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Re: RE: To all 09 & 010 berg riders in the UK

CodeMonkey said:
Details/info so I don't have to register for yet another board?

Hi CodeMonkey,
This is purely to save shipping costs for those who want MexMex s adapter to make an on the fly map switch as shown, for 09/10 model berg riders in the UK.

Example: 1no adapter = $30 shipping, so 5no adapters individually = $150.

5no adapters in one box shipped to me in uk = $30, saving $120.

I would then send each adapter on to those who have ordered.

Cheers,

Nick
 
Hi all,

I have just spoken with Yoram (MexMex) on pm ktm talk and he says we can make a neat switch out of the indicator/flasher switch already on the euro bikes which will be even cheaper as all we need is the adaptor with the correct resistors in wired thro to the map switch plug.
Most of you should have allin one switch with lights, horn and kill on top and flasher switch underneath..not being used because, like me you dont use indicators , right?

Can one of you help me out and put a voltmeter on the indicator switch and get a reading, (i am not electrical minded) for Yoram to make adapter to wire straight into the switch. And any other info you think he might need.

Cheers,

Nick
 
Here is a pic of my switch.

Photo0076.jpg
 
Re: RE: To all 09 & 010 berg riders in the UK

NKW570 said:
CodeMonkey said:
Details/info so I don't have to register for yet another board?

Hi CodeMonkey,
This is purely to save shipping costs for those who want MexMex s adapter to make an on the fly map switch as shown, for 09/10 model berg riders in the UK.

Example: 1no adapter = $30 shipping, so 5no adapters individually = $150.

5no adapters in one box shipped to me in uk = $30, saving $120.

I would then send each adapter on to those who have ordered.

Cheers,

Nick
I meant details on the switch.

I have the switch that comes with the bike, but my understanding is that to switch mappings you have to stop the engine and restart it, such that it then takes about 15 seconds for the EFI to readjust. I was under the impression that this cannot be done on the fly like on some other KTMs.

*That* is what I want details on.
 
Re: RE: To all 09 & 010 berg riders in the UK

CodeMonkey said:
NKW570 said:
CodeMonkey said:
Details/info so I don't have to register for yet another board?

Hi CodeMonkey,
This is purely to save shipping costs for those who want MexMex s adapter to make an on the fly map switch as shown, for 09/10 model berg riders in the UK.

Example: 1no adapter = $30 shipping, so 5no adapters individually = $150.

5no adapters in one box shipped to me in uk = $30, saving $120.

I would then send each adapter on to those who have ordered.

Cheers,

Nick
I meant details on the switch.

I have the switch that comes with the bike, but my understanding is that to switch mappings you have to stop the engine and restart it, such that it then takes about 15 seconds for the EFI to readjust. I was under the impression that this cannot be done on the fly like on some other KTMs.

*That* is what I want details on.

Ok, i'm with you. Well, if its true that the EFI has to readjust from a restart of the engine then thats no good to me really, as i wanted on the fly for racing (soft mode ******* the spark quite a bit thro to 3rd gear and means you get outdragged when you hit the open straights).
There should be a review soon as some already have the adapters and switch.
I will check it out.
On the basis that it is ok, my next post covers some elctrical requirements.

Nick
 
On the basis that the switch can be 'on the fly' whilst riding.
Yoram (mexmex) has asked for the following, for it to be made to work.

I figure out from the manual I have the following wire colors:
Black - right
Purple - Left
Black/Orange - Common

All I need to know is:
1. To verify that those are the color in th plug of the flasher selector
2. To take a photo of the connector or to make me a drawing, so I will understand which is the order of the colors in the connector
3. To make the following test with a simple multimeter:
- Start the multimeter in the function where its sound when both leads touch one each other. It the continuation test.
- Connect one lead to the pin where is the wire Black/Orange
- Connect the other lead to the Black and test if it sound when the selector is on the right position and not in the others
- Repeat the same test but now the 2nd lead is connected to the Purple wire, and selector position is on the left

With all those done, I can build it that way that the right position is the "weak" map, middle the std. map and left the aggressive map.


If anyone can do the above who is also interested, and knows electrics, that would be great.
It would be a shame if it cant adjust on the go but still maybe better to have a switch for trail and special test situations.


Cheers,

Nick
 
NKW, the reason I am pretty sure it is not on the fly was because I was going to buy the KTM switch that was for the bikes that allowed on the fly adjustment. My dealer (Tasky's) is pretty sharp and knows his stuff, said that switch wouldn't work, the EFI won't switch on the fly on the new models, and sold me the pot switch which I just installed today. On the fly would be sweet, and if it were so then I would go for one, but since it isn't I am not going to bother.
 
CodeMonkey said:
NKW, the reason I am pretty sure it is not on the fly was because I was going to buy the KTM switch that was for the bikes that allowed on the fly adjustment. My dealer (Tasky's) is pretty sharp and knows his stuff, said that switch wouldn't work, the EFI won't switch on the fly on the new models, and sold me the pot switch which I just installed today. On the fly would be sweet, and if it were so then I would go for one, but since it isn't I am not going to bother.

Ok, lets put things in order.

1 - The reason your dealer didn't sell you the KTM switch is simple - It won't fit. The KTM switch is ON/OFF switch while the EFI bike switch is analog input to the ECU, in our case, a different resistance.

2. The switch is not altering the ignition curve as the KTM's but the injection.

3. Yes, the switch will not change the injection curve on-the-fly (god knows why they did it that way), but still I found it very valuable.

When using the OEM rotary switch the procedure is:
Stop-Stop the engine-Remove your gloves-remove the hard to reach rubber cup-rotate the switch to the right position, considering that you see the numbers and the arrow-replace the rubber cup-replace your gloves-start the engine.

When using the handlebar / flasher switch the procedure is:
Stop your engine (You could just pull the clutch and kill the engine while the bike still on the move)-flick the switch to the desire position-start your engine

I found the OEM switch so tedious to use that I actually didn't use it at all....

Hope it make everything clear.

Yoram
 
Issue has been checked with official USA Husaberg.

It's not real-on-the-fly but there is absolutely not off time.

So pull the clutch-kill the motor-move the switch-start the motor method, all on the move, will work just fine.

Yoram
 

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