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Rough running pulling my hair out

Joined Apr 2006
4 Posts | 0+
Sunny Devon in the UK
AAAAhhhrrr.
I have a road registered 03 plate, Husa 470 with standard Dello carb.
I have a massive problem with rough running. Under power the bike pulls like a nutter, but if I try to hold a regular speed at below half revs the bike will not hold a constant and feels like its miss firing or not fueling and if I pull the clutch in to stop or slow it cuts out. This is when the motor is hot for the first 10 minuets or so it’s ok.
The bike has been into a Husa dealer who tuned the carb and changed the flywheel which helped but hasn’t cured the main problem. I was told the 470 has the highest compression piston Husa make and I understand how and why this would make running a little more edgy.
Surely the bike should run and idle better than this. Common sense tells me it’s a fueling issue but the dealer seemed to think it may be electrical.
I haven’t ridden another same bike so can’t compare the problem. What I need to know is, can I expect the bike to run correctly on the road (as I’m thinking of supermoto set up) and if there is a fault, what is it?
I would massively appreciate any help.
Thanks Steve. :x
 
Properly tuned a healthy 470 should idle evenly around 1500 rpm and provide linear delivery from idle to WOT.

Such being said I offer a much needed upgrade package for the PHM40. Said package requires one to send the entire carburetor.
Cost is $150.00 US plus parts, S/H/I.

Kind Regards,
Dale

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Hi Dale
Thanx for the response, I will consider your offer if it comes to it. I can't help that think there must be more to the problem as the carb has been professionally tuned already.
It's good to know how the bike should be running which at least this means the problem is fixable.
Hopefully i'll get a few more responses.
Regards
Steve
 
dale,

what's the upgrade package? my 02 470 seems to run fine but i'm game for improving it. the return spring seems a little stiff also
 
i also had 02 470 loved the grunt of the engine best mod i did was to get hold of a kiehin fcr carb made the throtle response much smoother, well worth doing if your keeping the bike ,out on the trails the dellorto seemed ok but through traffic it allways felt rough hope this helps
regards steve
 
if all we are going to get is "dealer" advice all the time i wonder where UHE is heading 8O 8O . yep i know, i should bite my tongue but it looks like the moderators are so inept, the only thing they can do is chase me.

can i have my second warning please 'flanders'.

it's simple mate, your bike is running rich. drop the needle once. that should do it. if not report back with the symptoms.

good luck

Taffy
 
When the ignitions go south, the problem is usually worse as you increase the load i.e. when WFO. May just be very rich on the needle. What jetting is in the bike? Also, be certain the air bleeds aren't plugged with gooey filter oil.
dan
 
Taffy dear friend,

The PHM 40 modification of which I refer requires flow bench data and casting work.

One may certainly improve the carburetor via brass, however, best results to date have been achieved via said modifications.

Hope you are well Taffy.

Sincerely,
Dale

PS
You need a good spanking as opposed to a verbal warning. :lol: LOL
 
dale

in the UK and europe we have always had a different attitude to dealers or nowadays - as the line is a little blured -between profit making and volunteer.

we don't mix the two. they would be unwelcome. how many husaberg dealers are here from europe?

exactly!

takis isn't pushing anything and infact UHE is his time off.

this site is surely dedicated to the free transfer of information between people and not an advertising board for those wishing to find a forum in which they can sell stuff.

lord knows, you get enough free advertising from us all here. just the camshaft thread presently running is suffice to tell you that.

you know that you could help this bloke by explaining a bit more or giving him a cheap alternative. what a lot of people here don't know is that you KNEW what was wrong with his bike. so how about next time - as you usewd to do - giving the bloke two or three options and then he can make his own mind up?

why can't you get back to how things were about a year ago?

regards

Taffy
 
Hi Taffy,

I can't explain what modifications are necessary without flow testing the carburetor. Nor could I properly explain how to perform said modifications even if I knew via crystal ball what was indeed required.

I give a ton of free advice on a weekly basis and you are whining because I did not "take a guess" regarding this particular thread?

"I never give Dellorto tuning advice unless said carburetor is one I have modified" Such is not news and the reason is rooted in the fact that no two are alike.

I believe my actions are justified and your attitude in general to be a bit sour. In my opinion I simply offered a frustrated Husaberg owner an option should he truly need it.

UHE is indeed a give and take community. I truly believe I give far more than I take.

What say ye now old friend?

Dale
 
Ha Ha what have I started. First time on your forum and think I'll keep tuned in.
as for my Husabitch I've spoken to the dealer and he's going to take it back for a futher look, turns out he only took it round the yard for a quick test.
Also I spoke to the chap who had it before me and he tells me he added a supertrap to keep the end can noise down I imagine this could be an issue.
Dan, I made a note somewhere of all the carb parts, I'll post it up. The dealer had looked at these and seemed to think they were ok.

Sorry for the slow response, the bloke at work with the big stick keeps me away from home a few nights a week.

Regards Steve
 
SteveT said:
I've spoken to the dealer, turns out he only took it round the yard for a quick test.

I spoke to the chap who had it before me and he tells me he added a supertrap

Hi Steve,
Thank you for the follow up.

Such is why I refrain from tossing about tuning advice lest I am familiar with most the particulars. :wink:

Best of luck and please keep UHE posted as to your progress.

Sincerely,
Dale
 
How I deal with flow variations regarding "mail order tuning" of the Dellorto carburetor.

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Flow Bench

Dale
 
Up date on the rough running problem

The bike went back to the dealer who took a closer look turned out he had only tested the bike around the shop yard, my problem was starting after 30 minuets or so.

After breaking the head it was found that the piston was damaged and was replaced.
The stator was breaking down whilst hot so was also replaced.
All in all with a few other bits the repair cost me 750 of the finest in sterling.
The moral of the story seems to be - don't buy a bike from e-bay.
I don't think the engine was ever given the maintainance attention it needs, It had been thrashed and knocked out on the web!!

However, it is now running like a dream and after a recent closed circuit day out I more than glad I got it sorted.

Thanks for all your help, look forward to contributing when I can.

Steve
 

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