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Vanishing Trails, AMA mag for Dec 2007

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Hi, all.....
Just got my American Motorcyclist for Dec. 2007, this is an excerpt from the "Vanishing Trails" article on preliminary decisions being made after groups and individuals cataloged existing trails for inclusion in permitted riding areas.

"The Forest Service appeared to be cooperating with that effort, releasing specific guidelines for trail users who wanted to use handheld GPS units to map these long-standing trails that may not have been known to forest managers. The National Off-Highway Vehicle Conservation Council even produced a DVD describing the entire mapping procedure to get riders up to speed on the process.

Across the country, many motorcycle and ATV groups followed those instructions and filed their trails with forest officials. In California, $12 million was even transferred to the Forest Service from the state’s OHV trust fund to perform this trail research.

So how much impact is this effort having on travel management plans? So far, in those forests that have reached the stage where they are releasing their updated trail maps, not much:

In the 1.8-million-acre Coconino National Forest in Arizona, officials are proposing designating a paltry 24.5 miles of motorcycle trails.
In the 564,000-acre Apalachicola National Forest in Florida, the proposed travel management plan calls for just 55 miles of motorcycle trails and 34 miles of OHV trails.
The 1.2-million-acre Black Hills National Forest in South Dakota plans to allow just 79 miles of single-track motorcycle trail. This is a forest that has more than 10,000 miles of roads and trails already in existence. And officials are proposing cutting that back to less than 4,000.
Officials in the 1.9-million-acre Inyo National Forest in California have proposed just 16 miles of motorcycle trails and 37 miles of motorcycle/ATV trails. Another 3 miles may be added later.

That doesn’t mean these are the only routes open to motorized vehicles in these forests. For instance, in the Inyo National Forest, officials have included some 900 miles of existing, user-generated motorized routes in the proposed plan. Most of that total represents dirt roads for which a use permit exists now or was issued at some time in the past. But what’s been lost, in every one of these cases, are the user-created motorcycle and ATV trails so painstakingly documented by riders in the past year.

As if that wasn’t bad enough, off-road riders in some of these areas are telling us that the route maps being published by forest officials make it impossible to use even the few remaining miles of trail. They note that, in many cases, the new maps don’t include enough landmarks for a rider to know where the trails are. And if they wander off the designated trails, riders face fines of up to $5,000.

Maine is already almost unrideable, with a immense amount of acreage either owned or controlled by non-public organizations.
 
This is sad, because off-roading is often misrepresented in the media. Maybe that's what should also be done, along with documenting the trails: public relations.
 
hehe, I may be part of the tinfoil hat crowd, but if the government asked me to map my trails "for inclusion", I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have fallen for that :)

thanks,
json
 
That's because you've never been to one of these workshops. Plenty of riding areas will disappear if noone mark these trails. They are illegal to begin with, but many areas are just open with no control whatsoever, just a bunch of trails where riding is tolerated. Such is the case of Sycamore Creek in Arizona. The issue is that some enviro-nazis, who somehow have decided that these trails, which represent only about .05% of the entire State's surface, were a major threat to the eco system and that the Arizona was in danger because of that. Interestingly, they never take on the military, who owns a big piece of real estate in the South of the State, where they conduct artillery and bombing tests, as well as tread wildly in all directions in any type of armored vehicle you can imagine.

If we do not document these trails, we are going to lose them eventually, period.
 
Good point, froggy. According to the report, marking them is working smashingly for you.

thanks,
json
 
Re: RE: Vanishing Trails, AMA mag for Dec 2007

schwim said:
Good point, froggy. According to the report, marking them is working smashingly for you.

thanks,
json

At least, even if they close the trails in the end, we will be able to say we did something to prevent it. And even then, the resistance can only get stronger.

They are on the wrong track, they are turning potential allies into enemies, because we are a more convenient target.
 
Lefrog and other users of AZ trails you better grow some horns because I know there is
more trail than 24.5 miles of trail in coconino NF if no one protest FS will consider this as
fact and take the easy way out and that is a victory for the greenies

good luck VIKING
 
We are acting, believe me. Berger by the way has to be one of the most active person I know when it comes to riders rights in Arizona. I just attend meetings and give my support and offer my time to those who spend the time (and money) to do all of this. It's the minimum that we can all do, to go pick up the trash, provide GPS logs and just show up at meetings, to show that there is support from the riders, because when we're invited to a meeting where enviros are also invited, we'd better show up in numbers and with a good positive attitude (because they sure don't bring it).
 
Good show Lefrog and berger
there is so much scenery in AZ it would be foolish to take no for an answer I know it is
frustrating but it is the only way that I know of. let me know if there is any thing that could do?

VIKING
 
This issue is everywhere, hell I'm fighting with my local County Commissioners over alot of the same issues. Much like fire government is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. What many people on both sides of the fight seem to be missing is that the answer is not more government intrusion, this fact is absolutly lost on the greenies. More and more government leads to Totalitarianism or total government, some of you older guys might remember it used to be called Communisim. It has never "worked" and it never will. I fear that much like Barstow to Vegas in the future we will have to ride in defiance, after all wasn't it Thomas Jefferson who said every once in a while a little Revolution is a good thing ? Please be involved on some level either monetarily, writing letter attend meetings, when you know a guy like Berger give em a hand shake and a pat on the back, say thanks for what you are doing we all need encouragment. Long live the Republic !

Ron
 
You mean this quote,

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

By Thomas Jefferson? (I like the original gory version best)
 
Check this out appalach. forest has an orangestriped salamander that can travel at least 1500 ft. to go from waterhole to waterhole.I want to see the back pack cooler it carries!Our sand is also slipping away from under our nobbies.Lost in the sand dust BM 501.
 

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