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Riding in Sweden or Norway

Joined Aug 2005
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Northumberland UK
Myself and a couple of friends are thinking of going off road riding in Norway or Sweden. Are we wasting our time thinking of this as we don`t know the local laws. If it is possible to go trail riding over there are there any people out there who could give advice on laws and code of conduct. Or is it just a case of get a map and figure it out.

Bill
 
I do not know the conducts but it is strictly forbidden to go off-road without special permissions in Sweden. Small gravel roads you can probably find but when you leave them you breaking the laws.
 
mikst said:
I do not know the conducts but it is strictly forbidden to go off-road without special permissions in Sweden. Small gravel roads you can probably find but when you leave them you breaking the laws.
SwedishMode-ON
Men visst är det väl ok att köra stigar i skogen? Så länge man inte ger sig ut i "oanvänd terräng" så att säga är det väl ok? Rent lagmässigt alltså.

Sen om killarna kommer över från England borde de väl vara jäkligt nöjda med att kunna åka så mycket grusväg som vi har? Helt lagligt oxå.
Swedishmode-OFF

Just discussing if it really is illegal to ride trails that "is already there". Unused terrain is however undoubtedly illegal!!

Anyhow, just like mikst said, we have so many miles of gravel roads of different sizes and states so you probably won't be disappointed anyway.
 
Thanks for the replies Jocke D and Mikst.
I had heard that actually leaving the road was illegal, we were thinking of just using gravel tracks and forest roads.

I was on holiday in Sweden summer gone and did notice all the gravel roads and it got me thinking for a different holiday next year as Sweden and Norway are just a ferry trip from were I live.

Bill
 
Jocke_D said:
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Men visst är det väl ok att köra stigar i skogen? Så länge man inte ger sig ut i "oanvänd terräng" så att säga är det väl ok? Rent lagmässigt alltså.
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Om du äger marken och ska ut i skogen med din traktor för att arbeta är det inte förbjudet. Du får inte ens köra runt på din egen mark hur som helst. Man får i alla fall inte nöjesköra. Det borde även gälla skogsvägar och stigar. Jag kan ha fel men tyvärr tror jag inte det.
 
muckybill said:
Thanks for the replies Jocke D and Mikst.
I had heard that actually leaving the road was illegal, we were thinking of just using gravel tracks and forest roads.

I was on holiday in Sweden summer gone and did notice all the gravel roads and it got me thinking for a different holiday next year as Sweden and Norway are just a ferry trip from were I live.

Bill
No problem, we get paid for this by the tourist depertment up in Stockholm :lol:

I think you can probably ride around for a week without having to see asphal more than maybe crossing it in some places. Using the proper maps of course...


mikst said:
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Men visst är det väl ok att köra stigar i skogen? Så länge man inte ger sig ut i "oanvänd terräng" så att säga är det väl ok? Rent lagmässigt alltså.
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Om du äger marken och ska ut i skogen med din traktor för att arbeta är det inte förbjudet. Du får inte ens köra runt på din egen mark hur som helst. Man får i alla fall inte nöjesköra. Det borde även gälla skogsvägar och stigar. Jag kan ha fel men tyvärr tror jag inte det.
Jag tror oxå du har rätt tyvärr men frågan är vad som betraktas som väg och inte. Jag menar om det redan är en mindre väg / stor stig på ett ställe är det ok då eller måste vägen ha ett riksvägsnummer för att det ska vara 100% ok? Om man utgår från gröna kartan, kan man där se vad som är helt ok på vägars och stigars färger??
Äsch, strunt samma egentligen, kör man inte så man stör en och samma person hela tiden brukar det ju inte var några problem. Och polisen... tja, vad gör de...
 
LeFrog said:
No Swedish to English translation on Babel Fish... :cry:

Nothing interesting. :) We just agreed about that it is forbidden to go off-road without permission. You can go on gravel roads but not on paths, forest roads etc. But, if you go only once, who will catch you?

Riding in the forest, on the roots, will ruin the trees. If you go in the power line power it will not harm anyone. The power company owns the line and the ground under it but the former owner can use it but to what? There are often only bushes and scrubs but after some years there are trees as well. They are high and tight enough to be impossible to break trough. To do this you need to scout before you go.
 
Sounds awful, they are closing all the trails in Europe. In France they are currently trying to fight back the same type of order that will close down pretty much 90% of the trails system, which are very old for the most and have been open to pretty much everything. Germany has already fallen.
 
England is next. Democracy has failed and we are about to loose most of our rights of way :( But it will not stop some people :winking:

Bill
 
I used to like the greenies when they were taking on big corporations which have a huge impact on the environment, but these people are not exactly pro-people and pro-freedom.

The solution is: lobby. That's what the sportsmen did in France and it worked. Chirac told them vote for me and I'll protect your rights and it worked. Only difference is the numbers. Offroaders need to collaborate more and show up in force.
 
I have been lobbying but the people who want to take our rights away have also been lobbying and the politicians are are easily persuaded by lies and inacuracies.

But enough of this doom and gloom. This thread about riding bikes has turned into a political debate and I would rather talk bikes than politics.

There are still plenty of places to ride but I would rather find out from our friends in different countries what is ok and what is not. The last thing i want to do is go to a foreign country and spoil the riding for the locals by antisocial riding.

So roll on 2006 and maybe a bit of riding in Sweden or some equally scenic country.

Bill
 
Although there is always a movement to introduce off-road riding restrictions here in Canada,the politians understand that a very large number of its citizens own and operate either a ATV,snowmobile or off-road motorcycle.With this in mind it has generally been accepted that the operation and ownership of such vehicles has become a way of life here.
Govt energy is generally in the direction of education and inforcement of a very liberal set of restrictions by euro accounts.With little more than a handful of enforcement officers dedicated to an area approx 900 km long and 100 km wide(nova scotia)we enjoy at this time a high level of freedom........nsman
check out some of our rides on the Gallery at www.dualsport.ca
 
felt like i was riding in sweden today. we just ahd an unusually COLd cold front pass thru Northern California. Rode in the woods up about 5000 ft elevation today. Total mud ice over all the trails, left over standing rain water in ruts was frozen over thick. It was about 28F all morning, never realyy warmed up. Frozen tundra, frozen rocks, frozen mud.........kinda fun. I was dressed warm so it was ok..... slow going.
 
This Swedish law came into effect 1976 and its stupid now that mentality
have come across the atlantic, McGrath hade to defend him self in court
because he was riding on his own remote property in San Bernadino CO.
and County commissioner tryed to pass a law to make it illegal to ride/drive on your own property I think AMA and Blue ribbon coalition made them change their mind there are countys that is illegal to ride our
bike on our own property are you a member of AMA or Blue ribbon coalition. To are Swedish friends are the cops going to catch you unlikely
and if you are caught you are out inspecting trees for harvesting thats legal so the moral story stay vigilant against these ideas where ever they
may be in the world
VIKING
 
I don't think the thread is evolving badly. It's not political as in left vs right or should we have invaded Iraq, it's more us vs them, or how to protect our rights and make them understand where we're coming from.

I myself belong to the AMA and BRC and work with a group aiming at turning a non-officially open riding area where everything goes (I mean: everything) into a well organized OHV area, because that's what needs to be done.

I suggest you take part of an MC club and join your local organizations and learn to lobby and communicate. If you don't have time to meet, at least go to the cleanups and demonstrations.

Sometimes it's just amazing what people imagine we do with our dirt bikes. You have to educate them and explain that there are trails and that's what we ride on, that our hobby does not consist in cutting new trails left and ride and chasing Bambi and Thumper.
 
Common sense is what I use when I go trailriding in here in Sweden. I regularly use logging roads and trails made by forest harvesting machines. I can defend this any day, since the logging company already has done the damage and not me. The only thing I worry about is people picking berries and mushrooms. No joke. They show up out of nowhere. Beware of riding during hunting season as well. You won´t likely be mistaken for a moose, but hunters get really pissed off when you stir up the game... These activities take place in late summer/fall, so they can be avoided. Bring a cell phone and know your position. Coverage is excellent in most places, should you get yourself into trouble...
Of course, you could always contact one of our numerous MX/Enduro clubs for some completely legal riding on one of their approved enduro trails.
To sum this up, don´t sweat the details. If you want to ride in some remote part of our country then just go ahead and enjoy it. That´s what I do. I can´t speak for the rules and customs in Norway though. But I sure would like to ride there some day. Check out the Hardangervidda highlands!
 
I think we will study some maps and maybe ride from Kristiansand north and do a big loop into sweden then head back to Kristiansand and catch the ferry back home. The plan is to carry sleeping bags and cooking kit and use the cabins on the campsites or if the weather is ok sleep rough. I have used the campsites in both Norway and Sweden and never come across a bad one yet. I have ridden road bikes around scandinavia and always enjoyed the riding and scenery so it can only get better if we throw in some trail riding as well. So just got to persuade the other guys, they think I am crazy to start with but since I got my Berg they think I have got worse.

Bill
 

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