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Value of bergs

Joined Sep 2004
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Clovis, CA USA!
I was searching around the internet and found that Cycletrader and a few other sites have, realativly speaking, a large number of bergs for sale, and a quite few from the mid ninties to early 2000, and the prices seem to be coming up? A couple of years ago, trying to sell a berg was a painful experience, as it was VERY difficult to get what they were worth, I know from personal experience. on the flip side, buying one was just the opposite, as their loss was your gain.

I am just interested in hearing more knowledgable opinions than mine( not to say I have any knowledgable opinions) on how the increased reliability and positive press have impacted sales of older bikes? has it at all? is it still to soon to tell? Are people still having a difficult time selling? are they still being listed for long periods of time? are people getting closer to what we all know they are worth? are the dealers who are selling used bikes being able to sell them for more? are people still parting out out instead of selling a complete bike?

It seems that we get a number of requests for "Whats it worth?, is it a good buy?, etc. and I was wondering if people thought it would be a good idea if we set up a berg buying/selling guide. No mention of dollar amounts or ranges as those are in the KBB or NADA guides (not that those are all that accurate based on the amount of avaiable data for bergs), but things like what to look for and such and what things bring top dollar and what will cost the seller if it is not fixed or addressed. (eg. selling and 02 or older without the updates, etc.) Buying a berg, if you are not knowledgeable can be difficult as there are usually not a lot of comparisons or people to ask.


Please, I don't want it to be a dicussion about any bikes' specific asking price as that is a touchy subject. (I have been guilty of broaching that in the past, it just makes people mad)
 
I don't know about the resale going up, I have had a 06 450 for sale for about 2 months, and still no bites. That's the only bad thing of owning a Berg, they are hard to resale. I think the price is reasonable, but I haven't had even a nibble. Before I give it away I will ride it for a practice bike and dual sporting.
 
Those are asking prices. Some bikes on CT stay there forever because the seller is in no hurry. But eventually the selling price will be lower.
 
LeFrog said:
Those are asking prices. Some bikes on CT stay there forever because the seller is in no hurry. But eventually the selling price will be lower.
believe me, I understand that they are "asking prices", but it seems to me that the asking prices are bit higher than they used to be. it is by no means a scientific evaluation I know, but I was just looking for seat of the pants feelings on the general state of older berg resale, or should we call it "gifting"
 
I think others are simply of the same mindset that many of us find ourselves:

If parts availability has improved, and the brand has begun to be better accepted(articles and advertising), then the bike should be worth more. When people were sitting on their Bergs for years at a time, the two reasons they cited was that nobody knew what the bike was and didn't trust a bike they weren't aware of, and the fact that it took a year sometimes to get a part.

With the increasing popularity of the bike, maybe these guys simply think that it should fetch a better price. That would be take on it if I were selling.

thanks,
json
 
I'm pretty sure here in NorCal I could get $5500 for my 06 Fe450e as a new one is 8100 and my berg has 110 hours and is in fine condition.

I'm keeping it.
 
I think to the general public its a mind set thing. I do get teed off with some people acting like a berg is a blowed up Hodaka. For what these bikes cost they should have a high resell value. Once again its a mindset thing.
 
As more and more people start buying them, the resale will get better. Look at Husky, even 3-4 yrs ago, they were a tough sell used. Nowadays, a used TE250/450 is an easy bike to re-sell.
 
The problem is that a lot of people bought their toys when they had a lot of extra money. Since the recession, most have been making less or making just the same, while prices have gone up. Lots of toys from the 2000-2003 year models on the market, now.
 
i think the reason that they're not morte succesful out the door in the first place is because of the resale to cost new price. husaberg ask about the same money for a new bike as katoom. the build quality is nearly as good but the engine has less power and is older.

you could say you don't #need that much power. in which case go tell ktm 2-3 more and honda -8 more ponies.

so we have a bike that isn't the market leader costing the same. yet ktm prices used hold up far, far better.

husaberg probably don't even think like me on that score yet they should do.

they should look at ways of stopping depreciation or should foot half the bloody bill and make them far cheaper to buy.

they're relying on R & D producing a better, more reliable machine, then word getting out and then and only then will their re-sale value go up. the slow way, the way that costs customers.

husaberg australia had that gimmick last year yet sales keep declining over there. it smacked of desperation.

so price down from new please and then our resale values will also re-cover.

alas the name won't. skoda have worked flat out on their image and it'll take 10 years to change their reputation from a "joke". husaberg don't have anything like those resouirses......

regards

Taffy
 
Taffy said:
husaberg australia had that gimmick last year yet sales keep declining over there. it smacked of desperation.


Taffy

Husaberg Australia get it all wrong (IMHO) :D .

You buy the new model early after release and you pay full retail (KTM like prices)

Then as the year progresses they still charge full retail, but offer freebies (Akrapovics etc) to sweeten the deal.

When the new models are about to be released its firesale time, for about $2000-3000 less than you were paying at the realease of that model.

So the guy who paid full retail for an early bike and wants to sell it gets a kick in the guts because people wont even consider his bike to buy because they can get a new one of that year for the same cost of the now feeling screwed over owners 2nd hand bike.

True, other makers do the same but not the level of discounting the Husaberg recieves.

I could go on (and on) but the above is just 1 of the many reasons why Aussie sales are declining
 
Funny that this topic is coming up, I’m just in the process of trying to sell my 03 fe501e to make some financial space for a 06 fe550e. I’ve been to 1 dealer this weekend so I don’t have very much information but nevertheless I was kind of surprised. This dealer is a hardcore KTM dealer with a little Husaberg on the side. He was eager to buy my 03 because “They don’t stay here longer then a week because the price / quality rate is high”. This could mean bad news because he is not willing to pay a decent price for my 03, on the other side there must be potential buyers who recognize the Husaberg quality and want one.
In the Netherlands the Husaberg’s are being seen as something exotic with poor build quality, this must be a heritage from ancient times.
But knowing that, the surprise is that more and more Husaberg’s are being used on-/ or off-road. This mainly because the only models that can be bought here are always more then a year old, the 07 is not available as far as I know, so the prices now are € 7000,-- for a street legal 05 and about € 8000,-- for a 06, which are decent prices for European standards. (Honda is doing over €10.000,-- and KTM and Yamaha are somewhere in between).
So I think we will see sales increase which is recognized by the above mentioned dealer; he is going to build a new showroom dedicated to our brand. Why? Easy answer; there are too many KTM dealers here and he wants to have a slice of the Husaberg pie once this brand will be accepted by the off-roaders here. (Soon to come?)
So here in the Netherlands we have the following situation; we buy them “cheap” because of the old model situation, and after that we sell them cheap because we bought them cheap….. Maybe this will change if we can buy more recent models.
Anyway I will go back to this dealer and show him my bike and see how much he is willing to offer. I would like to buy a 06 but on the other side….. losing my 03 will hurt a bit!
 
My bike (2000 FC501) was advertised for $2200 (I think, or $2100 can't remember) last July, and I drove home with it (14 hour round trip) for $1400 cash. I still need to sink about $300 into it (fork seals, tires, chain, filter etc.) but I feel it was a deal, because I was happy with what I paid for it, it is exactly the type of bike I sought (big bore 4-stroke MX bike, a little different than everyone else's), and it's the most friggin' cool bike I've ever owned. When I can free up some funds and time, I'm gonna freshen it up and hit some trails, either Cedartown or Durhamtown. But paying for a wedding and buying a house comes first. In the meantime, we'll try to roadrace a round or two on my 400.

-CC
 

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