At least it didn't get me a 2nd time. :lol:velosapiens said:lol, the dreaded irrigation pipe. i have ridden over that with Hokie from ktmtalk (he crashed), and then i took lizard killer over it in the fall i think. she crashed too. i've always just crossed it way over by the edge of the trail where the bike can only slide a few inches before hitting the bank of the wash. maybe it needs a warning sign.