are other distractions, etc.
 
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ktmwes said:
bikebarnbeckman said:
fryguy said:
they taught you all about that lefty loosy, righty tighty stuff????...UH OH 8O ... :)

:)

any cardinal rules or hot tips, besides the above?

A little bit of good info for the 09...once its been run-in at the dealership for it "burn-in" time, and the rider happens to go somewhere where the temps and or air quality is significantly different, then the customer should start the bike, dont rev it and let it idle for 15 min...this will ensure un-interrupted (stalling) fun for the rest of the day.. your bike may die after 1st start-up, should continue to run after second start-up. Again, this is with extreme changes...minor changes will be worked out as you ride. The major adjustments will also, eventually work themselves out too, but if you let the bike idle for a while and let is make its changes before you hit the trails, then even better.

Ambient air temp, fuel quality and air flow all factors to keep in mind, so keep the air cleaners clean.

15 minutes? I would think you would have a melted engine by then. I heard 5 minutes but I may have been too excited about the bike and not paying close attention to the tech when I picked up my bike

15 minutes is the same time recommended by KTM with the 690.
It solved my stalling issues I had after installing FMF slip-on.

M.
 
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just to make sure, this 15 min, you do this only once right? not every time you change conditions??
 
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okle said:
just to make sure, this 15 min, you do this only once right? not every time you change conditions??

Every time you change conditions extremely.
Like going from 7000' to sea level.
Like changing exhaust.
Etc.

M.
 
this 15 min warm up to adjust for altitude it does sound very logical to me
the only sensor that could adjust for altitude would be the MAP sensor it could do that
during start up and wide open throttle, that how other efi sys dealing with altitude,unless the efi sys.has a baro sensor but in the owners manual there is code
for that sensor
the only thing that 15 min warm could do depending how complex the sys. is ,
if efi sys. has a wide band 02 sensor and adjust the fuel trim to compensate for altitude
but that would not be very dynamic way of dealing with altitude
so i am very curious to how this really works

later Per
 
Great info Kurt.
If you don't mind saying , where was the class held .
I think I read in your post that it was in or somewhere near Kentucky.
I am in mid-tn and wondered if it was near me.

Thanks,RMll
 
the bottom line is, the bike will make its own adjustments as needed depending on conditions...even while riding...however, if you want your ride to start off trouble free then let the bike adapt to the altitude and temp change while you gear up...thats all.

your dealer will do the 15 minute run in before the bike goes out the door. but if you buy the bike at sea level, then drive to Colorado and are about to ride at a high altitude, let the bike warm up with hands off the throttle while you gear up...

no big deal, just an obvious point...if you change conditions on a carb bike, you need to change jetting to get it to run properly...no different, except the bike will adjust the length of time that the injector will remain open depending on air pressure (O2 levels) and temp.
 
bikebarnbeckman said:
the bottom line is, the bike will make its own adjustments as needed depending on conditions...even while riding...however, if you want your ride to start off trouble free then let the bike adapt to the altitude and temp change while you gear up...thats all.

your dealer will do the 15 minute run in before the bike goes out the door. but if you buy the bike at sea level, then drive to Colorado and are about to ride at a high altitude, let the bike warm up with hands off the throttle while you gear up...

no big deal, just an obvious point...if you change conditions on a carb bike, you need to change jetting to get it to run properly...no different, except the bike will adjust the length of time that the injector will remain open depending on air pressure (O2 levels) and temp.

On my 690 doing so was not an issue since the bike had a build in fan.
On the Berg without a fan, the bike will over heat and I wouldn't recommend that.
If doing it with a fan is not possible, I would think that better not doing it at all.

M.
 
quote]

On my 690 doing so was not an issue since the bike had a build in fan.
On the Berg without a fan, the bike will over heat and I wouldn't recommend that.
If doing it with a fan is not possible, I would think that better not doing it at all.

M.[/quote]

For what it's worth.........

I say maybe on that one.........I warmed up my bike the other day in the garage to do an oil change and I let it run for at least 10, maybe even 15 minutes and the fan never turned on.
 
dale : your fan is broken! ;-)

bur seriously, unless the outside temerature is extremely hot, i have the experience that 10- 15 mins is no problem at all on my 2004 450.
 
i tried that with my new fs570 and it was overheating a pissing coolant before the 15 mins was up. im installing a fan in the am and my ecu should be here tomorrow so i can adjust things with my user setting tool. rm
 
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VIKING said:
this 15 min warm up to adjust for altitude it does sound very logical to me
the only sensor that could adjust for altitude would be the MAP sensor it could do that
during start up and wide open throttle, that how other efi sys dealing with altitude,unless the efi sys.has a baro sensor but in the owners manual there is code
for that sensor
the only thing that 15 min warm could do depending how complex the sys. is ,
if efi sys. has a wide band 02 sensor and adjust the fuel trim to compensate for altitude
but that would not be very dynamic way of dealing with altitude
so i am very curious to how this really works

later Per

I never saw this post before, I like VIKINGS thinking, where has that man gone? Interesting no one ever answered his question. :roll:
I will have to add 15minutes to my signature too :lol: So letting an LDC idle for 5 min must do nothing :lol:
Arrrr I'm confused :lol:
 
Hi guys,

Just wondering how come one of our dealer members can't get some accurate info (from the factory) on how the 09 and later efi works? :?

Is it top secret, in which case if they told us they would have to kill us and since it wouldn't be easy to kill us all they have decided to just keep us guessing :?:

The truth is out there :)

Steve
 
Davo wrote
I never saw this post before, I like VIKINGS thinking, where has that man gone? Interesting no one ever answered his question.
nothing has changed nobody has answered those questions, so I just start warm up for a couple of minutes and ride no problems encountered other than dirty fuel filter that led to bad injector and yes I am alive

later Per
 

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