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Roker Arm and Follower Bearings Trouble (see images)

Joined Apr 2004
850 Posts | 1+
Murray Sunset, Australia
This is from my Berg which was purchased 14 months ago brand new. I have meticulously changed the oil and airfilter all the time as well as regular valve clearance checks performed by Dealer. No warnings and this is what has happened. I have done 3000kms on it so far. I am chasing up Husaberg Australia about this and will keep you all posted.

As you can see both the Arm is no good nor the inside of the follower bearings. I am looking at having to purchase 1 new arm and 2 new follower bearings.

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You may want to update now to all 03 rocker arm assemblies at this time. As you are probably aware of the 01-02 rockers are prone to failure and the 03 update is the cure.

Sorry for your misfortune.
 
Why does my dealer not know this I asked him about some sort of 03 update and he said there was none said the roller bearings etc are all the same code. I also took him the sheet Taffy has worked on earlier and he seem to think it was all a load of rubbish. I am unsure who to believe anymore. What am I to do?
 
I suspect that the 01-02 part numbers are superceded to the 03 part number anyway. I am pretty sure you must get the 03 complete assemblies though. That is you may not be able to put a 02 roller on a 03 arm or vice versa.

If your dealer doesn't have this information kindly tell him. I have an 01 470 with a lot of hours and no failure yet. I try not to rev it. Thats the key. Rev's take their toll.

Get both 03 assemblies and you should be in good shape. Easy on the RPM.
 
P.S.

You may want to add a Lineaweaver cam as it will help extend valve train life. If you ride on the street and rev it a lot one of his cam grinds should fit your riding style and help with wear & tear on those new rockers :wink:
 
I have the KTM numbers in my gallery for the updated rockers. They seem to be a little cheaper $$ from the KTM dealer. I imagine the cam is damaged as well, it might be a good idea to go with one of Dales cam grinds as stated.
 
Why would my cam be damaged?
Is there any way to check (will tell my dealer how to check it).
 
The cam is part of the equation in the problem. The severe "ramp up" as Dale calls it, of the stock cam, contributes to the pounding that the valve train takes. Dales cam smooths out the opening and closing of the valves.
B.O.S.S. (Bozarths Offroad Service Specialists) of this site puts 05 cams, cam sprocket and timing chains in the 01-03's.
 
husabutt said:
B.O.S.S. (Bozarths Offroad Service Specialists) of this site puts 05 cams, cam sprocket and timing chains in the 01-03's.

What does the 05 cam give you? Did they change the profile?
 
berger said:
I have the KTM numbers in my gallery for the updated rockers. They seem to be a little cheaper $$ from the KTM dealer. I imagine the cam is damaged as well, it might be a good idea to go with one of Dales cam grinds as stated.

The 04-05 rockers are different from the older bikes(At least one of them is). KTM's use the same rocker as the 04-05's.
 
PowerFiend said:
husabutt said:
B.O.S.S. (Bozarths Offroad Service Specialists) of this site puts 05 cams, cam sprocket and timing chains in the 01-03's.

What does the 05 cam give you? Did they change the profile?

Per Dale the 04 cam is considered a performance upgrade to the 01-03 motors. I don't know any specifics on the grind. I am merely regurgitating what I have read here. :puke:
 
Hi Factor,

I also have a 2000 FE401E. I replaced my OEM '55' cam at 224 hours, because the intake lobe became badly pitted.

I had replaced OEM cam follower bearings at intervals of 62.4 hrs, 67.9 hrs, and at another 91.1 hrs replaced the rocker arm assemblies with 2003 rocker arms. The 03 arms have a smaller axel for the roller bearing to ride on, permitting the use of larger diameter roller needles. They last much longer than the OEM design used up to 2003. The 2nd replacement at 67.9 hours was with Husquvarna am follower bearings, which had been noted as lasting longer.

The bike then ran another 99.3 hours with the 2003 rocker arms before I pulled the cam cover to check and found that the intake follower bearing had worn 0.1mm on the axel like your picture shows and also grooved the arm like yours pictured. I dressed the arm with a file, and put in a new roller assembly.

So, one might take this limited data to mean that the 03 (in my case) lasted 1 1/2 times as long as the original 2000 design.

You can use a less violent cam ramp design (like Dale's) to reduce the acceleration forces on the cam lobe and the cam follower bearing , but you will still have the very heavy spring forces due to the Husaberg conical spring design. The spring design is limited by the head and head cover design. If there was space available, or if you used a different spring material, like titanium, the spring could be redesigned to provide lower forces (using Dale's cam designs) and this would increase the time between replacement of the valve train components significantly.

Husaberg now puts titanium valves, different springs and valve guides in the 2005 450 FC and FS-C motors. I have no idea as to what the difference is in the spring rates or what the new springs are made of, I would guess titanium.

You can see pictures of my pitted cam lobes and worn cam follower bearing axle in my Gallery.



Regards,

Joe
 
husabutt said:
PowerFiend said:
husabutt said:
B.O.S.S. (Bozarths Offroad Service Specialists) of this site puts 05 cams, cam sprocket and timing chains in the 01-03's.

What does the 05 cam give you? Did they change the profile?

Per Dale the 04 cam is considered a performance upgrade to the 01-03 motors. I don't know any specifics on the grind. I am merely regurgitating what I have read here. :puke:

That cam in question is the 08 grind, which is the 03-up 650 cam. It has a milder ramp speed than the other Berg cams, but still not a grape shaped lobe. It is also probably to much cam for a 400, but I could be wrong.
 
Okay so I have a late issue 2003 FE 400. Do I have a better valve an rocker set or should I do something BEFORE I have a problem. I am a recreational rider and I still have yet to see 6th gear. I am big on preventive maintenance. All thoughts are welcome. BOSS if you are out there, what do you think. :?:

syl
 
Your bike has the rockers, double bearing counterbalancer, timing chain tensioner, steel cam sprocket, etc etc etc and many other updates to the 01 ad 02's that everybody seeks out. Ride and enjoy. No worries especially on a 400.
 
sueyoulater said:
Okay so I have a late issue 2003 FE 400. Do I have a better valve an rocker set or should I do something BEFORE I have a problem. I am a recreational rider and I still have yet to see 6th gear. I am big on preventive maintenance. All thoughts are welcome. BOSS if you are out there, what do you think. :?:

syl
Just check the timing chain after 100 hour.
 
Well Berg Australia gave me the parts at discount. Dealer charged me full labour. Replaced both rocker arms and roller bearings, decomp arm, decomp spring, decomp stop bolt, Cam bearings. I already have the steel cam sprocket. And the dealer seem to think the Cam Chain was ok.
 

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