okay....finding TDC on my 1999 berg FE400 the "old fashioned way" is impossible. When using the kickstarter to seek the resistance of compression,the only resistance felt is when the rockers come up on the cam lobes. This resistance is considerable (unlike any 4 stroke I have ever owned). At first, I thought that was the piston coming up on compression. But the kickstarters auto-decompressor cable engages any time the kickstarter moves, and with the compression released, tdc has no detectable "feel". So, it is the opening of the intake and exhaust valves I feel, neither of which is distinguishable from the other. At this point, I simply kick, and kick, and kick, and kick some more, until the planets align, and the cumbustion-gods allow, at some point, the piston to be in the proper place when some random kick finally ignites the beast. Any one have any helpful tips on how to actually find tdc, so i can have a predictable starting drill?
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i would say your auto decompression is out of adjustment mate down load the manual and set it up you should be able to feel it when you come to tdc
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You should be able to fing TDC by not allowing the kickstart to return to the top of its stroke. Only allow it to go 3/4 up, then push down and you should feel full compression.
That works for my 501.
When my battery was dead one day, my bike refused to kickstart. So instead of kicking until I was exhausted, I hooked a tow strap to the foot peg and tow started it. Not exactly the purists' way of doing it, but better than starting a ride completely exhausted. :wink:
That works for my 501.
When my battery was dead one day, my bike refused to kickstart. So instead of kicking until I was exhausted, I hooked a tow strap to the foot peg and tow started it. Not exactly the purists' way of doing it, but better than starting a ride completely exhausted. :wink:
your 99 fe should start very easy.check your valves and jetting.my 99 would start in two or three kicks avery time no matter were i had the kick starter .you have other issues ....bergdaddy
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Kickstarting
I agree with splat1
I slightly use the manual decompression lever, only let the kickstart return 3/4 'ish (so not activating the auto decomp - if activated a click is heard). Kick slowly until increased resistance is felt. Return the kickstarter to 3/4 'ish position again - then kick through. Wey hey blat blat blat - that's if the bl**dy carb's not flooding like mine.
Rowley
I agree with splat1
I slightly use the manual decompression lever, only let the kickstart return 3/4 'ish (so not activating the auto decomp - if activated a click is heard). Kick slowly until increased resistance is felt. Return the kickstarter to 3/4 'ish position again - then kick through. Wey hey blat blat blat - that's if the bl**dy carb's not flooding like mine.
Rowley
set valves, they are spot-on (thats how I found out the resisitance was the springs!). Cleaned the filters. Replaced the plug. Will check the auto-decompressor (there is no manual decomp) adjustment. Too bad that husagerg didnt just include some simple little indicator like my 78 TT500 had! Thing is, the bike runs so damn well when it finally starts. It idles perfectly, absolutely RIPS at the slightest twist of the throttle. So jetting is something I wont mess with. Besides, it starts the same at 7000 feet as it does at 1500, so im thinkin jetting isnt it. I'll try the 3/4 of the way up trick when I get the bike back from the shop. I am sure if i knew where TDC was, the bike would start easily. My xr650 always starts on the first or second kick, so long as its at tdc when I try. Anyplace else, and the pig wont start. Im sure this is common to all four strokes, more than to what brand is on the sidecover. Thats been my experience. The only unique aspect of the berg has been the unbelievably stiff valve springs. No wonder the rocker arm bearings dont last.
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Don't even worry about piston position. Just get a good full stroke on the lever.
On all my bergs, they don't like much choke. On when cold, but get rid of choke at the first cough, otherwise it will flood on the next kick and will take a bit to clear out. If it is around freezing the choke needs to be left on.
On all my bergs, they don't like much choke. On when cold, but get rid of choke at the first cough, otherwise it will flood on the next kick and will take a bit to clear out. If it is around freezing the choke needs to be left on.
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