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Torquing up the forks.09 570

Joined Dec 2008
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Bucks. region ,South East UK
Hi,
I know it says 17nm for top clamps and 12nm for bot but i find the forks twist real easy when you catch a tree or bury the bars.
So, i tend to tweak mine a bit tighter, anyone else do this?
How much torque is too much?

Nick
 
I would say anything more than suggested. The fork tubes are WAAAAAAAY thin and if you over torque them they WILL bind when compressing them. You could play around and see, but I bet that is close to the max.
 
I have not had a problem with them twisting and the bike has taken some good hits. If your tubes/clamps and bolt threads are nice and clean and not binding.
I find I have to torque them all up then go back and forward between the two bolts on an individual clamp a few times to get a good click on each with no further moment of the bolts. I use a wrench with a range 2-36 Nm so it's fairly accurate in the 12-17Nm area.

Chris
 
One other thing.

Make sure the mating surfaces are clean. That seems to help also.
 
NKW570 said:
Hi,
I know it says 17nm for top clamps and 12nm for bot but i find the forks twist real easy when you catch a tree or bury the bars.
So, i tend to tweak mine a bit tighter, anyone else do this?
How much torque is too much?

Nick

I would say you have dirt/dust on teh clamping surfaces, which allows things to get tweaked easier. Remove the front forks from the legs, take the legs out of the clamps and clean everything very well. then reassemble. Things should be much better then.
 
RE: Re: Torquing up the forks.09 570

or fork oil blended with dust

blooday slippery that stuff, i use degreaser to clean the lower clamping surfaces, need to cause I fall off a lot.
 
Pull each bolt out and lube the threads up with something like grease, engine oil, chain lube or anti seize so you can get an accurate torque reading. And use a torque wrench that's max reading is 20-30 Nm. Use one that reads more and the 12 Nm will be a fair bit in error. I have a calibrated 20 Nm one and when it reads 12Nm, my 60 Nm range one reads 8 Nm.

I recall a story told to me about the then new Supersport R6 Yamahas in Jan 2007, or mavbe 06, being setup for racing the first time at Eastern Creek. The Ohlins fork kits fitted specified 10Nm for the lower clamp, and OTTMH standard was 17Nm. Standard clamps and fork tubes. The suspension tuner checked with Ohlins that it wasn't a misprint. He decided to start at 17Nm anyway and see how it went. Riders complained about lack of feel from the front. Torques in the lower clamp were progressively reduced with no other changes and lap times improved. The riders were not told what was done. The final change from 12-10 Nm resulted in 0.6 sec reduction in lap time. The riders were at the time top 5 in the national class in Oz. 2 Nm in the lower clamp and nothing else resulted in 0.6 secs!

Get a calibrated torque wrench and get them right.

Steve
 
steve said:
Pull each bolt out and lube the threads up with something like grease, engine oil, chain lube or anti seize so you can get an accurate torque reading. And use a torque wrench that's max reading is 20-30 Nm. Use one that reads more and the 12 Nm will be a fair bit in error. I have a calibrated 20 Nm one and when it reads 12Nm, my 60 Nm range one reads 8 Nm.

I recall a story told to me about the then new Supersport R6 Yamahas in Jan 2007, or mavbe 06, being setup for racing the first time at Eastern Creek. The Ohlins fork kits fitted specified 10Nm for the lower clamp, and OTTMH standard was 17Nm. Standard clamps and fork tubes. The suspension tuner checked with Ohlins that it wasn't a misprint. He decided to start at 17Nm anyway and see how it went. Riders complained about lack of feel from the front. Torques in the lower clamp were progressively reduced with no other changes and lap times improved. The riders were not told what was done. The final change from 12-10 Nm resulted in 0.6 sec reduction in lap time. The riders were at the time top 5 in the national class in Oz. 2 Nm in the lower clamp and nothing else resulted in 0.6 secs!

Get a calibrated torque wrench and get them right.

Steve

Wow, i will def take more care from now on after reading that steve.
I have a calibrated max 25.

Cheers,
Nick
 

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