What brand Steering damper fits and works best on the FE models? We ride alot of rock and I have a showroom of '08's on the way. Just wondering what to put on my demo and suggest to customers.
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Steering Damper?
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back in cottonwood, az
scotts is prolly the standard that most people shoot for, but as an ex wv hillbilly who has raced all over that state and surrounding area, and then moved to az, i can tell you you don't really ride on rocks. when i started riding out here, i rode without a damper, and then installed one on my 98 berg using the recommended settings. it wasn't effective until i had it cranked up to nearly max, then in the rare case when the trail wasn't rocky, it steered like a truck. on my 04 450, it makes more of a difference in the rocks and has saved my butt more than a few times. out here most of the rocks are at least the size of grapefruits and are rolling loose on the trail. back there, they generally stayed put.
when i bought mine, i talked my ex-partner into becoming a dealer just so i could get the paltry 15% discount. (not much markup on those babies).
i think it would be a plus to offer with the new ones, but i don't know if your area sees it as a necessary thing like they do out west.
when i bought mine, i talked my ex-partner into becoming a dealer just so i could get the paltry 15% discount. (not much markup on those babies).
i think it would be a plus to offer with the new ones, but i don't know if your area sees it as a necessary thing like they do out west.
ned37 said:
Your description above doesn't sound like it's describing the performance of a Scotts damper. The Scotts damper has a separate knob for both low and high speed damping. This feature, which is not found on most other brands, enables one to set the low speed damping at a relatively low level to aid steering in the twisties while the high speed damping remains at full force to dampen sudden jolts from rocks, roots, etc. Other dampers combine the low and high speed damping into one control knob therefore when the damping is reduced, both low speed and high speed damping are reduced at the same time thereby making the damper much less effective at absorbing high speed jolts.
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back in cottonwood, az
chas, on the trails we choose to ride in az, the low speed adjustment is the one we have to crank up most of the time. i'm not talking traditional desert riding, but more technical rocky stuff. without a fair amount of low speed damping, your arms take a beating. the trick is to find a happy medium so that the bike's turning ability isn't too compromised. its only about 10% of the time we get to appreciate the high speed damping (but those are the ones you tend to remember 8O )
i never used a damper when i raced back east (granted they weren't that popular(or was that "invented" :wink
then) and can only think of a few places where i would have needed one, but i'm sure that if the top riders in the series were using them, the rest of us would have them, too.
the biggest difference in the riding between the east and az riding is that back east, you can get into a rhythm on a trail without all the surprises from the constantly moving rocks. but i sure don't miss the snotty mud and roots 8) .
i never used a damper when i raced back east (granted they weren't that popular(or was that "invented" :wink
then) and can only think of a few places where i would have needed one, but i'm sure that if the top riders in the series were using them, the rest of us would have them, too. the biggest difference in the riding between the east and az riding is that back east, you can get into a rhythm on a trail without all the surprises from the constantly moving rocks. but i sure don't miss the snotty mud and roots 8) .
The Scotts-units is actually produced by Öhlins.
Produced in Sweden for the good old USA ha,ha
In my opinion by far the best product out there,
except maybe for the new Öhlins SD: http://www.ohlins.se/ms/sdmx.asp
peter
Produced in Sweden for the good old USA
ha,haIn my opinion by far the best product out there,
except maybe for the new Öhlins SD: http://www.ohlins.se/ms/sdmx.asp
peter
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australia
i was aware of the scotts / ohlins frendship ... that new ohlins damper had me reaching for the bankcard
The Scotts that I just brought (only a few rides old) is fantastic, just makes things feel more positive, the jury is still out over wether it helps in slippery hard clay terrain that we have in places here at the moment while its really wet (imagine concrete with a half inch of grease on it).
Azza.
Azza.
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Simi Valley Ca.
I have the scotts damper. I keep it at 6 clicks for nearly all off road use. Maybe 10 or 12 for deep sand or Hwy. It will go a lot stiffer but don't need it. 6 is basically my ticket. So much so that 4 can be felt as a difference and I like 6 better. I don't like it off either. I used to until I got the damper because it felt like it needed it at high speed.
pollo
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south east WA Australia
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south east WA Australia
was thinking an adjustable friction plate with some surgical rubber pulling back to centre would be pretty cheap but it might suck
if the top bearings in the steering head are the same between the KTM and the berg it should be easy to fit the ohlins Ill buy a plasma
http://ktmtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=305961
there was a thread a few months back on the orange pages about WER style steering dampers for not quite the right bike being made to fit ktms they were on sale for $128 somewhere in the US.
if the top bearings in the steering head are the same between the KTM and the berg it should be easy to fit the ohlins Ill buy a plasma
http://ktmtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=305961
there was a thread a few months back on the orange pages about WER style steering dampers for not quite the right bike being made to fit ktms they were on sale for $128 somewhere in the US.
umm everyone seems to have a scotts damper! i have had a gpr damper for about a year and find it very good! does the scotts one do something different??
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