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Seat comfort.

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Is it just me or do others suffer from Husabutt?
Any simple solutions to the narrow/hard seat? (mostly road use)
Not a problem offroad but sorely limits miles covered on backroads.
Your input warmly welcomed.
 
Hi , try buying a pair off those padded pants the push bike riders wear get the ones with thickest padding works for me ........colin
 
I just completed an 1100 mile, 4 day dual sport ride on my stock seated '09 FE450. I wore the Sugoi FX Chamois ($150 Can!) and used Penatene cream in the "high chaffe areas" and had no butt problems at all.

Here's a link for the Chamois:
http://www.sugoi.com/usa/eng/chamois

Jay
 
I hear ya bergbro, my seat foam is shagged after 60 hours. I can feel the seat frame digging into me when doing transport sections on sealed roads. Know any good upholsterers ?
 
Seats are an issue for me. Attached is a bit of a story about my Berg seat. I recently did something similar with my new to me DR650 seat, using an XT600 Yam seat from the wrecker which cost $25. Wider and softer, and a 50 mm boost. Had to take the cover to the upholsterer who sewed a strip around the edge of the stock cover for $20 and its all good too. I also used a cheap electric carving knife in addition to the tools shown in the attached doc which would now be my tool of preference for shaping the foam.

Steve
 

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I also recently did similar fix as steve, for my FX 450... my bad knees wont let me stand and pound the trails like i used to... so i bought a GUTS foam, soft, stock height, and took original seat cover off (pryed staples out carefully), removed stock foam carefully (in case i want to use again), and took seat base and new foam to local upholsterer... he charged me $40 bucks to glue new GUTS foam on, and re-staple stock cover over foam... after first ride, realized he used wrong staples, 3/8" instead of 1/4" that came stock (i slid to rear of seat, and got poked by them!)... I did some trial riding, then rode in a 2 hr harescramble... the GUTS foam was tooo soft! i wound up riding right on the plastic base after 30 mins. of being on the seat... no good... so I went home and figured i would do some experimenting.. I went to local paint and upholstery supply shop, and bought 3M adhesive in spray can ($15), went to Harbor Freight and bought air-powered staple gun ($28), went to ACE hardware, and bought 1/2" wide, 1/4" long staples to fit gun ($4), went to Walmart and bought Hamilton Beach electric carving knife ($18), and went home and got to work.. took cover off again, got black sharpie out, and proceeded to cut a 1" thick slice out of GUTS foam... removed rest and set it aside... spent an hour cleaning glue off plastic base, then squirted some 3M on base, and on stock foam, waited 5 mins to get it tacky, and put them together... after an hour or so, took sharpie and drew pattern on stock foam.. removed 5/8" in low part of saddle, and tapered to 0 at front and rear of seat... applied some 3M adhesive to stock foam, and to GUTS 1" sliver, and stuck together... put some weight on it, let is sit for awhile to adhere. Got an air-powered 4" disc sander (also available from Harbor), and proceeded to gently shape 1" addition, to make it closely match the shape of original seat, but leaving cross section slightly wider at top, to give my big butt more room to plant... got it to decent shape, sprayed some 3M on bottom outer edge of seat base, and began to work seat cover on from front first.... put a few staples in, and began stretching it, checking it for wrinkles, and pulling it around base, adding some staples now and then to keep it in place... at the end, it came out looking pretty good for home job, and I can now help friends do it as well!
Took it for a ride, spent a couple of hours on it, and the seat is amazing! stock foam is stiff, and prevents feeling plastic base, and GUTS foam is ultra soft, and very comfortable... did not get HusaButt on long trip!
 
Thank you all very much for your inputs.
The idea of correct underwear (chamois shorts) dont quiet fit the picture for me (its gunna be a bad look having to do a down trou in the middle of a ride so I can let my mates ride my bike in comfort)
I have rebuilt and recovered a few seats previous but always used original or aftermarket products to make life easy. foam density can be tricky stuff and i dont know enough to order the correct density to sort the seat (down side of living in the country)
The XPC seat looks to be a better shape, I was baulking at the price but in reality, the seat is a major part of the riding xperiance and the dollars spent there would give a lot greater seat of the pants benefit than a muffler i guess. (plus im not convinced that many people can use all the power in a 650 std) funny how priorities work.
 
I step cut my 2010 FE 570 seat because I'm short and it adds more sq. inch to sit on! This may NOT sound like a seat for comfort but I rode 270 miles, trails and dirt road in one day and do a lot of 100 mile plus trail rides in Idaho and the seat is great!
The cut form is thin but supportive, just before it rises to its stock height. I did screw up when cutting the form but the finished form shape works great. After marking the form with a black marker I used a very course hack saw blade about 10 or 12 teeth per inch to carefully cut the form, will I cut a little to deep and touched the seat base just as I started to turn up for the step, no big deal I took the cut form and cut a thin slice from the top part of the form and glued it in place, actually worked better doing it this way. I use a 40 and 80 grit sanding board to contour smooth and round the edges of the form to my liking.
Look at the width of the stock seat, it's narrow
The step cut seat is wider and when you sit in the step it is comfortable for a dirt bike, plus I'm 3/4" closer to the ground this helps. The width and the curve from the step equal more area for support of the buttocks. It works for me being short and 150 lbs. probably not the answer for you big guys but at least you can reach the ground!!
Have a great ride
 
More TimTams ,beer, fish & chips, get a fat bum and your seat is well padded :bounce3:
 
More TimTams ,beer, fish & chips, get a fat bum and your seat is well padded
I like the way you think eyspy, worth a crack.........
Dammit.... the beer went to my head, the foosh an chups passed straight through and the kid stole the timtams.
It was fun trying tho......
I think Haskel could be onto sumthing tho cos after an hour or so of twistie roads the seat feels more like a wedge.
A wider flatter top seems to be the answer but still maintaining the noarrowness around seat/tank junction for agility.

Cheers Bro.
 
Hey The seat on my 09 450 was butchered by the previous owner and it looked like a roller coaster so i lashed out and bought a guts racing medium foam and a gripper seat cover , with the help of a borrowed staple gun the job went well .Its now much more comfortable on my bony butt and it looks great.The gripper seat cover takes some getting used to ,very grippy .Guts sent the stuff pronto ,great service US to Aus in less than a week from order.
GWP
 
Don't forget to use glue. Buy some spray adhesive and use it on the seat pan where it faces the foam, and on the foam where it faces the cover. This prevents the foam and cover from bunching up or moving around.
 
BERGBRO said:
Is it just me or do others suffer from Husabutt?
Any simple solutions to the narrow/hard seat? (mostly road use)
Not a problem offroad but sorely limits miles covered on backroads.
Your input warmly welcomed.


A simple and BUTT ugly solution. Obviously not good for off-road, but for road transports...
http://www.cycle-analyst.com/sweetcheeks.htm

Put a MSR fuel bottle on each side wrapped in foam.

Regards
Fizz
 
drj2010 said:
hi buy a goldwing for on road use bergs are off road bikes
What you really mean is buy a goldwing to tow the trailer with the berg on.... but I dont ride busses buddy!
More importantly 'drjbro' Bergs go any bleedin where...... off the road, on the road, around the road or make there own bleedin road.
If they were not meant to be on the road they would not have lights, indicators, horn, speedo or a special little place for the number plate.........
The biggest limit to doing regular 300k days on backroads beaches and bush is the narrow seat. My CRF honda has a more comfy seat and it is off road only, (and yes I do stand up off road, but the cops got upset when I was seen standing on the pegs whilst still rocking along @ 110ks). strange as we do it off road all the time and the road is lots smoother and more predictable.
P.S. I already have a Honda for serious road miles.(CB1300).
 

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