We are not alone.....FI issues.

Barshoe · Dec 13, 2011

KTM is really getting it's *** kicked on the other websites. Tons of bad fuel pumps and injector issues....

http://beta.thumpertalk.com/topic/89796 ... ssue-2012/

Busa10 · Dec 14, 2011

I suppose they're using the same crappy Chinese fuel pump.

DaleEO · Dec 16, 2011

The japanese brands have also had their issues...................lots of them, they just don't get talked about by the magazines.

Suzuki had a terrible time with thermal run a way conditions on their pumps early on, japanese pumps, not hech en chino pumps.

IMHO one of the best things you can do is purchase one of the profill drop in filters for your filler neck on your fuel tank to help keep out the dirt.

Dale

pegscraper · Dec 16, 2011

DaleEO said:
IMHO one of the best things you can do is purchase one of the profill drop in filters for your filler neck on your fuel tank to help keep out the dirt.

Dale

x2.

Probably THE best thing in fact. Keep the c**p out of the tank in the first place. Never be without mine.

Hoosaberg · Dec 16, 2011

The irony here is that over the last ten years I haven't had a single issue with the fuel injection on my Harley. Maybe all the manufactures need to look to Harley for help in making their F.I. systems reliable :mrgreen: .

JRDoz · Dec 17, 2011

Hoosaberg said:
The irony here is that over the last ten years I haven't had a single issue with the fuel injection on my Harley. Maybe all the manufactures need to look to Harley for help in making their F.I. systems reliable :mrgreen: .

Or maybe GasGas. I never had a single worry during my ownership with one.

My Husaberg fuel pump failed at 1200kms and just over a year old (Early 2011 model)

pegscraper · Dec 17, 2011

The FI system on my 04 R1 ran perfectly from day 1. Not so much as a cough in over 24k miles and the fuelling was spot on from tickover to redline. Still running perfectly when I sold it and that's with no tank neck filter and the original fuel filter still in place. The only reason I can see for a manufacturer using the Chinese pumps is lower build cost = more profit. JMO

Busa10 · Dec 17, 2011

pegscraper said:
The FI system on my 04 R1 ran perfectly from day 1. Not so much as a cough in over 24k miles and the fuelling was spot on from tickover to redline. Still running perfectly when I sold it and that's with no tank neck filter and the original fuel filter still in place. The only reason I can see for a manufacturer using the Chinese pumps is lower build cost = more profit. JMO

I've got a 2000 Suzuki Hayabusa and 2009 FE450 and still no FI issues whatsoever. I know of several Harleys with ongoing FI problems. So there you have it... you never know.

BTW Pegscraper, sorry for your Border Collie loss this past year. Awesome companions. Lost one years ago that was almost twenty. Current one (Enzo) is nine. He is a real joy too.

Noppy · Jan 12, 2012

Perhaps bacteria infection? That may be the reason that it seems to happen so randomly...

easyrider · Jan 12, 2012

Comparing road bike and dirt bike fuel systems is a bit of a cop out imho unless you ride your roadie in the scrub.

Dirt bikes are far more susceptible to failure due to the environmental conditions they run in, ie dirt, mud, rough terrain, sand, deep water, all environments that can lead to failure. Basically they get the crap pounded out of them.

I am by no means making excuses for the faults in ktm pumps, they are hit and miss. Hopefully some pump manufacturer can get it right.
And while their at it, they need to sort out the cam chain tentioner as well.

brian011952 · Jan 12, 2012

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and probably jinx myself, but I think there is one area that cn be fixed fairly inexpensively. I immediately installed a Can-Am fuel filter in the line. That was 1200 miles ago, and I've had no issues at all. This was reccomended by the Australian team that is in Dakar right now.

JRDoz · Jan 12, 2012

brian011952 said:
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and probably jinx myself, but I think there is one area that cn be fixed fairly inexpensively. I immediately installed a Can-Am fuel filter in the line. That was 1200 miles ago, and I've had no issues at all. This was reccomended by the Australian team that is in Dakar right now.

I also run the Can-am filter they use. It doesn't however help if the pump is not good enough. I had a clean tank and new internal filters and my pump still failed !!!

brian011952 · Jan 13, 2012

JRDoz said:
brian011952 said:

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and probably jinx myself, but I think there is one area that cn be fixed fairly inexpensively. I immediately installed a Can-Am fuel filter in the line. That was 1200 miles ago, and I've had no issues at all. This was reccomended by the Australian team that is in Dakar right now.

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I also run the Can-am filter they use. It doesn't however help if the pump is not good enough. I had a clean tank and new internal filters and my pump still failed !!!

You have a point. Like I said, I'll probably jinx myself, but at least fully half of the posts about this issue that I have read deal with a clogged injector. The other half are about failed pumps. I think I'm going to buy an extra pump and carry it with me as a spare, I ride some long distances through the back country. I figure it's cheap insurance.

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